Why are so many against the health care bill?

Question

I don't get this. How can so many people out there be so against the SCHIP bill? That bill that you want gone provides health care for my family. No I'm not on Medicare, I am paying lower premiums through the SCHIP system to ensure my children are taken care of.
Am I a lazy citizen, or an illegal? No! I am a VETERAN of the US ARMY!!!!! My husband and I both served our country, to include a tour in Iraq with the 4ID. We made the choice to ETS after serving to provide more for our 2 children. We then struggled to get through college taking out all loans possible in order to ensure a better life. Now, being a college graduate, my husband is starting associate at an Accounting firm. Yes, in a few years we can afford our own health care, but at $500 a month for premiums not including the 4K deductable and services not paid for, we can't afford health care through his company, and rely on this bill to help us. Maybe you are able to pay for yours, but did you serve you country before kids?

Thanks for the reality check! I only have 1 vehicle, no cell phone, no cable, no eating out, no new toys or clothes for the kids (cheap yard sales), no alcohol, no cigarettes, did I miss anything. We have $30 internet connection so I guess if we take that away too we can afford our premiums. You being military should know the hardship of getting out and starting all over.

Answer 1

The present costs of health care are due to the removal of competitive factors in the system. HMOs and other ways of forcing health care on people and employers make such businesses SURE of getting their money and reduce competition.

Lack of competition is why your costs are so high.

More socialized medicine will do that even more, but the cost will be transfered to the government, which means that the following will occur:

Increased taxes.
Homeowners pay more.
Apartment owners pay more.

They pass these costs onto the dwellers.
Every citizen raises their prices to cover the extra taxes and extra rent.

Prices are spread evenly throughout society but the cost of doing so, the logistics of every increase means they average UP, not down. Every bill is padded a bit.

Every time you "disguise" the cost of a government program into "we'll pay for you" you end up paying even more in other ways.

Once the price gets too high, the government starts nationalizing businesses.

That's socialism, again.

They will also try to force the rich to pay more of the tax burden, and more, and more, with "rich" being defined as the top 10% or so.

After the top 10% has been weeded down because they don't like being ripped off, after they leave, eventually that 10% is defined as "you" and "me".

That's socialism, again.

When we rebel, we are culled, as dissidents.

That's socialism, again.

No socialism, please.

Put competition BACK into the health care system and this problem will go away.

Answer 2

First of all, I don't think you are going to get many actual responses from conservatives, because, basically, most of them don't even know how to use a computer properly... Secondly, this is how the system works, people in the government are financed by insurance companies, so, banning the "pre-existing medical condition technique" will make them loose thousands of dollars, and they get much more money from insurance companies than they would have to spend if they had to have 10 heart transplants on a row... Now, people that aren't in the government but support the republican party would only benefited by this new bill, thing is, most of this people do not question the motives of their party of opposing something, mostly because that's how they've been thought, not to question what they believe in, which in essence seems like a beautiful idea, but highly unpractical. So the only reason someone who's not getting any profit from the current health care laws will only be benefited with the new bill, but their believes may make them turn against it. If you're still in doubt of their motives, tune in for Bill O'Riley to see what his thoughts are, but don't expect any coherency though...

Answer 3

Good for you, I'm a veteran too. So you think paying for peoples health care that make over 80 grand a year is okay? I think it is socialism and will fight it every step of the way. You should know better than to go down this road. You know what government run hospitals are like. You need to make some adjustments in your budget and you'll be fine. You could afford college so now you can afford health care. How many cars do you own? How many TVs, how many times a week do you eat out? How much do you spend for toys for your kids, got cable? What kind of Internet connection do you have. You get the jest of where I am going. I served, so I wouldn't have the the tax burden of a socialist and I can guarantee you, that no matter how much your husband makes, you will spend up to that limit and not be able to afford health care.

Answer 4

Your question sort of answers itself.

Health care is just very expensive and getting a new source of revenue to pay for it is a hard sell.

The standard I use for illustration is the total premium for the Blue Cross Standard plan available for federal employees. You can figure that health insurance in the private sector won't be too much different. For 2008, the full premium for the family plan is $771.29 per month (With the government, employees pay 25% of that.) On an annual basis the full cost of the insurance works out to $4.45 per hour which means a federal employee taking this insurance costs the government $3.33 per hour more than an employee who has no health insurance at all. This is in addition to deductibles and co-payments.

How many small employers or employers in low wage industries are prepared to take on this much extra cost?

Answer 5

It is the bill that people are against, not the program itself. The bill is filled with pork. The Democrats are trying to put it through because they KNOW Bush will veto it - proving that Bush doesn't "care about the little children." He has already said that if they would just do a renewal of the plan, he would sign it.

Answer 6

The conservatives are working for you to get private health care, where you make the choice.
The liberals are trying to take private health care away from my family and remove my choice.

You should read the bill. It is wrong to take health care away from my family so someone else can have it

The system needs to be fixed. Government is the one that screwed it up. You pay to much for health care because of current laws.

Answer 7

So many bills going thru, which one is this? As vets you should IMHO be covered like tricare for life, but then the bums wouldn't get covered and we all know the politicians love the bums for some reason.

As for me, retired with over 20 years, pony up for the tricare prime, all the kids are grown up, now if they would just move out.

HAHAHA

Answer 8

doesn't it make you proud to have served your country to have to listen to the lame answers that you have rec'd? i truly feel for you and am sorry that you have to suffer the way that you do.

thank you for your service. education and health care are my pet peeves for this country. how can we meddle in other country's business, when we can't provide for our own.

i listen to cons complain about providing care for abusers. this however is ridiculous. they are sad. god bless you.

lillian, if a lib posted that answer, cons would say that you were trying to run their lives. just who or what are you? sounds like an officer remf to me.

disabled army vet 66-73

Answer 9

Good thing your husband and you have good paying jobs to help pay for the 100 other people in your health care circle who can't afford to pay for the benefits they will be receiving!!!

Answer 10

Because it's beyond the government's legitimate, constitutional power to provide socialized health care.