Paul and the Bible.....what is going on?

Question

Where did this goofy liberal theology come up that somehow rejects the writings of St Paul as part of the Bible? If you reject the writings of Paul, then you reject the Bible. If you reject the Bible, then where are you getting your information about Christ? You people need to quit reading trashy liberal books that try to rewrite Christianity, and read the Bible through the eyes of faith a little more. This is a great reason why people should not take classes in religion at a mainstream university, because those people have no faith in the word of God.

Institutions of Higher Learning have systematically attacked Christianity and indoctrinated their minds-full-of-mush students into believing this garbage. Most attackers of the Bible come out of a post-christian cultural situation in which blaming Christiasnity for everything is acceptable and politically correct.

Any true Christians out there that see this?

Answer 1

Absolutely. As usual, O Crusading One, you have put it better than I could.

Answer 2

This is something I became aware of on discussion boards. There are many Christians -- i.e., followers of Christ -- who favor some parts of the Bible over others. (Oh, I knew that Mormons only accept "the parts of the Bible that are 'correctly translated.'"
Pauline exclusion is an interesting concept. Some feel that Paul was an interloper who manufactured his conversion on the road to Damascus, took the story of Jesus and used it to create a structured church.
Others take only the Gospels as "gospel." I've even met some who cherrypick those and spawn yet another new church from what they have concluded.
Since there are widely accepted Bibles that do not have the exact same list of books, this really should not be a surprise. The Catholic Bible for example includes books that others call Apocryphal. The Protestant Bible leaves them out.

Answer 3

Paul has written quite a bit in the New Testament and all Scripture is valid for teaching. Sounds like Luther's comments on the book of James, "an epistle of straw"; someone doesn't like the truth.

As for this comment: "Being a Catholic, you're supposed to get your "information about Christ" from the teachings of the Catholic Church, not the Bible. Catholic interpretation is very different, as you know. We don't take the Bible literally." Someone doesn't know Catholicism. Nothing in Catholic Doctrine contradicts the Bible and can be backed up by the Bible in its entirety. If a Catholic doesn't read the Bible, that is a personal decision. It is read to them if they attend the Mass. Catholics read the Bible in a literal sense, just not literalistic.

Oh, and that foolishness about Catholics not being "saved Christians" is just that. The Bible is a Catholic book, even the ones the protestants use. The Catholic Church was around hundreds of years before the Bible was completed. You should study the Doctrines before making such comments. The Truth might surprise you.

Answer 4

It's been going on for a long time! My pastor is now gone to the Lord, but he was a Philosophies of Education professor from Stanford University. He told stories about the teachers, when realizing how brilliant he was, couldn't understand why he would believe in a God! It confounded them.

But what you are seeing from me is a run off of what he taught. And since I have the Holy Spirit has been teaching me, I have things to say which are surprising even to me!

So there's the issue! Those in colleges and universities are expected to be against God because they are not understanding God's word because they don't have the Holy Spirit guiding them. They in many cases don't believe in any spirits to begin with. They don' even think that they have a spirit.

It doesn't make a difference how smart you might be. Without the Spirit of God you cannot understand what Paul wrote, you have no guidance as to how to weigh the scriptures, how to rightly divide the word of God; and it's that way with God's purpose in mind. God made it that way.

Answer 5

Yes and I agree with you.

Just in the past few months there was a huge debate in a certain Yahoo group about this, where one person was making the claim that the Apostle Paul was a false prophet and a fake disciple, etc.

I wondered why it took the moderators of the group several months to end the discussion.

I was one of only 2 people who called the person who was promoted this idea a false teacher.

This is one of many areas where Bible believing Christians from Roman Catholic and non Roman Catholic denominations should agree.

I wish Catholics and non Catholics spent more time discussing the areas of agreement and less time argueing about things where we don't agree.

Pastor Art

Answer 6

Yep, I agree faith is a great thing. I sure am glad the early Catholic church leaders changed the Bible to the point where Greed, avarice and ripping off the average human being and putting the money, gold and jewelry into their coffers made more sense than keeping it in the hands of the people who really need it.

Answer 7

Wow....take a breath sweetie.... do you feel better now?

As an answer to your question.... the teachings of the Apostle Paul when he addressed the congregation is very much important as what King Solomon , Moses, John, Job, Matthew etc, etc, and all the other 40 men inspired by God wrote in the Bible.

I hope that eases your mind.

Answer 8

Paul Newman and Paul Anka

Answer 9

The Following should lay to Rest any Notion that the Bible is Better Off " Without " Paul's Major Contribution...
"Suddenly he was startled by a heavenly light. “He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him: ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?’ He said: ‘Who are you, Lord?’ He said: ‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting.’” Still blinded by the light, Saul was led to Damascus. After three days a disciple named Ananias was directed to come to his aid. After being assured that this was the Lord’s will, Ananias told him: “Saul, brother, the Lord, the Jesus that appeared to you on the road over which you were coming, has sent me forth, in order that you may recover sight and be filled with holy spirit.” There was no doubt in Saul’s mind as to what he should do, for we read: “Immediately in the synagogues he began to preach Jesus, that this One is the Son of God.”—Acts 9:3-5, 17, 20.
Enough Said..

Answer 10

The Book of Revelation has this to say: 22:18-19.I warn everyone who listens to the statements of the prophecy In this book:If anyone shall add anything to them,God will add and lay upon him the plagues that are recorded and described In this book.
19:And If anyone cancels or takes away from the statements of the book of this prophecy.God will cancel and take away from him his share In the tree of life and In the city of holiness.Which are described and promised In this book.
This pretty much sums It up.

Answer 11

If you want to have a real discussion -- not a name calling contest -- about the validity of Paul's teachings, and how they relate to the original teachings of Christ, feel free to e-mail me.

And for the record, I've never taken a college class on Christianity. I've never read anything with a political or denominational slant to it regarding the translations or interpretations of The Bible.

Maybe you should open your eyes, and realize that you have the opportunity to have a real relationship with Christ himself and stop blindly swallowing whatever the Vatican hands down to you. You don't know a THING about the faith of other people.