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I'm under the assumption that you're all to strive to be like Jesus, and to forgive people as he did, am I correct?

If not, what do you consider to be "christ-like"?

If so, shouldn't this mean that after you punish the first child, all the other children have to do to gain forgiveness of wrong-doing is apologize? After all, Jesus was punished for YOUR sins, so that you don't have to suffer the consequences of them if you ask for forgiveness, why can't you show the same to your children and others. Shouldn't you just forgive anyone of anything if they ask you? Shouldn't there be no consequence, just as there is no consequence for you?

2007-09-24 06:37:39 · 18 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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How much effort do you put into trying to be ignorant? I think you could use a break.

2007-09-24 06:42:14 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4 8

No, because there's a big difference between a sinning child and Christ. Christ committed no sin, but He was punished for others. (He was the "whipping boy" for us.) But the sinning child, when he is punished, is just getting what his bad behavior deserves. Any children that follow his example later and sin themselves likewise deserve individual punishment for each offense.
Forgiving someone is different than forgoing punishment. I can forgive Duncan for molesting and killing children, but he still needs to be punished in a temporal sense. If he asks God to forgive him, then there will be no eternal punishment for him. That doesn't mean, however, that there will be no temporal punishment, because human society has civil laws. If, in the rare case where temporal punishment is withheld when it is deserved, you have just received "mercy". God gives us mercy when He withholds the punishment that we deserve, which is a permanent, eternal death.

2007-09-24 13:50:02 · answer #2 · answered by FUNdie 7 · 0 1

That is not true, although that does seem to be what the 'born again' Christians believe. As a Catholic, I know that their is such a thing as Purgatory....where you do have to earn your way into heaven. Yes our sins are forgiven if you confess, AND REPENT....repent means to turn away from sin, to sin no more. Educate yourself a little more on your own, don't listen to wishy washy born again teachings, it's nonsensical and not the Whole Truth.

2007-09-24 14:05:41 · answer #3 · answered by marriedw/children 3 · 0 0

I think they will tell you that punsihment does not negate forgiveness, nor does forgiveness negate consequence. I mean, give the most heinous example I can think of: murderers. There are murderers who are in prison who have been forgiven by the families of their victims. This doesn't mean the victims' families ever want those murderers to see the light of day again, but that they don't hate them.

2007-09-24 13:54:28 · answer #4 · answered by ZombieTrix 2012 6 · 1 1

Check it out. Sin is an infinite transgression of the Law (Yahweh's commandments). Its wager is eternal death. So, therefore infinite transgression requires infinite justification.

In order to reconcile man back to the Father an infinite sacrifice had to be made. This sacrifice couldn't fall upon the shoulders of just anyone. It couldn't fall upon man. Man was breaking the commandments. He was in debt to them and unable to pay for the sins of all of us. It fell upon the only being capable of this.

The Son was perfect. God in the flesh. He's infinite justification and eternal. Man didn't create the world. God did. So the only one worthy of payment could be the only one greater than all of creation. Nothing done of a man could cover sin for all mankind.

If you steal or break something in a store that cost $2000 dollars and your net worth is only $400 dollars, how will you cover its expenses? You can't. Now, multiply that by the number of everyone to have walked the earth. Same principle in a far lesser magnitude. We are talking about something eternal. Life and death.

So you see, Confirmed, no one can cover the expenses (sins) for another. Not I for yours or you for mine. We are equal to ourselves only. We are in debt.

By faith in our in Savior we get a clean slate (remission) and can move forward as new men and women. And yes, we do forgive. How can we ask for something on behalf of ourselves that we ourselves deny to others? Peace be with you.

2007-09-24 14:15:58 · answer #5 · answered by F'sho 4 · 0 1

huh? we can be Christ like- but that does not make us the same as Christ. Being like someone = which I pray I am like Christ- does not mean the same as being the same as. I have 2 children- and discipline them both equally- because my oldest son cannot pay for the sins of my younger daughter. My son did not die to save my daughter- Jesus died to save us all- totally different- if we were the same as Christ- none of us would need salvation- because we are perfect. so being Christ-like is different then being the same. Does that help?

2007-09-24 14:24:26 · answer #6 · answered by AdoreHim 7 · 0 1

Ah, but there are still consequences for us. They may not be eternal consequences, but we still have to deal with the results of our actions while we're here. A murderer may be able to gain forgiveness from God, but they'll still have to spend the rest of their life in jail.

2007-09-24 13:48:46 · answer #7 · answered by ◦Delylah◦ 5 · 0 1

So basically what you are trying to be clever in saying, and failing miserably, is that if you want to look up to and be like someone you need to do everything that person did. It cant possibly mean that you try to emulate characteristics of a person you admire. It cant mean that you try to follow their examples in a way that relates to your life today.

Are you so perfect and so full of yourself that there is noone you look up to and try to aspire to be like? The second part of your question is just such a bad attempt at trying to mock someones belief it is almost sad. It is like when a person tries to call someone stupid and then spells the word stuped.

2007-09-24 13:53:31 · answer #8 · answered by cadisneygirl 7 · 0 1

Do you know God?

Do you seek him daily?

Who do you love?

Christians know what to do for their children and because of our obediance to the Father God keeps us and our children from generation to generation up to the third and forth.

We are lead by the spirit of God and that is what makes the difference the God head directs and he protects us.

It does not say that bad thing will not happen but God is faithful. What is your attitude? Matthew chapter 5.

Exodus chapter 34:6-12.God is compassionate.

2007-09-24 14:04:32 · answer #9 · answered by God is love. 6 · 0 1

There is consequences for everything you do. This is a basic and fundamental Bible teaching. That is the point of the Garden of Eden story to all mankind!

Yet I wonder if this kind of thinking explains why preacher's kids are so bad? LoL

2007-09-24 13:42:26 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

There are consequence,s for us if we sin after we know God
if we sin and die we go to Hell.we do not have a free pass.

2007-09-24 13:44:02 · answer #11 · answered by elaine 30705 7 · 1 1

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