Why do the cons acuse Hillary of being a socialist & then say she reminds them of Hitler?

Question

Don't they realize they are contradicting themselves? Hitler was the opposite of a socialist. He was far right, not left. Bush & the GOP are actually more like Hitler & his regime.
"The Nazis gained power during Germany's period of crisis after World War I. They used propaganda and charismatic oratory, emphasizing nationalism, anti-Semitism, and anti-Communism. After restructuring the economy and rearming the military, a totalitarian dictatorship based around the Führer was established. Hitler pursued an aggressive foreign policy, with an ideological goal of Lebensraum (expanding living space for Germans). The German Invasion of Poland in 1939 triggered armed conflict between the British and French Empires (the Allies) and Germany."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
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infobrokermate: Pay attention, & answer the question. That was not the Q!

Ak23566: Hitler was the leader of the German workers socialist Party before he formed the Nazi Party who's ideology was totally against socialism. so stop being such a pompous English a*s & MYOB.

Answer 1

Although Hitler was the leader of the Natinal Socialist German Workers Party, it was not what you or I percive as socialists then or today. Read the following:

"The National Socialist German Workers Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (help·info), or NSDAP, commonly, the Nazi Party), was a political party in Germany between 1920 and 1945 that was known as the German Workers Party before the name was changed in 1920.

The party's leader, Adolf Hitler, was appointed Chancellor of Germany by president Paul von Hindenburg in 1933. After Hindenburg's death, Hitler rapidly established a totalitarian regime known as the Third Reich, under which the party gained almost unlimited power.

Nazi ideology stressed the racial purity of the German people and persecuted those it perceived either as enemies or Lebensunwertes Leben, that is "life unworthy of life". (This included Jews, Roma, Slavs and homosexuals, along with Jehovah's Witnesses, the mentally and/or physically disabled, socialists, and communists.) The practical application of these beliefs led directly to the deaths of approximately 11 million people in what has become known as the Holocaust. Additionally, the Nazi concept of Lebensraum ("living space"), and the pursuit of the creation of "Greater Germany" to achieve it, was one of the major causes of World War II, in which more than 60 million people died."

They were actually against socialists & communists among other things.

Therefore The Whiz is technically correct.

Answer 2

The Nazi party was a socialist party, it didn't mean "popular"!!! It is called the National Socialist German WORKERs' Party (notice the emphasis for workers'), which is socialism to the core. And prior to the "Night of the Long Knives", the Brown Shirts or SA (the paramilitary wing of the Nazi party) were growing weary of Hitler's devotion to the socialist cause. This is proven in any documentation from the time, hell, watch any documentary on Hitler's rise to power, or take the lazy way out and look it up on wikipedia. Hitler was actively involved in socialist policies. Of course he adopted an ultra nationalist and radical form of socialism; which many call Fascism, of course everyone argues on the similarities and differences between Hitler's Fascism and Mussolini's, but I digress. And on top of that, Hitler had the state take control of industry, which is what socialism is all about. You could make the case that Hitler himself wasn't truly a socialist, but that he simply used the socialist rhetoric to achieve power. But to say the National Socialist German Workers' Party wasn't a socialist party is either ill informed, or naive. Of course I doubt you're willing to research the subject further, and even if you did, you'd probably commit cognitive dissonance (i.e. facts that conflict with your preconceived beliefs and are therefore ignored). Edit: Hitler had a no aggression pact with the USSR before they betrayed them. But aside from that, the reason he hated the USSR, was he blamed them for Germany's poor economic/societal conditions after the WWI since they sided with the French and British during WWI. And he also hated the USSR because he viewed Russian Slavic people as a subhuman race. And the USSR also had a large Jewish population, which of course Hitler despised. The main reason Hitler spoke out against Communism, was because Russians were associated with Communism and therefore to attack Communism was to attack Russians, which was a way to get the German people to hate Russians. So to say that Hitler hated Russians, and Russians were Communists, and Communism is a form of Socialism, therefore Hitler hated all Russians, Communists and socialists; is not only a gross over simplification, but also a huge logical fallacy!

Answer 3

Actually, Hitler was the head of the Nationalist Socialist Party. Care to tell me what the second word in that party's name is? There were a TON of social programs for Germans, well, for Aryan Germans. The government provided homes for unwed mothers, the Hitler Youth was a social program, the list goes on. At the core, Hitler wanted the German people to follow him, and his programs would take care of all Germans. That's socialism.
Hillary has far too many social programs she is pushing. Way too many. While much of Europe is backing away from too much socialism, Hillary has a government program for everyone.

That being said, it is TOTALLY WRONG to say that Hillary reminds someone of Hitler. I don't know which conservatives you are talking to, but they are NOT representative of THIS conservative. Not even close. Last time I checked, Hillary didn't have a plan to kill off the Jew, Gypsies, homosexuals, and political dissidents. When she gets programs such as those, then it is a fair comparison.

Until then, the conservatives you are talking to are uneducated morons, not thinking conservatives.

I still can't believe that people think socialist is a dirty word. Government healthcare? "It Takes A Village"? As someone else brought up, "shared responsibility"? Oh, and not neighborhood shared responsibility, she's talking government.
If you don't want to be called a socialist, then quit asking for government programs that do things other than pave roads, provide police and fire protection, and protect against invasion. To an extent, public education is a social program. It has tremendous benefits, but it is a government social program. That's a social program I am for. Government health care? Not a fan of that.

Answer 4

The line between fascist and socialist is a thin one, both want to take away freedom and liberty of the people and desire for the government to control everything.

You are correct that Hitler was a fascist and not a socialist, which means that Hillary is still a socialist.

Answer 5

It is often silly to compare modern political groups the same due to the name. Republicans and Democrats are VERY different from the Republicans and Democrats of our own past history.

Hitler had many socialist goals. He also opposed Russia's expansion and felt the necessity to protest Europe from that, first by trying to convince all his neighbors to join him in the effort, finally by conquering them to gain the power to oppose the aggressive buildup in Asia.

All political groups use propaganda. That argument is silly.
SOME group ALWAYS gains power during periods of crisis. That argument is also silly.
Nationalism is always emphasized in times of crisis. That argument is also silly.
All politicians and leaders of all sorts try to use charisma. That argument is also silly.
Anti-Semitism is being used by our enemies, not us.
Anti-Communism is a reasonable act, considering they just took over Russia again and once in power simply dissolved the government. Documents released by the KGB confirmed almost all of McCarthy's concerns and claims (though his methods were atrocious). We really WERE infiltrated by Russian agents and Communist spies.
Fear of Communism in the face of that is realistic.
Aggressive foreign policy is not bad in itself.
We have no plan to live in Iraq, thank you.
Our allies have sided with us.

The one that hasn't has never really sided with us (France). They rolled over in WWII and worked with both sides.

Former First Lady and Senator Clinton has made her socialist goals very clear. This should make the rest of the story even clearer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_of_America

By the late 1960s the most powerful figures in the Socialist Party of America were Max Shachtman and Michael Harrington, who agreed upon a parallel strategy of maintaining the Socialist Party as an independent third party that fielded its own candidates, and acting as a pressure group within the Democratic Party. The party itself had become divided into three caucuses. One was the Debs Caucus led by David McReynolds, which wanted to pursue the traditional position of the Socialist Party as an independent political party and held the most strongly "leftist" position within the group. Another was the "centrist" Coalition Caucus led by Michael Harrington, which also had a leftist orientation, but wanted to work within the Democratic Party to pull it to the left. Finally, the "rightist" Unity Caucus led by Max Shachtman were strong supporters of the Lyndon Johnson/"Scoop" Jackson wing of the Democratic Party that supported hawkish anti-Communism abroad and civil rights and the Great Society program domestically.[4] [5]

I am a democrat. I am NOT a socialist. First and foremost, I am a patriot.

Answer 6

Hitler was a Nazi which is an acronym for The National Socialist German Workers Party or Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. This seems to make him a socialist. Hillary on the other hand is a definite socialist bend on finishing Bill's legacy of ruining this country .

Answer 7

Your question was.....Why do the cons acuse Hillary of being a socialist & then say she reminds them of Hitler? Your question ended at the question mark.

There is absolutely no inconsistency in the GOP position. Hitler was leader of the National Socialist Party. His party followed a domestic agenda of pre-keynsian economic expansion, nationalisation and state provision. All of which are consistent with Ms Rodham-Clinton's programme.

The first poster did in fact answer your queston correctly. The fact that you did not like the answer does not give you the right to patronise him in your added comment.

Answer 8

Hitler was a Nazi. Which was the National Socialist Party in Germany

Answer 9

This is one of the funnier questions I've read today. First off the Nazis were very, very socialist, the second word of their party's name is socialist, what more do you want?
Now Hillary, in supporting universal healthcare and stricter gun control is pushing to very socialist ideas. This is the reason behind her being labeled a socialist. Does this make her as bad as Stalin or Castro or Chavez? No it doesn't but it still means she is a socialist.

Answer 10

You're ranting, and Bush is not even remotely similar to Hitler, and your comparison is completely ridiculous. The aggressive foreign policy of Hitler wasn't initiated by a military styled terrorist attack by Islamic murderers against his nation...that killed over 3000 of his civilian citizens.

Hillary is a Socialist, and I don't recall anyone comparing her to Hitler, but it is certainly possible. Some may call her Hitlery, as a play on her name, but otherwise, it's just that. The idiotic comparisons that the Left makes regarding Bush to Hitler however is nothing short of belligerent and ignorant hate-mongering due to an "irrational" and even "insane" hatred of our President.

That there is a clear double standard when it comes to the Leftist candidates...they can say anything derogatory about Republicans, Conservatives and Libertarians, and even themselves, but anyone who points an observational arsenal back at them is labeled a right wing fanatic.

Recognize the reality of it.