If Jesus really is some immortal god/man or whatever, he would be coming back for the JEWS, not the Christians or Muslims. He was born a Jew, lived as a Jew, died a Jew, and if he could come back he would come back as a JEW. How are the Christians going to deal with NOT being his chosen? IN THE BIBLE he said that he came for God's lost sheep, the lost children of ISRAEL. The idea of "Christianity" wasn't thought up until after his death.
2007-09-21 15:06:55 · 31 answers · asked by Enigma®Ragnarökin' 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Cee T: As a matter of fact, yes. That is why I completely dismiss anything written after 77CE. Which includes at least 2 of the "gospels" and revelations.
2007-09-21 15:18:36 · update #1
I wonder how many of the "you need to read the bible"ers have ever read the Tanakh? Or the Koran? Or for that matter, the Bible! They sure dont' know what it says, and keep proving it.
2007-09-21 15:23:07 · update #2
Sailcat64: Argh matey, might this ol' bluebeard be droppin by for a taste of your ale?
Ramen!
2007-09-21 15:27:59 · update #3
Jesus was a profit of god so was Mo hammed and they were divinely inspired to write for god....So was I if Jesus comes back he will take my followers....Unfortunately though I kind of believe that Jesus never actually existed as a person, only as a legend....Fact....Pontius Pilate kept great records of his executions.....Fact Jesus was not one of them.
Nut Job=Me
Read my divine inspirations, in the form of questions, to find the answers (Kinda a jeopardy for the soul)
;o}
2007-09-21 15:17:38 · answer #1 · answered by klover_dso 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Too much to explain to even touch this but i will say only this much, Jesus is not the messiah! Yahushua was His name and still is. He is coming for the House of Israel and Judah, not the Jews. The Jews reject Him. Only the whole house (12 tribes) will be redeemed and they are scattered all over the world as a fulfillment of the end of Daniel 12. the Jews make up only the tribe of Judah and some Benjamin. The nation of Israel today (in the actual land0 is not the house of Israel. We are right where Abba wants us, yelling awake arise and lets go to Mount Zion to Yahweh our El. When Yahushua comes, I will be awake I hope and watching while being used by Him to help awaken those He has chosen.
2007-09-21 16:36:33 · answer #2 · answered by poohrona 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'm not sure if you're being serious or confrontational, but I'll explain anyway.
First, the Jews of today simply deny Jesus. Consider the words of Jesus...
Matthew 8:11-12 "And I say to you [the people], that many shall come from east and west, and recline at the table with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven;
12 but the sons of the kingdom [the Jews] shall be cast out into the outer darkness; in that place there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. "
The second thing is the way in which He is coming back. Jesus is not coming back by being born. He is coming in the clouds that all the world will see.
Mark 13:26 "And then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN CLOUDS with great power and glory.
Revelation 1:7 BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him [the Jews]; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. Even so. Amen.
He is coming back for judgment of the Earth. So if you have not repented and do not trust in Him, then He is coming back in judgment of you as well, and the bible promises that if your name is not written in the Lamb's Book of Life, your end will be the eternal lake of fire. Make sure you are right with Jesus today!
2007-09-21 15:20:09 · answer #3 · answered by dooltaz 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Well obviously the idea of Christianity didn't come about till after He died, seeing as his death and ressurrection is the entire focus of Christianity.
Just looking in the gospels, you can see that Jesus was not coming for only the Jews, but rather that He was coming for the Jews first and then for the Gentiles. In Matt. 15:21-28, there is the narrative of the Gentile woman who is healed by Jesus because of her great faith; Jesus tells her that it's not fit for him to heal her, because his mission is for the Jews, by comparing the Jews to His children and Gentiles to dogs. She responds that even the dogs get to eat the crumbs of the children's dinner. Jesus agrees, and heals her, indicating that salvation is not only for the Jews. In fact, this seems to be the entire reason this particular narrative was included in Matthew.
Matt. 8:5-13 is even more convincing of this fact. In this narrative, Jesus, speaking to a Gentile centuruion, says that He had not found any Jew with as much faith as him. He then fulfills the Gentile's request for healing.
It should also be noted that Matthew is the gospel traditionally considered to be addressed to Jews, making these two narratives even more convincing by their conspicuousness.
And, of course, pretty much all of the Pauline epistles are very clear on the whole Gentile salvation thing.
2007-09-21 15:33:50 · answer #4 · answered by tutler 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
First, we know what is going to happen when Jesus returns at the end times. It is described in the bible.
It is clear that you need to spend more time understanding what is written. It would be helpful for you to cite the verses you quoting. For example, there are two covenants: One with Jacob (Israel) and his descendants and one with the rest of us.
Jesus is a Jew, a rabbi, the Jewish Messiah, and King of the Jews are depicted in the four accounts (Matthew, Mark, Luke including Acts, and John.)
Christianity is not an academic ideal but a belief. When you said it was stated after his death, was that before or after his resurrection.
Answer: He who lives in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
2007-09-21 15:21:54 · answer #5 · answered by J. 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
When Jesus does come back, and it could be very very soon, he's coming back for all those people who have accepted him as Savior....Jesus came to seek and save that which was lost. Reading a question such as this, I feel you harbor alot of hatred towards God - why- if what you say he doesn't even exist - why go thru all the emotional trouble - of declaring all the false teaching of the bible, when, the truth is, deep within the heart of everyone, is the knowledge that there is a God - and that his Son, Jesus Christ , loves everyone, so much that he does not want a single person to perish forever in hell when they reject his free offer. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved.
2007-09-21 15:21:05 · answer #6 · answered by faceeternity 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Exactly.
Funny how a Jewish messiah cult that's just trying to get more converts (and money) ends up becoming the dominant religions of the gentiles.
If some people who say they are Christians spent some time studying the history of their own religion, they might see that there was a massive debate between the early Christians over whether or not to keep to the social aspects of Judaism or not.
As it turns out, the gentile sect had more swords.
2007-09-21 15:17:38 · answer #7 · answered by Reverend Ludd A.A.A.A.A.A. 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
it might want to be like an commercial on television that would want to be thrilling before everything, besides the undeniable fact that the extra they play it, the extra stressful it receives till human beings do not even favor to attempt the product anymore. To a non-believer, the Christian message is in worry-free words one among infinite others that they are bombarded with on a daily basis. protecting in ideas that the Christian message makes the stunning declare that a guy who lived 2000 years in the past gave all of us eternal existence (in the adventure that they believe the tale), human beings certainly record it away lower than the 'stunning claims' class alongside the showering liquid that eliminates 'any stain' and the conspiracy and alien deliver memories we analyze. even as the tale is repeated, both advantageous reinforcement or adverse reinforcement will ensue.
2016-10-20 02:27:31 · answer #8 · answered by carrilo 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Bible tells us what is going to happen when Jesus returns. Jesus will return with thousands of angels, surrounded with clouds, the dead in Christ will rise first, then we which are alive will be caught up together with them, and will all meet him in the air.
At that time when Jesus will return, there will be only two classes of people: those who have accepted Jesus as their Savior, and those who have rejected him. There will be no denominational differences, no Jew or Gentile. It doesn't matter when or where the followers of "the way" were called Christians. It's what they believed about Jesus Christ that set them apart, and that's what sets apart his followers today..... and it will decide where you spend eternity.
2007-09-21 15:22:46 · answer #9 · answered by transplanted_fireweed 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
He cast the jews off as his people a long time ago. Those are spiritual jews.
romans 2:28 But he is a jew that is one on the inside.
Matthew 21:43 this is why I say to you , the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing its fruits.
When they rejecte jesus he rejected them as his people.
Acts 15:14 how God for the first time turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name.
2007-09-21 15:21:18 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
I can only tell you what I believe. I believe the Bible to be the inspired word of God and He tells us in His word what will happen when Jesus comes back.The New Testament has much scripture on Jesus return. I would suggest you read 1st and 2nd Thesslonians and the book of Revelation.
2007-09-21 15:46:02 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋