Would you call this Homonegativity?

Question

I am not homophobic; I do not have any fear/hatred toward homosexuals, as I have many homosexual friends myself. However I do disagree with the whole homosexual lifestyle choice, due to moral and biological issues (not religious issues). Would you call this Homonegativity?

Oberon for da ben dan: I did not say you choose to be gay, I know everybody is born with their sexual orientation predetermined, however there is no evidence that the lifestyle you choose is genetic, as it solely relies on choice (i.e. the number of partners you have in a lifetime etc...).

believeinyou24: I'm not an atheist, but I do not believe that perceived religious morals are any more superior to personal morals. When I am talking in terms of biological issues, I'm talking about the transmission of AIDs and HIV, I'm not blaming it on homosexuals, but it's partly responsible to lack of protective sex and multiple partner relationships.

One of things I also disagree with is the "Agree with our lifestyle or your a homophobe", used by some homosexual communities to simply dismiss anybody who doesn’t agree with them.

So If I disagree with conservatives ideologies, then I should be called a "conservaphobe", who fears or holds hatred against conservatives.

You must recognise a difference between fear/hatred and disagreement. Not everybody share's the same opinion as you, but that doesn't mean that they fear or hate you.

I know the problem with stereotypes of the homosexual lifestyle, amd the one I disagree with is the stereotype.

I do not disagree with homosexuals, I just disagree with the stereotyped lifestyle, which has been proven to contribute to the AIDS epidemic, many promiscuous heterosexuals also contribute to this problem a great deal. All I'm saying is that the 'gay lifestyle' tends to be more orientated towards promiscuity than monogamous relationships.
Essentially I want everybody to find their own way to happiness, I might not always agree with these paths but in the end that doesn't matter.

Answer 1

My very dear Sir, are you including us Ladies in your grouping of Homo-negativity or is it just the Gentlemen. I've been in a Monogamous relationship for 27 years to the same Lady and yet by definition am still considered "Gay".
As for the so-called 'moral' connotations, I don't give a flying good damn about them. that's between God and I, not you and I.
I do agree about the disease; however the spread of HIV/AIDS is now spread not by mostly homosexuals but by heterosexuals. You may blame the relcusiveness of our churches and our government for not teaching the children about proper sexual contact and for providing condoms.
Please don't misconstrue my words but Homo-negativity is very close to Negativity itself and that leads to the closure of the mind.
I hope you remember to leave yours open.

Answer 2

(After reading your additional details.)

No, I would call it realistic. No person's actions are genetically set. I am in no way homophobic either, I have several GLBT friends (and am included in that category myself), I am also strongly in favor of gay rights.. But I know that actions are not predetermined. I have never seen anyone claim that they are. The only thing in this that people do NOT choose, are their preferences.

As far as genetics go, well that's an entirely different subject.. I simply do not believe that anything involving preference is inborn/genetic. That doesn't mean that people choose to be gay, straight, or whatever.. because they don't. Everyone has natural preferences, and no one deserves to be treated differently because of them.

One last thing, I'm not entirely sure what you're insinuating with the "amount of partners" thing. But no one is set to having a certain amount of partners just because of their sexualities. There are plenty of monogamous gay people, and very promiscuous straight people..

Answer 3

Really? You have gay friends and it isn't a religious thing -- but you call it a choice, which even serious non-gay scientists like Watson (a man who suggested the abortion of pre-born gay babies) would not do -- and then you say that your feelings are due to moral and biological issues, not religious ones.

1. Morality -- define that please -- I consider your position to be immoral, you consider mine to be immoral -- without religious backing what makes your position more moral than mine (for that matter, with religious backing what does ?-- my faith community supports complete equality for gays and lesbians -- so????)

2. Biological? Well considering that homosexuality, including exclusive homosexuality and pair bonding is found in hundreds of animal species (see Dr. Bruce Bagemihl; Biological Exuberance; St. Martin's Press) that is an incredibly weak reed to rest any argument on.

I strongly suggest rethinking your arguments. If you want to hate us - fine --- but don't pretend that its rational. It may not be religious for all I know -- perhaps you were raised an atheist and have no religious feelings whatsoever, and have arrived at this particular bucket of prejudice without any religious input, as you suggest; but it also is not rational.

Do I think its homonegativity? No, I think its prejudice -- old fashioned prejudice, masquerading as something more refined.

Have a good day.

Regards,

Reynolds
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PS Re: Your additional details -- of course how one lives out what one is is a matter of choice. That was not made clear in your initial post, was not there when I posted and I find it suspect. Being homosexual does not mean that you have 700 partners, some people do, likewise, one of my heterosexual friends has had over 1000 female partners... so??? My choice happens to be much more monogamous. My partner and I have been together nearly 16 years - - but I don't condemn others who do not choose monogamy. My comments stand.

Answer 4

When you say moral choice, are you talking about the promiscuous people who have a lot of partners and the people who don't practice safe sex? Because you know, not all gay people are like that. One of my friends, he's been in a monogamous relationship for years and he has yet to have sex with his boyfriend.
As for biological issues, duh there's gonna be a lot of gay people with AIDS if they insist on sticking it in every Paul, Jim, and Tom that walks their way. BUT, not all gay people are like this.

Answer 5

u dont have to agree with us....but u just to have to accept that no matter wat anyone does or say....there will always be gay/bi/trans ppl in the world.
i accept that there will always be ppl who hate or disagree with us....but w/e im just living my life....trying to be happy
i just cant stop and drown into a depression just to make other ppl happy.....
u also have to realize that....well
we r all the same meaning we r all sinners lol
i mean ppl kill animals
ppl pollute the air
everyone has at least one flaw that is consider a sin or wrong or unhealthy
........but ppl do it anyway
i honestly dont think loving and givivng somebody else affection of the same sex is wrong ...but ppl have different opninos so w/e .....all i want is happiness
i wish u the same
everybody derserves to be happy

Answer 6

I'm gay, and I'm tired of hearing about this "gay lifestyle."
In fact, I'm against some stereotypical elements of the "gay lifestyle" as well. All that being gay means is that you like men instead of women. (Or if you're a lesbian, women instead of men.) Nothing more.

Answer 7

no, i would just call you ignorant. there is no "choice" involved. By insisting that there is, you show an utter lack of respect for someone who is gay, not to mention your ignorance.

I dont buy this, I'm not homophobe and i have gay friends. bullshit. If you cannot even respect us as people or think of us on a level playing field as you (and based on what you wrote...you dont!) then you are a homephobe.