jews: how do you interpret scripture to not predict the comings of either jesus or muhammad?
christians: how do you interpret the jewish scriptures to predict the coming of jesus, but not of muhammad?
muslims: how do you interpret judeo-christian scriptures to predict the comings of muhammad and jesus?
2007-09-20
09:46:42
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please star this. i want as many answers as possible!
2007-09-20
09:47:04 ·
update #1
please quote actual scripture.
2007-09-20
09:51:17 ·
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dsanthony - i do not mean a second coming...i mean the first coming for both jesus and the only coming of muhammad
2007-09-20
09:53:23 ·
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brittney - do you have a problem with me asking questions and seeking knowlede? i can't figure why... lol.
2007-09-20
09:54:45 ·
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fireball - i'm asking people to interpret scriptures that came BEFORE their religion...not after...
2007-09-20
09:58:10 ·
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maybe if i say it again in big letters people will see it: PLEASE QUOTE ACTUAL SCRIPTURES
2007-09-20
10:00:29 ·
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Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon 5:16.
The Hebrew word used in this verse is Mahamaddim. The ending letters 'im' is a plural of respect, majesty and grandeur, just as in Elohim (the God). Without 'im' the name becomes Mahamadd which was translated as "altogether lovely" in the Authorized Version of the Bible or 'The Praised One', 'the one worthy of Praise.' In Arabic, Muhammad means the one who is most praised.
* Song of Solomon 5:16
His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.
The phrase "he is altogether lovely" reads in the Hebrew as "he is
Mahamaddim."
Haggai 2:7-9
And I will shake all nations, and the Himada of all the nations
will come; and I will fill this house with glory, says the Lord of hosts. Mine is the silver, mine is the gold, says the Lord of hosts, the glory of my last house shall be greater than that of the first one, says the Lord of hosts; and in this place I will give Shalom, says the Lord of Hosts.
(Quoted from Reference 4).
The Hebrew words Mahmad, Mahamod, Himdah, and Hemed appearing in the Old Testament and the Arabic words Muhammad and Ahmad are all derived from the same root "H, M and D," and refer to the same general meaning. These Hebrew words convey qualities as well as the person depending on the phrase used in the Old Testament. The Hebrew word Shalom and the Arabic word Salam have the same meaning - peace. They are derived from the root alphabets "S, L and M." Islam is also derived from the same root alphabets and means the
path of peace.
Prophet Muhammad in the Old Testament
Almost all the previous Prophets predicted the Prophet Muhammad, upon him be peace and blessings. Despite the changes they have undergone over time, we can still find indications to his coming in the Torah, Psalms and the Gospels.
A Prophet from among the brothers of the Israelites who resembles Moses
For example, the following verses of the Torah promise the coming of the Prophet Muhammad, upon him be peace and blessings:
The Lord said to me [Moses]: ‘What they say is good. I will raise up for them a Prophet like you among their brothers; I will put My words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My Name, I will Myself call him to account.’ (Deuteronomy, 18.17-9)
It is clear from these verses that what is meant by ‘a Prophet like you among their brothers’ is a Prophet who will come from the line of Ishmael, since Ishmael is the brother of Isaac, who is the forefather of Moses’ people, the Children of Israel. The only Prophet who came from the line of Ishmael after Moses and resembled him in many ways, for example, in the bringing of a new law and waging of war on his enemies, is the Prophet Muhammad, upon him be peace and blessings. Also, the following verse of the Bible in Deuteronomy, 34.12 (Istanbul 1885), clearly states that no Prophet like Moses did ever appear among the Israelites:
With respect to his virtues and awesome deeds, no Prophet like Moses, whom the Lord knows face to face, no longer appeared among Israel.
The Quran points to the same fact:
We have sent to you a Messenger as a witness over you, even as We sent to Pharaoh a Messenger. (al-Muzzammil, 73.15)
The sentence, I will put My words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him, in the verse in question, means that the promised Prophet will be unlettered and speak whatever is revealed to him. God reiterates the same fact in the Quran:
He does not speak out of [his own] desire. It is but a Revelation revealed. (al-Najm, 53.3-4)
2007-09-20 10:01:13
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answered by Al Qiyamah{top lawyer inshAllah} 5
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I think you might be under the assumption that all 3 religions use the same Scriptures? They dont, the Jews use the Old Testament as we know it, they do not deny there are prophecies of a coming messiah but simply deny the Messiah was/is Jesus. The OT never mentions Muhammad in any way. The Christians use the Old Testament too, and also the New, whereby Jesus being the Messiah predicted in the OT is revealed. The NT never mentions Muhammad or any prophets to come that are equal to Jesus in any way. Muslims use the Qu'ran which has some similarities to the Bible but only in the names of some of the charecters, not in their lives or teachings. This is why all 3 religions believe so differently.
2007-09-20 10:01:46
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answered by impossble_dream 6
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Jesus came once, was resurrected, then ascended to heaven = 1st coming 2nd coming = has not yet happened, future event. Christianity believes that the Old Testament prophecies indicate a Messiah to come and we believe that that Messiah is Jesus. Completely understand your view that Messiah has not come and how you conclude that. We just have to agree to disagree. ======================================... Serious question - where could one obtain a correct translation of Old Testament in Hebrew with the literal translation side by side? I would be HIGHLY interested in reading it and have looked for it but can not find. I have a Greek (New Testament), but not the literal Hebrew translation of the Old Testament. Help finding would be really appreciated! :) Thanks Feivel (I bet I spelled it wrong though I just looked at it) I will look into finding it. I searched amazon, didn't find, although I must say I wasn't sure which edition would be correct, so now I do,Thanks! BTW - I for one DO NOT think it to be the fault of the Jewish, and you are right, many doctrines out there with various beliefs, it does get confusing, I agree!
2016-05-19 04:49:39
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answered by ? 3
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The name Mohammad is not mentioned in the Songs of Solomon. The Songs of Solomon is a poem in the Bible that celebrates a man—presumably Solomon—love for his lady. The poem alternates between the compliments that the lady pays to the beauty and virility of her husband and the compliments the gentleman pays to his beloved. The gentleman compliments the lady as a “daughter of Jerusalem” and there is no allusion to a person living in 6th century Mecca. The use of the term Mahamaddim when used in this instance is a adjective; it is not a noun. This poem does not feature any type of prophesies and does not easily lend itself to allegory. Throughout the Ages people have been baffled by what this poem represents. Jews and Christians alike have been perturbed that the poem’s language is too often “pornographic” to be included in the Biblical canon Some Rabbinical commentary posit that the poem is a metaphor for God’s love for his chosen people. Some Christian scholars maintain that the poem is a metaphor for Christ’s love for his church. The Muslim’s contention that the Shepherd in Song of Solomon refers to Muhammad does not meet the traditional method of examining this poem. There is no evidence for Muhammad. My own sense of this poem is that it should not be interpreted as a metaphor for God’s love for the Jewish people or Christ’s love for his church. The poem is purely aesthetic and might well be just a celebration of heterosexual sensual love.
2014-02-20 17:16:24
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answered by lavishbt 2
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The Old Testament refers ONLY to a Messiah that will come from the blood of Abraham. Nothing about Jesus and any kind of virgin birth. Nothing about any prophet named Muhammad. The LACK of scripture about either Jesus OR Muhammad is how I interpret scripture to NOT predict the comings of either Jesus or Muhammad. Clear enough? Gosh, I hope so.
2007-09-20 10:01:03
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answered by Anonymous
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The Jewish faith is older than Christianity or Islam. Next came Christianity, which is really Judaism while believing the Messiah has already come. Then, many years after the death of Jesus, Mohammed came along. All these religions are based on the Jewish (old testament) which is mostly a faery tale anyway, so who cares!
2007-09-20 09:57:12
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answered by Anonymous
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The scriptures say what they say, how different religions interpret them is how they don't agree.
I will stand in for the christian group because that's the one I know the most about. The bible predicts the coming of Jesus and not Mohammad because Mohammad isn't in the bible. That's the Koran... I thank that's how you spell that. And the Jews don't believe ether.
2007-09-20 09:57:59
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answered by nhprodigio 2
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The Jewish scriptures don't predict MY birth, so it's no surprise that they don't predict Muhammad.
The Jewish scriptures specifically predict Jesus' coming. The passages are well-known and are left as an exercise for the reader.
2007-09-20 09:54:23
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answered by Craig R 6
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Seeing as how muhammed is still dead, how can he come back.
Jesus will come back after the "AntiChrist" likely, the 12th iman of Islam, rules for 7 years.
Islam teaches that the 12th Iman will come from Iraq and unite the world in Islam. When Iranian President Mahmoukalooka Akhmandonajihad (sp, but not that I care), went to the UN a couple of years ago, he talked of the spirit that came to possess him that he would usher in the 12th iman. Now, the 12th iman will not come until there is massive war and bloodshed. So with him acting as "John the Baptist - the precurser", then you have to wonder if we are less than 5 years away from a global war that will kill 2,000,000,000 people.
And at the end of the 12th Iman's reign of terror, Jesus will come back to earth, kill him, throw Satan into the lake of fire and rule the planet for 1,000 years.
By the way: Islam is in no way compatible with the teachings of either Judaism (the Jews will not worship a moon rock in mecca), or Christianity (Islam teaches that Jesus was never crucified, and therefore, never rose from the dead). If Islam is this out of line with scriptures, then who inspired it? Satan.
2007-09-20 09:52:39
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answered by Christmas Light Guy 7
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First we belive both Christian and Jewish as divine religion and islam is the complete form of those
Second it is not the Muhammad(pbuh) who comes it is Mahdi
2007-09-20 10:47:20
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answered by Anonymous
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