Should the college then have to pay the rejected student's tuition, fees and room&board at that students college of choice?
2007-09-21
11:14:18
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➔ Immigration
To Clarify: Illegal immigrants are admitted to Universities all the time. The schools are "allowed" (under a supreme court ruling) to consider Race as admitting criteria to judge them for acceptance, elevating these students scores over some US born students.
In this example: " In fall 2006, four undocumented students from Colorado qualified for and were admitted to UNM,” McKinsey says. “Seven have qualified for and are eligible for admission this coming fall.” In addition, she says another New Mexico regulation allows any student to take six hours at an institution of higher education in New Mexico and pay in-state tuition rates.
The seven students admitted for the upcoming semester have also been offered the in-state tuition rate under the agreement.
“This has been reviewed by Colorado Higher Ed and they have determined these students are eligible for the reciprocal program,” says McKinsey. "
Illegal Immigrants HAVE be taken a slot from a US citizen.
2007-09-21
11:42:49 ·
update #1
http://diverseeducation.com/artman/publish/article_9420.shtml
2007-09-21
11:43:08 ·
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In general, the requirements for admission to a post-secondary institution are based on a combination of academic standing and relevant experience.
If one individual meets more of the requirements (or simply has a better transcript and/or resume), then that individual should get the position.
Knowingly admitting to a scholastic program someone who is in the country illegally is actually against the law - in the same way that employing one is. Both the specific degree program and the school itself can be subjected to fairly severe penalties ... the problem would be in proving that it was done "knowingly".
Should the institution have to reimburse the "rejected" applicant? No - not even if there was definite proof that the applicant met or exceeded the qualifications for entry into the prgoram. Their legal indemnity would usually be limited to the processing cost of the application made to their facility (stamps, fees actually paid up front, photocopy costs, etc).
2007-09-21 11:29:53
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answered by CanTexan 6
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No, I think the college should just be fined for knowingly allowing education to an illegal immigrant... Whether it's the law or not, it should be.
In Michigan, public universities are forbidden from using affirmative action (it wasn't always this way, they outlawed it less than a year ago). However private colleges are allowed to do what they want as far as admissions go in most cases. Though I'd think there'd be something saying they can't take in an illegal immigrant.
Amanda H doesn't seem to get it. It's unimportant what race he is (unless he was favored because of his race, while that might not be illegal where this is, it's still a despicable horrible practice), but the fact that he was an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT. It's nothing like a student with a visa. They're in this country legally, where as an ILLEGAL immigrant is here ILLEGALLY, hence the word ILLEGAL.
2007-09-21 11:42:35
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answered by William E. Roberts 5
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Unfortunately, unless we have a radical change in government, as it stands now illegals, immigrants and minorities have a much more favorable situation for education than US citizens. And still, we rise to the top!! In a continuous effort to weaken the future leadership of this country, now we have states like Oregon and Washington adopting Mexico's education curriculum to teach not just the Mexicans, but our own students...
When topics like History and civics are taught through a Mexican curriculum, you can bet our culture and civilization and all the other things that make this country great will be actively discredited.
2007-09-21 11:27:46
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answered by Anonymous
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That is silly. By that token, we shouldn't allow foreign students (with visas) if there are rejection of US citizens as a result. Universities receive a lot of income from foreign students, and, I am sorry, but, I think if you have good enough grades you should be able to go to school. If you just don't have the grades, you don't have them, Period. I don't think the University should do anything more than take the most qualified applicants.
There are several states (7 I believe) where you can study without ID. There are also 7 more states that will allow undocumented students entry if they attended more than 3 years of highschool in that state & graduated. of course, they have the same academic requirements for entry as any other applicant.
2007-09-21 11:31:01
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answered by Amanda h 5
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It has always been that way. I went to a state university where 50% of students were foreign. I was reading on my brother's admissions application to Dartmouth and it asked if he had any ETHNICITY to offer to diversify the make-up of the University Campus. The minute he checked no--I know his application screener hit the "delete" button. He Graduated from Carnegie Mellon with high honors.
Then, take a look at the DREAM ACT congress passed for illegals. Things don't get any more unfair.
2007-09-21 13:01:16
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answered by Suze 6
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Colleges who accept illegal aliens as students should be boycotted by US citizens and held accountable. My college experience was more diverse due to the international students, but they were legally here and paid higher tuitions.
Our oldest son's university education cost us about $40K with another $80K in scholarships, now we're paying more for law school. Our daughter's was about $25k with another $75K in scholarships. Our youngest son is a junior and the final cost yet unknown.
Who will pay for the illegal aliens? US taxpayers?
A higher education is valuable, but expensive to obtain. Our financial aid resources for higher education should be reserved for deserving US citizens who couldn't otherwise afford to go and that is where universities should place their focus. It should not be used in any fashion for an illegal alien and definitely not as a path to amnesty.
2007-09-21 11:51:26
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answered by Anonymous
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Illegal immigrants should go under International students and not be classed in the same category as Legal US citizens in any way.
There should be a limited number of US citizens and International students allowed into each institution (the numbers should not overlap and the privledges different).
2007-09-21 11:23:04
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes.
Only legal residents should be attending American Colleges.
In the short term illegal immigrants pay into the Social Security system which is almost bankrupt.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050410/news_mz1e10ruben.html
They also provide recruits for the military.
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3271/illegal_immigrants_uncle_sam_wants_you/
The Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act, or DREAM Act, is part of the stalled package of proposals that many in Congress are seeking to resurrect. The proposal, applicable to an estimated 750,000 undocumented residents of military age, stipulates that those who arrived in the United States before age 16, graduated from high school, and meet other qualifications could immediately enter the path to citizenship in exchange for at least two years' service in the armed forces.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/06/16/immigration_bill_offers_a_military_path_to_us_dream/
But not all of them pay taxes.
http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/Library/Archives/SaveSS.htm
In the long term Amnesty Will Cost U.S. Taxpayers at Least $2.6 Trillion.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1490.cfm
Tancredo, Ron Paul, and Hunter have the most conservative voting records on immigration.
http://www.betterimmigration.com/candidates/2006/prez08_gop2.html
http://www.betterimmigration.com/candidates/2006/prez08_gop1.html
Of these three, Ron Paul has the best chance of winning the Primary election.
Paul's campaign has almost 4 times as much money to spend as Tancredo.
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/Q2/C00432914.html
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/Q2/C00431619.html
Ron Paul has stated that he wants very strong borders and he was appalled that our government had taken border guards off of our borders to send them to Iraq.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/haman3.html
This is his six point plan:
Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.
http://ronpaul2008.com/issues/border-security-and-immigration-reform/
The NAFTA Superhighway might be another significant threat to American borders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBmFrYWPoG8
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul349.html
2007-09-22 12:10:28
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answered by Eric Inri 6
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I think that US citizens and residents should get absolute priority over illegal immigrants when it comes to college.
However, I don't think the university owes the rejected student all of that stuff because of it. They just should have looked more carefully at their legal status before admitting them.
2007-09-21 11:20:54
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answered by Anonymous
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No but an Illegal immigrant should be forced to pay double that of a LEGAL immigrant!
2007-09-21 13:28:19
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answered by Anonymous
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