Jena 6 Victim?

Question

Please, if you are here only to spew hatred towards Blacks or Whites PLEASE take it somewhere else. I'm so tired of seeing us turn against one another. I just watched Nightline and learned that the Jena 6 beating victim was at a school function that very night? I was under the impression that he almost died. Are the Jena 6 being overcharged? Also, I don't know exactly what led up to the fight that caused this young man to be jumped on.

I remember high school days where these types of fights happened all the time. We got suspended, not incarcerated.

Your thoughts?

Aunt Sera – I also asked for no bitterness or hateful attitudes. You sound so bitter when all I did was ask for information and opinions. Aren’t you capable of doing that without attacking someone? No, NOTHING justifies 1 person being beaten up by 6 so I hope you feel just as bitter about this story: A Black young woman tortured and held captive for a week or more by 6 people, all White. http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/5524... And here is another one that flew under the radar. The brutal rape, torture and murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom by five Black people (if they should even be called that). http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp I would wear whatever color the White community chose to rally in for the death penalty of the vermin who did this. These perpetrators are scum, I hope they fry. I thought maybe I could finally have a post where people could lay aside their anger and discuss, but I guess in general, people like you just like being angry.

Well Sera, to say "I wouldn't spit on any of these thugs if their guts were on fire." Sounds a bit bitter. Not all of these boys were thugs, one had a full scholarship to Grambling University. Hmmmm, can you do that and be a thug too? Also to say "You state that you don't know what led up to the fight that caused the boy to be jumped on. Think about it. Does *anything* justify one person being beaten by 6 others? I think not." implies not only that I approve of what happened, but that I have virtually no thinking or reasoning skills: sounds a bit judgemental. I notice you conveniently skipped over the 2 stories I left links to. 2 of these people are DEAD and 1 will probably have psychological damage the rest of her life after what was done to her. Yet you wouldn't spit on the flaming thugs who beat up a boy who was at the school dance that very night. When you look at theses 3 cases and your reaction compared to the rest of the responses, yea u sound bitter. Perception skewed much?

Answer 1

I agree with you.For some reason this all slipped past me until I saw people here on Detroit getting on buses with their pjs pillows and blankets.Don't people work? I think that has all gotten blown WAY out of proportion by the media and whoever else. The law today is not fair to ANYONE at anytime. What about people jailed for things they never even did??? For decades!!! There are people getting bum raps all over this country everyday-why is this so different than anything else? And in the end it will probably turn out ok-like at Duke but look at the the time and energy spent on what??? And at whose espense? Just like you said, back in high school, it would have been considered a fight-not attempted murder with a shoe, people would have been suspended and the next day they would have been best of friends again.These people are 16-17 ignorant KIDS! And by ignorant I mean immature- making matters worse by hanging nooses and causing uproars like that is just plain STUPID!!! And WHERE are the parents of these kids?This had gone way too far. And those links you gave are two of the most horrendous cases yet.They should put those 11 or 12 people all together in one hole.I cant even stand looking at their faces.

Answer 2

He suffered a concussion and one eye was swollen shut. It wasn't a fight, as the one kid did not attack the six, and most of the injuries were delivered after he was unable to resist. He was allowed to go to the school's ring dance, which may or may not be the prom equivelent, but he went with a cracked skull.

Also, there was no tie between the victim and the display of the nooses. The three students who put the nooses in the tree were originally sent up for expulsion from school, but the school board reduced the punishment to three days of suspension.

From reports gathered by police, there wasn't any mention of the nooses by witnesses, or the perpetrators of the assault, so this may simply have been a group attack on a preferred target.

The problem is that the perpetrators are being tried as adults.

Answer 3

My thoughts? Well since you asked.....

I think at least one of the Jena 6, specifically Mychael Bell, will be arrested for other crimes and possibly incarcerated within the next 12-24 months. He already has 4 violent offenses on his juvie rap sheet. He's already been on probation (I think it was for assault & battery). This thug is already a career criminal before he finishes high school. What a winner...NOT. And people are being asked to wear t-shirts and rally to support him and the others. I wouldn't spit on any of these thugs if their guts were on fire. There. You have my thoughts on the issue.

You state that you don't know what led up to the fight that caused the boy to be jumped on. Think about it. Does *anything* justify one person being beaten by 6 others? I think not.

Edit: Wow. I'm a bit offended to be accused of bitterness and hatefuleness because I stated facts. You asked for thoughts...you got them. The truth is the truth. Some people want to be blind to the fact that some of these young men have been in trouble with the law. Some people aren't aware of the recidivism rate among violent offenders, no matter their age. BTW, who did I attack?

There have been horrible acts committed in the past that have been totally overlooked by the press. This sad event in Jena made headlines. I refuse to support someone who has committed a violent crime such as this. If all you wanted was love and peace and pats on the back, you came knocking on the wrong door here.

Answer 4

The case displays an abandonment of principle and embrace of faction. If, in principal, you oppose a group of people breaking the law to hurt a person who has been singled out by race, and then avoiding the punishment set out by the law as a result of a show of power by their associated group, then you should dislike the Jena 6. In the same light you should feel horrified at the murder of Emmit Till in the 50's, and the subsequent failure to convict his killers.

However, the politics in the South from about the 20's on, involves where you come from and who your people are. So for a long time it mattered how much money you had, how old your money was, how close you ties were to the old families in the area, and whether you were black or white.

With this factionalism intact, you have people who provide unconditional support for their group, right or wrong, day or night. So, (according to the group structure) a group of poor, old land black teenagers attacked a single poor, old land white teenager. This is an old rivalry, between poor factions. The poor old land whites then seek an elevated standard of punishment, while the poor old land blacks fight for complete freedom. I have as yet to see someone say "Send them to jail, but send them to juveneille jail."

It seems now that it's a choice between trying them as adults or letting them go. And in the whole thing, the actual person who was assaulted and the nature of the assault itself, has been forgotten. Now the whole situation is being framed as whether you support the law, or righting historical grievances. It doesn't seem to be dealing with the assault of six people against one person, and the severity of the injuries.

Answer 5

how i see it was a group of white kids wanted some black kids moved from what they considered to be "their" tree, the next day after these black kids sat at this tree area there was a noose hanging from it.......quite clearly NOT put there by the black kids [IMO] from the get go I feel the school board put tat BS down to high jinx's instead of the nasty little cr*p it was. things went from bad to worse, and to be honest I saw a pic of the kid that was meant to have got beaten by 6 black kids and all I can say is that he got away very lightly..........NOT that hitting is right but like you I also heard that the same child was out the same night...............bet that's gonna come back and bite him in the butt at some point.........

This should have been dealt with CORRECTLY from school level and maybe it would not have go out of hand.

Hope that these boys get off to be honest, and if it had been any of my kids that hung the noose from the tree I would have done the butt whooping for them without a doubt.

regards

Answer 6

I feel that you are right and all of them should be punished for violence and let well enough along. Then as these young men black and white gets older, they will sit back and laugh and realize the games people play and how they made it over to victory of a better life.