Hi-I read the statement just above mine. I used to believe the way those who follow the Rabbis did, too. Then I read the full books, and I now see where it is NOT being Jewish to follow the rabbis who do not follow Jesus. Look up in Wikipedia what Pharisees means, then look up how the Levites, who became the Pharisees who became the Rabbis were created, They were never given the Promised land, as others were, maybe because HaShem knew they would not stay True to His word.
I am a 54 year old Messianic Jew, who observes Torah, reads both books because I believe one fulfills the prophesies of the other, and that all the prophesies that Yeshua/Jesus came to fulfill were in the Tenakh (the Law, Prophets, and Writings) that many call the Old testament.
What made the New testament a New Covenant is NOT that the Laws of Moses were thrown out, or even that, as I have read so many times, that Jesus contradicted the Torah.
THE WAYS TO PREPARE AND OBSERVE YOM KIPPUR FROM A MESSIANIC PERSPECTIVE- It includes something called the Daniel fast, which is a compromise if you want-http://biblicalholidays.com/Yom-Kipppur/observing.htm
TO BETTER UNDERSTAND YOM KIPPUR FROM A JEWISH/BOTH RABBINIC AND MESSIANIC PERSPECTIVE
http://biblicalholidays.com/yom_kippur.htm
TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT HOW AND WHY THE NEW TESTAMENT IS A FULFILLMENT, NOT ABOLISHMENT OF THE OLD TESTAMENT...
Read Isaiah 53, Read Isaiah 59 and 63-and know that Pharisee means "separated." In the Torah-the first 5 books of the Old testament-HaShem separated Aaron and his sons from the rest of the people. He told them they would receive the wealth, the tithes, and not inherit the land. He said that what He wanted of them was for them to make sure the people stayed true to the Law He gave to Moses on Mt. Sinai. But, in Jeremaiah 31:31-34, He said that they had broken their seal of acceptance of what He had promised them. And in Ezekiel 34, He said that the rabbis had led the sheep astray, and that he Himself would come to lead the lost sheep back, and He would bring His servant David (Yeshua came from the lineage of David, as it says in Matthew 1, and Luke), and that the servant David would be "the Good Shepherd."
It has been there for centuries. Messianic Jews are no tnew--Paul, Peter, John, all of them were as Jewish as Jesus/Yeshua Himself. Look who He told them to go to first. Look where they all went first when they made their journeys-always to the synagogues. Look who he said in Matthew 15 He had come to save, and compare that to Ezekiel 34. But, it took until now for the RE-DEVELOPMENT, THE RE-BIRTH, of the Messianic Jew. The Messianic person existed before the Jew, in fact. Read Genesis 14, and see how first Avram tithed to Melchizedek, a king anointed a High Priest, able to bless people. And because he had tithed, Avram was blessed and received a covenant from HaShem, G-D in Genesis 15.
When John said the Word went from being with G-D to being G-D in John 1:1, he meant that, as per Ezekiel 34, (important chapter to read), HaShem/G-D was very upset with how those He anointed as high priests had taken care of themselves, and let His people go astray because they followed blindly like sheep.
The Day of Atonement still exists, and my congregation-which reads from the Torah each week and from both volumes of the entire book-still honors it--we know that being a Messianic Jew is ok to be a Christian, because Messianic means "those who believe in an anointed one," and comes from the Hebrew, while Christian literally means "those who follow/believe in the anointed one" and comes from the Greek. Christian is NOT what the churches says it means. Reading it with an understanding of the first book, it is easyier to understand why Jesus did speak against the Pharisees, did say they proclaim to be Jewish and are not. They write a Talmud that is man made Law because they denied the Truth, turned away from the Way. In time, many will see.
For years, I used to follow Yom Kippur to atone for my sins. Now I fast on Yom Kippur to remember that the greatest sacrifice of them all-Yeshua giving His life for us-grants Believers Atonement and this is a rehearsal for Judgement Day, when I will be judged for how well I have stayed in the Spirit. It is as Jewish, no matter what the rabbis or the churches say, as anything else...it is in the books of the Prophets, If you decide to fast, then spend some time reading the later Prophets and read it with an understanding, asking questions, of what you know about Jesus, Paul, other prophesies.
Read in the first book how there are to be TWO MESSIAHS-NOT ONE--the first was the servant David, the Meshiach ben Joseph, the servant who would suffer as it say sin Isaiah 53, for the sins of others, and as it says in 53:12 "would make intercession for the transgressors." It gtives a whole new meaning to "the way to the Father is through the Son," when you know what it means to "make intercession." It is not of the gospel, it is first of the Tenakh, the Old Testament, and the gospels merely attests to the fulfillment of prophesy.
When it comes to Yom Kippur, then, it is to remember how Jesus/Yeshuah, did make the greatest sacrifice, and if we follow His commandments, we will be the sheep led to the pasture.
As for the Law, it says that one can fast unless one becomes ill. There have been times, because at my older age I am a diabetic, when I have had no choice but to eat because of my sugar levels. Yeshua understands that, just as He healed on the Sabbath. You may get tireder than usual on Saturday because of fasting, and it is ok to take a nap unless you have reasons not to. You may feel an ache in your stomach. If you ar enot feeling well, it is ok to eat. What I did for years before I was saved, when I was still a rabbinic Jew, was take a quart of milk to coat my stomach. I'd have a large enough meal sometimes, even as a kid, to hold me over for 24 hours, so I was not being undernourished, I was simply going without. If I was tired because of not eating, I took a nap, which is easier to do this year because it is on a Saturday.
But, if you truly are not feeling well, and start feeling ill-your health does come first and will be understood. So, make a deal with your mom that if you start feeling sicj, you will have a small something, otherwise fast to remember how dying upon the cross did atone for us, and that you are following your Holy Spirit, in rehearsal for Judgment Day.
The New Covenant (see Hebrews 7:27) was moving from the ways of the flesh to the ways of the Spirit, being circumcised of the heart to be purified, not of the foreskin (read several of Paul's writings), and having the Highest of them all make the supreme sacrifice for all-time atonement of sins for those who follow His ways rarther than having man interpret the words and make sacrifices and gifts for atonement.
Explain to your mother how your and all Believrs Holy Spirit has to come first according to the Bible, and if your Holy Spirit says for you to eat, you will follow it.
I hope this advice helps. As I said-I started out doing it to sacrifice for my own atonement, now I do it to remember and to prepare for Judgment Day. The Bible says that He will come for the 2nd Time during this Time of Year, and to be prepared, and I commend you for wanting to rehearse.
2007-09-20 16:10:01
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