Jesus never claimed Divinity? Is the mystery of the Deity hidden from some people?

Question

Luke 10:21-21 Jesus speaking, "I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things form the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes. Even so Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. All things have been delivered to Me by Father, and no one knows who the Son is EXCEPT THE FATHER, AND WHO THE FATHER IS EXCEPT THE SON, AND THE ONE TO WHOM THE SON WILL REVEAL HIM."

1. I and my Father are one is a bold statement for starters!
2. Before Abraham was I AM is also bold, why do you think they took up stones to kill Him? They said He was making Himself out to be God.
3. Phillip speaking says, "show us the Father", Jesus speaking, "Phillip have I not been so long with you that you do not know who I am?"
4. Why He give a different answer to the Pharasees when they wanted to know about the Father? Instead, He tells them, "YOU NEITHER KNOW ME NOR MY FATHER. Why is He talking about Himself when they simply wanted to know about the Father? Hmm?

Answer 1

The truth is revealed by God to those who love and seek the truth.

Mat. 16: 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?

36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?

37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.

38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.

When the blind man was given sight he could see the truth.

Answer 2

How does Jesus not know when He is to come, but the Father only?

This is because Jesus was using a wedding idiom or model. Notice the disciples did not question what Jesus was saying. They knew what Jewish weddings were like, and they understood completely what He was talking about.

You see, when a marriage is arranged in Jewish culture of that day, there is a betrothal. This betrothal is as binding as being already married. This is what our accepting Christ into our heart is, a betrothal. The bridegroom gives gifts of promise that he will return, which is what the Holy Spirit is for us. When the bridegroom leaves, he goes to prepare a small house built onto the side of his father's house where they will live. Jesus said, "I go and prepare a place for you." The bridegroom continues to build under the father's watchful eye. The bridegroom cannot stop until the father sees that everything is perfect and ready. Then the father says, "It is done, go get your bride." The bridegroom then rushes out, at a time unknown to everyone else, and comes in to "steal the bride away" to the marriage supper that is being prepared.

So you see, Jesus was speaking in a wedding idiom so that the disciples could picture what the marriage supper of the Lamb was going to be. A wedding between He and the New Jerusalem--the Bride.
http://schnebin.blogspot.com/2007/03/ancient-jewish-wedding-idiom.html

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

Do not look upon God as only limited to 4 dimensions. A tree is more than its trunk and branches, there are roots where you can not see that plunge beneath the surface of our reality. If we limit God to what we see or understand, we will miss the depth of who He is. Yes, Jesus was here on earth in the form of man, and yes, as a tree, He was cut down. But beneath the surface of our present reality is the glory of God Himself, and even He, as Messiah, was called "the Branch" which in Hebrew is the little sapling that pops up out of the trunk of a fallen tree.

Answer 3

I hope that even one person who has the question is seeking and may see.

Jesus also said this:
Matthew 12:8
"For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath."

which means he is God:
Exodus 20:11
"For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."

Answer 4

All nontrinitarians take the position that the doctrine of the earliest form of Christianity was not Trinitarian. Typically, nontrinitarians explain that Christianity was altered as a direct and indirect consequence of the edicts of Constantine the Great, which resulted in the eventual adoption of Trinitarian Christianity as the official religion of the Roman Empire. Because it was at this time of a dramatic shift in Christianity's status that the doctrine of the Trinity attained its definitive development, nontrinitarians typically find the doctrine questionable. It is in this light that the Nicene Creed is seen by nontrinitarians as an essentially political document, resulting from the subordination of true doctrine to State interests by the leaders of Catholic Church, so that the church became, in their view, an extension of the Roman Empire.

Although Nontrinitarian beliefs continued to multiply, and among some people (such as the Lombards in the West) it was dominant for hundreds of years afterward, the Trinitarians gained the immense power of the Roman Empire. Nontrinitarians typically argue that the primitive beliefs of the Christianity were systematically suppressed (often to the point of death), and that the historical record, perhaps also including the Scriptures of the New Testament, was altered as a consequence.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinitarianism


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Answer 5

THE FATHER is the Almighty God
The Son came to save us
He said in John 14:1
To believe in him and the father too

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Answer 6

The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God (cf. John 8:58, 10:38, 14:10; Col. 2:9). In John 5:18 we are told that Jesus’ opponents sought to kill him because he "called God his Father, making himself equal with God."

And yes, Jesus DID say he was God. In John 8:58, when quizzed about how he has special knowledge of Abraham, Jesus replies, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am"—invoking and applying to himself the personal name of God—"I Am" (Ex. 3:14). His audience understood exactly what he was claiming about himself. "So they took up stones to throw at him; but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple" (John 8:59).

In John 20:28, Thomas falls at Jesus’ feet, exclaiming, "My Lord and my God!" (Greek: Ho Kurios mou kai ho Theos mou—literally, "The Lord of me and the God of me!")

Philippians 2:6 says that Jesus "who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped" (New International Version). So Jesus chose to be born in humble, human form though he could have simply remained in equal glory with the Father for he was "in very nature God."

Also significant are passages that apply the title "the First and the Last" to Jesus (Rev. 1:17). This is one of the Old Testament titles of Yahweh: "Thus says Yahweh, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, Yahweh of armies: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; besides me there is no god’" (Is. 44:6; cf. 41:4, 48:12).

But did the early Christians believe this? YES! Here are some quotes:

Ignatius of Antioch: "Ignatius, also called Theophorus, to the Church at Ephesus in Asia . . . predestined from eternity for a glory that is lasting and unchanging, united and chosen through true suffering by the will of the Father in Jesus Christ our God" (Letter to the Ephesians 1 [A.D. 110]).

Aristides: "[Christians] are they who, above every people of the earth, have found the truth, for they acknowledge God, the Creator and maker of all things, in the only-begotten Son and in the Holy Spirit" (Apology 16 [A.D. 140]).

Clement of Alexandria: "The Word, then, the Christ, is the cause both of our ancient beginning—for he was in God—and of our well-being. And now this same Word has appeared as man. He alone is both God and man, and the source of all our good things" (Exhortation to the Greeks 1:7:1 [A.D. 190]).

Answer 7

Jesus said I and my father are 1 meaning they agree in all
thing,s..Jesus was with the Father before he came to earth,when he went back to Heaven Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to us to lead and guide us,,thus the Trinity,,God,Son,Holy Spirit.

Answer 8

It is hidden to all those that have rejected Him & the self conviction of the Holy Siprit which is blasphamy of the Holy Spirit, But God in His mercy continues to reach out to them. So they have no excuse. The Lord is sooo mercyful. Amen.

Answer 9

Jesus claimed to be God. I need to get back to this answer with a little bit more time.

Answer 10

All of these questions have been answered on this web site:

http://www.cambridgemuslims.info/Islam/CMD.htm