The theist's mental chain... simplified:
#1. Failure to understand the world.
#2. Assuming a conscious creator for the world.
#3. Failure to understand the creator.
#4............
Error?
Ockham's Razor would suggest skipping the unnecessary steps and just accepting a failure to understand the world in the first place..... It is, afterall, far too vast and complex for a mere simpleton to comprehend.
On the flipside... if they are clearly smart enough to know that a god made it.... then by the same means they should be equally smart enough to figure out the god's motives for making it (or if they can't do that... they could just make up a motive... like they did with the rest).
2007-09-21 04:49:06 · 23 answers · asked by Lucid Interrogator 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Oregon Flower :~ O RLY? .... Methinx you fail to recognise the difference between knowledge and understanding....
Perhaps you would care to answer the questions that your fellow christians seem incapable of asking..... regarding god's tolerance of evil, limitations of power, reluctance to self-demonstrate, plans for the world, reason behind making it in the first place, etc etc etc ?
2007-09-21 05:11:38 · update #1
Christian_you :~ Just need comfort? If I just need comfort then I just switch on the part of my brain that generates the necessary hormones to achieve it..... Physical self-control isn't something they teach you in bible-studies....
2007-09-21 05:14:22 · update #2
Probably because they know that carpenters make chairs and blacksmiths make horseshoes..... and while they don't know how the craftsmen make those things, they still sorta know that they make them.
But then they're cutting a lot of corners and making really stupid assumptions, then branding them truth and condemning those who don't agree with their idiocy.... so I spare no remorse for them.
2007-09-23 08:38:05 · answer #1 · answered by Dire Badger 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
once you have remembered why you are here, and where you have been, and where you are, usually space and time have become time and space. A broadening of understanding. A remembering. These are questions to be asked in private meditations. Sometimes information concerning matters such as these can become distorted when coming from other selves due to the ego,and the misinterpretation of the source feed. Question such as these may only be felt and resonate within you true for proper consolation, and comfort, and satisfaction.Words are improper devices to explain beyond the depths.
2007-09-21 12:27:41 · answer #2 · answered by matte stone 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
we hear about times when people feared the eclipse of the sun... it looked like magic.... it looked like the sun would be consumed by darkness... today we see it as a natural phenomena caused by the moon traveling between the sun and earth during day light hours..
Religions work with that type of fear, if you don't understand it, IT is magical.... and then IT --Through Religion works very hard keeping that blindness going...
When people talk evolution, they look to things before humans existed... they fail to even consider the living proof of evolution... it's all around... In the trees, in the insect world.... we should have started from what's here then look back... for some stupid reasons the scientist chose or begun to obsess with what can not be answered to prove their theories rather than what can simply be proven.
2007-09-21 12:02:18 · answer #3 · answered by NO Labels 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Why are there places around the world (like Glenn Rose Texas) that have human and dinosaur footprints in the same rock?
How did the woolly mammoths die, so that the contents of their stomachs did not have time to digest (even -100F is not cold enough to do it)?
How did the Colorado River flow up hill for many thousands of years to make the Grand Canyon (the land up stream of the canyon is several hundred feet lower than the land at the top of the canyon)?
Why did the "ice age" center on the magnetic poles instead of the axis?
2007-09-21 11:59:10 · answer #4 · answered by tim 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
The most difficult and humiliating lesson that man has to learn is his own inefficiency in depending upon human wisdom, and the sure failure of his own efforts to understand the universe or the God who made it. Since the fall man's vision has been obscured, and of himself he cannot interpret the universe or know God aright.
The only key to the mysteries that surround us is to acknowledge in them all the presence and power of God.
"Where shall I go from Your Spirit? Where shall I flee from Your presence?" Psalm 137:9.
The greatness of God is to us incomprehensible. The Lord's throne is in Heaven (Psalm 11:4); yet by His Spirit He is everywhere present! Those who have a true knowledge of God will not become so infatuated by the "laws of matter" or the "operations of nature" as to overlook or refuse to acknowledge the continual working of God. Nature in her work testifies of an unseen, mighty Intelligence that is moving in all things according to His will. To understand that is getting acquainted with God!
"Since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, even His eternal power and Godhead." Romans 1:20.
2007-09-21 12:04:30 · answer #5 · answered by sky 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Your question makes no sense. If we cannot understand something it is not understandable to us. That does not necessarily imply that it will always be so. A creator makes sense to us in the regard that we know the physical universe began. The question is how? There can be only two explanations. One would be it created itself. The other would be someone or something else created it. Some claim the physical universe always existed but the big bang theory seems to disprove that.
Besides, why would it be easier to believe the physical universe always existed and not that there is a creator who always existed?
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2007-09-21 12:01:49 · answer #6 · answered by Jacob W 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
I do know the world, I do know that there is a creator and I understand what He wants me to do and for what purpose.
(In the spiritual sense of the world, which is what I am concerned with being a Christian. As a regular human being, science does not interest me. But I'm sure there are Christian Scientists out there who wonder about these same geological and astronomical mysteries of the universe.)
Spiritually speaking of God and the world: if you can't see or understand what this knowledge that Christians possess about understanding the world, God, and his purpose on us means to us...that doesn't mean no one else does too.
Failure to understand the universe is due to us being intellectually primitive and technologically hindered still. You, of all people, should give that fact acknowledgment as well.
2007-09-21 11:59:28 · answer #7 · answered by CurlySue 6 · 0⤊ 3⤋
Absolutely. I suppose it gives them comfort to think that there is an all-powerful creator called god looking over us, even at the expense of truth.
"I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world."
-Richard Dawkins
2007-09-21 11:57:50 · answer #8 · answered by T Delfino 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
That's all well and good except even you must admit that if we don't understand it and never will, then there MUST be something smarter than us at the root of it all. Knowing this I searched on my own for who or what that was. I don't believe in God, I know Him to exist. To give God human thought processes is as foolish as trying to persuade you to believe in Him. I know why we as people were created, for the same reason a man and a woman plan to have children, for a love relationship.
2007-09-21 12:03:22 · answer #9 · answered by Scott B 7 · 1⤊ 2⤋
As someone that understands the Universe better than most, I know full well that Human science cannot even begin to explain existance.
2007-09-21 12:01:44 · answer #10 · answered by philip 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋