hows this for an anti-christian question?

Question

what if we were considered the "mess-up" of god's creations? like he made us and we were so messed up and unfixable that he just made another place. perhapps heaven is his better creation. and that angels are the better species. thats why the world has gone to hell because god has just forgot us. he knew aventually we would start wars with every person weve ever met and now the only thing keeping us from kill every life organism is the thought of us going to heaven. idk tell me what you guys think. could it be a possibility? or am i just letting my imagination run free?

Answer 1

God foreknew man would sin and had the answer before he created us. that answer was not another creation but a complete work in this creation through Jesus Christ our lord.

Answer 2

Your premise is flawed. Creation is not messed up. Instead we have messed up by rebelling against God and as a result we introduced sin and evil into the world.
Further, Heaven and the angels existed prior to creation and Hell was created for the fallen angels prior to creation. So your logic is off.
The real issue here is what will happen to you when you die. Will you go to heaven or hell?
Try this test.
Have you ever told a lie?
Have you ever stolen anything?
Have you ever blasphemed the Lord?
These are just three of the Ten Commandments, God's laws. If you answered yes to these God sees you as a liar, a thief and a blasphemer.
The bible says all liar, blasphemers will have their part in the lake of fire (revelation 21:8)
But you can avoid your punishment of Hell for the crimes (sins) you have committed against God.
Jesus had already paid your fine. To accept it you must repent (turn from your sins) and put your faith in Jesus Christ. Then read your bible daily so that you will know right from wrong.
Do not hesitate.

Answer 3

There is an element of truth in what you say. I would say that despite the fact that we human beings are messed up, God still loves us. He also loves His angels.

Suppose someone did a right thing because he or she wanted to go to heaven. Yes their motivation is not the goodness of the act, but it is done for a reward in the future.

Yet even that much requires a person to think about what they are doing and it causes them not to do a bad thing or it does cause them to do a good thing. They still have to examine both themselves and the nature of good and evil.

You make very excellent points, besides, what is wrong with just letting your imagination run free? That's what God designed imagination to do.

Answer 4

since you are using the GOD of Christianity, it seems only fair that the answer come from that doctrine.
First, God did not "mess up". he gave us free will and we messed up. we were created perfect and then an alter influence came forward out of heaven to corrupted us and turn us against GOD.
Second, Heaven was created before earth. and This is where the war started. Angels were also created first, and also have free will. One angel decided that he would like to become the most high, or GOD himself. and fully a third of the host of heaven followed him. They were cast out into the earth.
Third, GOD has not forgotten us, he has turned his back on us. He will get to us later. But in the mean time, he sent an emissary to call those willing back to him. He desires that we all come, but knows that will not happen. largely because Lucifer, the angel of light who was fallen and cast out, wanders to and fro about the earth to raise rebellion against GOD.
So unless you use the doctrine from which you model GOD, then yes you are letting your imagination run free.

Lots of thumbs down I'm sure, Atheists don't like answers from the source.

Answer 5

Well.. God created Heaven and the angels first. Then he wanted to make the human race. So he did, and he made us in his likeness. We have just as much free will as any of the angels. Satan (formerly Lucifer) was an angel, one of the highest angels, and he decided to go the opposite way of God. So, now he rules Hell, and currently has dominion over the Earth.

It is our duty, as Christians (if you are one), to let people know about God and what he has waiting (Heaven). Yes, you're right - Heaven is the better creation. But, that doesn't mean that God's left us or forgotten about us. He hasn't forgotten any of us... it's more we as a people that have forgotten Him.

There were wars in the Bible. God led people to war, because sometimes that is the only way. Killing people without just cause just because you are evil is wrong. But if you go to war in the name of the Lord, then He will forgive your actions. If you go to war for the betterment of mankind in His name, then God will not condemn you for doing so.

Hope this answers some of your questions... whether you believe/follow what I said or not... that's for you and your conscious.

God bless.

Answer 6

Then you are assuming there is a God. And if there is a God, than why assume he is incompetent? He created this all for us and put it under our dominion. That is why everything is so messed up. We are a bunch of messed up individuals. I'm sorry if you feel like your life is hell, but from where I sit, He is pretty decent to us all. We just tend to be a little too pessimistic and ungrateful. No, it is not a possibility because it is contrary to everything God says.

Answer 7

Seems like that's just a cop-out to justify (and allow) us to do whatever we want. Do you think people have to start wars "with every person weve ever met" or "kill every life organism"? We all have choices of what we are going to do and I don't think it's just that we're unfixable and can't control ourselves enough to not do these things.

Answer 8

The Bible says nothing of us being mess-ups, in fact, we are more important to God than the angels. God has cared about us and has known about us way before our birth. He made every detail of us perfect! Read Psalms 139:1-16

O LORD, you have searched me
and you know me.
2 You know when I sit and when I rise;
you perceive my thoughts from afar.

3 You discern my going out and my lying down;
you are familiar with all my ways.

4 Before a word is on my tongue
you know it completely, O LORD.

5 You hem me in—behind and before;
you have laid your hand upon me.

6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
too lofty for me to attain.

7 Where can I go from your Spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence?

8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
if I make my bed in the depths, [a] you are there.

9 If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
if I settle on the far side of the sea,

10 even there your hand will guide me,
your right hand will hold me fast.

11 If I say, "Surely the darkness will hide me
and the light become night around me,"

12 even the darkness will not be dark to you;
the night will shine like the day,
for darkness is as light to you.

13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother's womb.

14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.

15 My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place.
When I was woven together in the depths of the earth,

16 your eyes saw my unformed body.
All the days ordained for me
were written in your book
before one of them came to be.

I know that you're probably not interested in reading the whole thing, but its pretty much saying that God cares about us so much. He knows our every thought, and He worked on every detail. He created you perfectly.

And the world is not going to hell. God loves you!!! He wants to spend eternity with you, thats why He sent His one and only Son to die for YOU! Jesus Christ died on the cross, taking OUR sins with Him, so that whoever believes and has accepted the invitation, wanting to follow God is going to Heaven. All you have to do is admit that you are a sinner, and everyone is. And you must want to follow Jesus Christ, and repent of your sins. You must ask Jesus Christ to be your Lord and Saviour.

Heaven isn't His better creation, its the home we get to go to after leaving earth. God wants US to spend eternity with HIM in HEAVEN, because God loves US, even though we are sinners!!! Amazing!!!

I hope this helps you understand, any questions than you can just ask your local pastor. Have faith in Jesus Christ, He loves you so much, and He wants to be with you!!!!!

\o/ Praise God!!! \o/

Answer 9

I don't know what the first poster is trying to prove but it would seem they are misinterpreting the Bible.

As for creation, God created "man" in "His" own image. The truth is that we did "mess up" and that's why He gave His Son for our sins.

Angels are servants and never placed above God's children in value.

Answer 10

Okay, that's a creepy thought! If you believe in God, I wouldn't think negative like that. Just think positive.

Basically, no comment on that. I'm going to try and forget what I read.

POSITIVE

Answer 11

You're letting your imagination run free. Assuming their is a God, his qualities include being infallible and omniscient. Those big words effectively mean "he knows everything, including the future" and "he doesn't screw up". So He could not "mess-up" as you say.

But your hypothesis makes for a good B-rated movie storyline nonetheless.