who weren't caught and lived free on earth and will serve the same faith as you even though you live a "decent" life .
you believe their is no afterlife so you face the same fate as hitler, bin laden ,etc....or you at peace with this?
2007-09-21 13:23:27 · 44 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
"stlcardfan" its a typo its the internet get over it and get a life...
2007-09-21 13:32:06 · update #1
Most of you didn't understand, it was from your standpoint that you face the same fate as them (to not exist)
Fact being their punishment is as great as yours
2007-09-21 13:39:06 · update #2
Yes, I am. It's the same fate all humans will share. I will also share it with Pope John-Paul II, with Ghandi, with Yshua bar-Ysef (the one Christians call 'Jesus'), with Aristotle and Socrates.
Before I was born, I did not exist. After I die, I will not exist. It's perfectly symetrical.
Welcome to being human.
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Punishment?
How is not existing a punishment? If I don't exist to suffer, then it's hardly a punishment. You, me, Hitler, Ghandi, Mother Theresa, all will experience exactly the same thing after death -- oblivion.
How's that a punishment?
2007-09-21 13:27:17 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 13⤊ 2⤋
In my humble opinion, I think there is a very simple answer. Whether these men were atheist or christian is beside the point. And the point is that these men did not believe in anything but themselves. They were concerned with their well-being before the well-being of anyone else. The fact that they may have been atheist does not matter at all. Has there never been a Christian person that has committed murder? Religion usually does not have a grand impact on whether a person will commit a crime or not. Sure it teaches the basic values of human society, but so does Barney. The Bible is simply another means of transferring human morals. Hitler and Stalin were not evil because they were not religious. They were sociopaths. They were selfish and heartless. Religion has nothing to do with it. Japan (the most atheistic nation in the G-8) has the lowest murder rate, while the United States (the most Christian nation in the G-8) has the highest murder rate. I can also see why you would not want an atheist in the government. But my question for you is this: If he (or she) is a respectable and intelligent leader, who cares if he has a bible on his bed stand or not? Jeffrey Dahmer was babtized, perhaps he should have run for governor.
2016-05-20 05:46:00 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Are you saying that Hitler died "unsaved" (because he committed suicide) and that I should feel somehow short changed because when I die, I'll really be dead -- just like every other dead person. I suspect I don't really understand the meaning of what you are asking.
Let me say this. Death is a great equalizer. Everybody who is dead will be sharing the same oblivion -- nobody is ever aware of anything. It'll be like before you were born. Remember? Whether a person lives as a King or a lowly beggar, their death will be exactly like everybody else's. ...a big nothing. Yes, I'm comfortable with this. It's how reality actually operates. I cannot accept that what one believes in life can have any effect on the subjective quality of their death. Once your metabolism stops providing energy to power your brain, you're done. All awareness ceases forever. The end.
2007-09-21 14:04:55 · answer #3 · answered by Diogenes 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
What bothers me is that people don't know how to use proper grammar or the spell checker.
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Not knowing or using correct grammar is a typo? And by the way, I do have a life. You might not have recognized it because mine doesn't include asking ridiculous questions like this. If atheists believed, even for a second, that they were going to go to hell to sit next to Hitler, bin Laden, Stalin, etc. just because they don't believe in god, then don't you think that they would believe in god? You can't believe that you'll be going to hell if you don't believe there IS a hell! So yes, I'm at peace with it. Why don't you stop assuming that you KNOW everything and that you're RIGHT about everything and just leave people alone? Did you ever think of the possibility that you're wrong? Other than the belief in god or lack thereof, that's the main difference between people like you and atheists. Atheists (in general) don't assume that they are the only ones that are right and that everyone else is stupid. Atheists don't go around telling people that they need to convert or else they're going to suffer for the rest of eternity. And finally, atheists actually take the time to think about what they believe and question what they're being told instead of just blindly believing whatever their parents told them like many theists do. (I know not all theists are like this, but you have to admit that many of them are.) The only thing this question proves to me is that you are ignorant.
2007-09-21 13:28:12 · answer #4 · answered by Two quarters & a heart down 5 · 9⤊ 0⤋
Yes, actually.
To be honest, that was a big problem for me.
However, look at what has happened to all of those murderous, immoral, sociopaths.
They are all dead, stripped of all dignity, and will be remembered for being terrorizing scumbags.
I believe that our own Heaven and Hell will be created and lived in as a result of our own actions.
As much as I hate that people like Hitler and Stalin will face the same fate in death as my loving, kind, generous parents, what I want to be true won't make it true.
When my parents die, they will be surrounded by and remembered by a close circle of loving, supportive, faithful friends and family. That would be the consequence of how they lived their lives.
No matter how faithfully I believed in a rewarding afterlife for them, it won't make it so, and if there is a Heaven, and they aren't allowed to enter, I wouldn't want to go anyway.
El Chistoso
2007-09-21 14:28:21 · answer #5 · answered by elchistoso69 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
What bothers me is people who try to force their beliefs on others. Just because something is in a book, written by men, doesn't make it so. You are entitled to believe whatever you wish, as am I.
"And this I believe: That the free, exploring mind of the individual human is the most valuable thing in all the world. And this I would fight for: The freedom of the mind to take any direction it wishes, undirected. And this I must fight against: Any idea, religion, or government which limits or destroys the individual." John Steinbeck, East of Eden
2007-09-21 13:38:39 · answer #6 · answered by Tom H 2 · 3⤊ 0⤋
I don't believe there is any afterlife. So I will indeed be sharing the same fate as Hitler, Stalin, Jerry Falwell, Reggie and Ronnie Kray, Mother Theresa, Gandhi, and you. Are you at peace with this?
2007-09-21 13:43:34 · answer #7 · answered by Scumspawn 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
So, did Hitler and the rest of the other mass murderers made a phone call to you to tell you this, or you simply think so because a few thousand year old revised edition book tells you so? Or was it the next door pastor or priest who told you so? Or was it you purchase a two way ticket to hell to understand it?
I think it should be because of your delusion. Therefore, your delusion does not bother me. However, did it bother you that you only have such a short time here on earth and yet you spend most of it deluding and wasting it away because of a book?
2007-09-21 13:31:41 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 0⤋
Not necessarily. The scriptures mention different levels of hell, for instance the fallen angels are cast down into the deepest levels. So Hitler may receive a much worse punishment then, say, Abraham Lincoln.
2007-09-21 13:28:22 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Do you believe your God to be fair and just? Is God really love (1 John 4:8)? Is punishing people in the same horrific way "love"? If you believe the death penalty for murderers to be just, do you also think that people who steal candy bars should be executed? Is that just? And is justice even as great a spiritual quality (these are very relative terms, I know) as "love"?
2007-09-21 13:38:12 · answer #10 · answered by Joez2103 2 · 4⤊ 0⤋
I've learned to live with it, yes.
I assume you're talking about Hell. If you think a decent atheist is condemned to everlasting torment as Hitler and other mass murderers are, and yet you still follow your religion because you think it is right, you might want to take a long hard look at yourself and ask yourself what kind of person you really are.
2007-09-21 13:32:36 · answer #11 · answered by Citizen Justin 7 · 5⤊ 0⤋