We had our annual church picnic the other day. It was going good for a while. Then this guy Joe showed up. He's 3 years older than I am, went to high school with him. he's a "member" of our church, but never does anything. We do not like each other. He started problems with me and my 7 year old sister. I was the bigger man. I held my sister's hand and walked away. He pulled me on the shoulder and said don't turn away from him. I told him I want no problems and that to let go of me. Instead, he called me vulgar names and I tried to walk away. He grabbed me by the throat and started to choke me. I know some self-defense. I wasn't going to be choked out. I grabbed his pinkies, bent them backwards, and broke them. I then kneed him in the nuts and grabbed my sister and went to my parents. the members of our church are FURIOUS! I explained to them what I did was within MY right to safety. They said I should've waited for an "adult" to show up (i'm 20) and handle the situation.
2007-09-23 20:57:23 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Family & Relationships ➔ Friends
I told them I do karate and did exactly what I was taught from my instructors. Some people said if I use karate like that I shouldn’t be doing it. I have been told I would be kicked out of the church unless I ask God for forgiveness and apologize to Joe, (he’ll apologize to me as well) his family and the church. I am refusing to do so when I KNOW I did nothing wrong. I refuse to wait for an “adult” to handle the situation when someone has their hands around my throat, wanting to hurt me. I say he’s lucky I broke his pinkies. I honestly could’ve hit him on the ears and given his concussion if he was lucky. If not I would’ve blown out his eardrums. What do you think? Was I out of place and should I apologize to everyone? Or should I find a new church?
2007-09-23 20:57:44 · update #1
to answer Francine, I am NOT going to apologize for doing the thing best for me and my sister's safety. If the church has a problem, I just won't go. I live in the dorms 9 months out of the year anyways, so It doesn't matter as much. I only went home to pick up some stuff I forgot. And went to the picnic for free food. :)
2007-09-23 21:13:03 · update #2
Church is for the weak. Stop going. Even your congregation won't listen to you. Doesn't that speak volumes about the kinda people you hang with?
Don't apologize to the creep. If you see him again... tell him you'll break his arm the next time he tries that shiit on you.
Technically, if you know FORMAL karate, you shouldn't be using those moves.... you could go to jail if you really hurt him.
2007-09-23 21:13:59 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Wow. I don't think I've read a question like this one before.
You absolutely have a right to self defence - and you have a right to defend your sister. Personally I don't think you did anything wrong. But...
Churches can be very unbending. If your church is very important to you then you might have to suck it up and apologise. I believe in the Amish church you confess and apologise if an elder asks you to, even if you didn't commit the offence. It's the rules and it's about the community, not the individual.
You are an adult, and you acted responsibly. You tried to "turn the other cheek". Personally, if it was me, I'd be tempted to leave the church for not supporting me when I was telling the truth, but if the church means everything to you then you might need to play by their rules.
2007-09-24 04:08:09 · answer #2 · answered by Janey 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
You were within legal rights in this case to defend yourself, despite what church members say to the contrary; it's not easy to wait around for someone when you're being choked by someone.
Maintain and build upon what you already know about self defense. And it's OK if sis takes some karate classes, too.
2007-09-24 04:36:54 · answer #3 · answered by Mr. Wizard 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
20. You have a right to stand up for yourself,and not wait for a "adult; i thing you did a good thing who knows what he might have done next. the church group are over exaggerating about this situation. My Parents always tell me that if a guy does something like that to me, weather i know him or not, kick him in the balls and just do what ever i can to get away.
I dont know about moving churches. but remember that those other'adults' dont know the truth but GOD does. Doesnt matter what you do god wil be with you.
good luck
and god bless you
2007-09-24 04:13:41 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
well..first.. u're not all to blame.. but i guess u've jsut gotta pray hard. pray the God can help u in future to get in control..
of course it's lucky u didnt crack his head and stuff.. but it was kind harsh.. but hey, God forgives us. remember ?? one way to talk too is to ask Joe out. and make sure he listens to ur explaination on why u acted that way. and ask him too to give an explaination why he decided to call u vulgar names and all. but remember this time, DONT HURT HIM
talk to the guy. then both of u bring urselfs to God and pray together.. then go to the church pastor and tell him everything. Spend time to pray..
if the church kicks u out for such a reason, then maybe its time to move to a better and understanding and not narrow-minded church. God forgives us for all, ALL our sins, what more to say that they're just humans.. they've no right to just base on an incident to take such drastic actions. considering the fact that u've help and served the church.
pray about it. that's the best thing to do.
Good luck.
2007-09-24 04:08:10 · answer #5 · answered by princess 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Sounds to me like the last comment you added answered your own question. You know you're an adult, you acted in self-defense, and if the church members don't accept that, then you're not going back.
Personally, I think you did the right thing, and I hope you stick to you're guns. (Figuratively, speaking, of course). :-) You have nothing to apologize for, and I hope you don't let them convince you that you do.
Best of luck!
2007-09-24 04:22:40 · answer #6 · answered by Lee 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
haha U did well! U should have break one of his toes also ;) And 20 is an adult alrdy. Good luck with ur next church picnic ;)
2007-09-24 04:07:47 · answer #7 · answered by IDontThinkSo 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
i am with u .you r not a coward. let them thing on their own way.
2007-09-24 04:16:18 · answer #8 · answered by christopher123456 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋