"One day the angels [a] came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan [b] also came with them. The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?"
Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it." (NIV Job 2:6-7)
My questionis if God s evil and cannot be in the presence of it, how could Satan be with God?
2007-09-24 09:44:12 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
The idea of the devil as an malevolent, evil figure developed over time. There was a concept in Judaism that stated that those who faithfully obeyed the laws of Torah would be blessed with a long life and many descendants, while those who disobeyed would lose divine favor, suffer misery and die young. Unfortunately this model was not proven in real life.
Some scholars questioned this assertion. They wrote books such as Ecclesiastes and Job, to challenge the conventional wisdom. In Job, Satan (the name means "tester") challenges God to prove that Job's devotion is not based on the favor he already enjoys. God actually grants Satan the power to ruin Job's life. Job complains mightily, yet does not abandon his loyalty to God, despite the conventional assumptions of his friends. But Satan disappears from the story once the misery is complete. It was never about him but about whether God is truly just. The author doesn't have a completely satisfying answer, just God telling Job he doesn't understand because he never saw God putting the universe together.
But because God is perfectly good, just and merciful, an answer to why there is evil in the world had to be found. The idea of an adversary, created good but gone bad, got God off the hook. So Satan was turned into the ultimate bad guy, defying God yet somehow serving God's will in the process. Consequently, an afterlife, including a paradise and a hell, also had to be developed to satisfy the requirements of justice unrealized in this life. This all happened long after Job was written.
2007-09-24 10:04:23 · answer #1 · answered by skepsis 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Sorry to say Malac that that was after Satan fall. You can see these days Satan can go to God. The Bible says that Satan accuses us day and night. Does call the Lord by phone? Not, he can go there. The realm where he lives is the air. But let me tell you that the church is going to sent the Devil down to the earth as you can see in Revelation 12. By that time Satan will not be able to go there.
2007-09-24 09:53:39 · answer #2 · answered by Nino 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
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2016-10-05 07:14:46 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
This is where applying a thought from one part of the bible and trying to apply it to another, where circumstances are different.
The bible says that Satan was to be thrown out of heaven during the Lord's Day, (Rev 12)
God sees and deals with wickedness everyday.
God does not have close and personal relationships with those who are wicked.
Just because Satan was dead spiritually at the time of Job, doesn't mean that God stopped talking to him.
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2007-09-24 09:54:47 · answer #4 · answered by TeeM 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
"if God s evil..."?? God is love and He is everywhere. He sees what is happening in hell as well as in Heaven and on earth and everywhere else in the universe.
Satan and his demons (all angels created by God) lived for some time in Heaven while they rebelled. Then God kicked them out and created hell for them to live in. So there was evil in Heaven for a short time. We have no idea the length of time. (There is no time to God.) God allowed Satan and the demons back to Heaven for a short meeting of the sorts and God still punished them and sent them back to hell. God is on earth, in our hearts, etc. We are all sinners. Sin is evil and God will still with us, around us, in our presence. But that doesn't mean He likes it. Does this make sense? Every person is a sinner. Some steal, some lie, some murder, etc. Some are non-believers, some are believers, some believe in another god. But God, our creator, is still present among us.
2007-09-24 09:53:13 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The book of Job is a Hebrew adaptation of an old oriental folktale. It does not attempt to explain the mystery of suffering or "justify the ways of God with men." The point of the story is to illustrate that God is not an impassive force (see the Greek sages), but He reveals himself to humans in a very personal way.
In the Hebrew Bible (the Old Testament), the Adversary is not the incarnation of evil, but one of the "sons of God" and a functionary of the heavenly court who accuses humans of wrong doing. (See Zechariah 3:1-10, and compare the First Book of Chronicles 21:1 with the Second Book of Samuel 24:1)
(Skepsis, the Hebrew "ha-satan" means "adversary", not "tester")
2007-09-24 10:21:06 · answer #6 · answered by Jonathan 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Devil is a mythological figure created by religious schools of thought.
God is both good and bad just like everybody else.
He's just the one at the top of the chain on the list of the simplest to the most superior life-form. The idea of dividing the power beyond into two, one good and one evil, has not always been that way throughout the history of humans.
If God is really 'all knowing', why would he even need to ask Satan "Where have you come from?" - Highly Illogical!
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2007-09-24 09:52:54 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
i think when the bible says light has no sharing with darkness or similar thoughts it doesnt mean physically. in other words satan could not have tricked, misled, or changed God's mind to be evil. but, satan could certainly be in gods presence. just as a righteous human could talk to an unrighteous one. however, truth is definite and can not be mixed with untruth.
2007-09-24 09:52:30 · answer #8 · answered by buddy 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God is certainly omnipresent and so He certainly is where evil is.
There is a lot we don't know about Satan and his standing with God, etc.
Heaven is a place where no evil exists - and at the recreation - the new heavens and the new earth - all evil will be destroyed.
god bless
2007-09-24 09:52:20 · answer #9 · answered by happy pilgrim 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God does not say he can,t be around satan,,satan just came up God did not invite him.
2007-09-24 09:53:41 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋