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I cannot do it and all those I know believe it cannot be done in terms of known functions. Can you prove us wrong?

2007-09-20 23:25:09 · 6 answers · asked by Anonymous in Science & Mathematics Mathematics

Angel heart: good try; except ... differentiating 1/2tanxe^x doesn't give tanx e^x. The mistake occurs in the 2nd integration by parts. The integral of
ln(secx) isn't tanx! (integral of sec^2x is tanx!!)

2007-09-23 20:44:49 · update #1

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No, it can't be done in terms of elementary functions.
I'll try to concoct a proof for you, which I don't
have right now, but the main tool used in proving
this is a theorem of Liouville:
If f is an elementary function and
I = ∫ e^x f(x) dx is elementary
then
I must have the form Re^x,
where R is a rational function of x and tan x.
Let's try to apply this theorem here
Suppose I = ∫ e^x tan x is elementary
then
I = Re^x
Differentiate both sides to get
e^x tan x = e^x(R+R')
So R + R' = tan x.
Here's where I have to do some work to finish
the job.
How can one prove that there is no rational
function of x and tan x such that
R + R' = tan x?
For a way of doing this you might consut
the excellent article by Matthew Wiener at
http://www.math.niu.edu/~rusin/known-math/93_back/elementary.int

2007-09-21 05:47:32 · answer #1 · answered by steiner1745 7 · 2 0

OOOPS MY BADD
getting lost in this notation...

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OKAY this would be Easiest to do if I Scanned my hand calculations so as not to distract with all the--well you know. But here goes.
This problem is a bit of a Buggar !!!
Obviously you need to DO Integration by Parts. What is Most Annoying is one's Choice for u and for dv.
First of all Integration by Parts is given by:
Integral of ( u dv) = uv - Integral (v du )
Now obviously it would be great to begin by saying let
u = tanx and dv = e ^ x
so that
du = sec ^2x dx and v = e ^ x
Except you Soon discover Exactly where THAT goes to Naught !!!

SO begin with
u = e ^ x and dv = tanx dx

du = e ^x dx and v = ln (secx)

OH I know horrors that !!!
now you get
ln (secx) e ^ x - [ Integral (ln (secx) e ^x dx ]

NOW do the Integration by parts AGAIN for
[ Integral ( ln (secx) e ^x dx ]

u = e ^x dv = ln (secx) dx
du = e ^ x v = tanx

and again so uv - Integral v du becomes:

tanx e^x - Integral [ tanx e^x dx ]

NOW combine ALL :
Integral [ tanx e^x dx ] =
ln(secx) e^x - [ tanx e ^x - Integral [ tanx e^x dx]
carrying through the negative sign gives:
Integral [ tanx e^x dx ] =
ln(secx) e^x - tanx e ^x + Integral [ tanx e^x dx]
AND SO:

tanx e^x = ln(secx) e ^x
Integrate both sides of Equation

Integral [ tanx e ^x dx] = Integral [ ln(secx) e^x dx }
which is:
since we have already shown by Integration by Parts the
Integral [ ln(secx) e^x dx ] = tanx e^x - Integral[ tanx e^x dx ]

Integral [ tanx e^x dx] =
tanx e^x - Integral [ tanx e ^x dx ]
and SO

2 Integral [ tanx e^x dx ] = tanx e^x


Integral [tanx e^x dx ] = 1/2 [ tanx e^x} QED

WELL HOPING this above notation not TOO distracting...

I will attempt later to SCAN my hand calculations into document and cut and paste into my answer Next...

2007-09-23 13:16:35 · answer #2 · answered by Angel Heart 1 · 1 2

I agree this cannot be done in terms of known functions.

2007-09-21 01:28:57 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

it cant be done in terms of elementary functions no. mathcad returns 'no symbolic result found' and mathematica returns something very complicated in terms of higher functions.

2007-09-20 23:57:00 · answer #4 · answered by Jeremy W 3 · 1 0

Use integration by parts, then the reduction formulae.

2007-09-21 01:30:17 · answer #5 · answered by mr_maths_man 3 · 1 2

No I can't. I haven't a clue. But congratulations on asking your first question, and I hope you get lots of answers better than mine. Later Harry. :o)

2007-09-20 23:57:14 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

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