Perfect meaning... doing everything the bible/your religion tells you. I mean somebody didnt follow one of their own rules and you guys crucify them over here.
By my definition... a christian is somebody who just believes in a christian God... not neccessarily perfect.
2007-09-20 01:32:00 · 23 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
As a non believer I consider the opposite. Don't be upset with me Man in Hat. Christians can be as imperfect as they like and still claim to be a practicing Christian. Your god forgives your sins, allows you to repent, provides a guidebook to follow. As long as you turn up to church on Sunday, then the previous week's harm/sin/negligence can be totally wiped clean.
For a non believer, I have to to work this all out for myself. If I break my own moral code, nobody is available to hand out forgiveness and wipe clean the slate. I must labour over my problems and find solutions. I must work for my peace.
2007-09-20 04:34:50 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
Perfect-no, we can never be perfect while here on this earth. As it says in:
Romans 3:9-11 (New International Version)
9What shall we conclude then? Are we any better? Not at all! We have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under sin. 10As it is written:
"There is no one righteous, not even one;
11there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
If we COULD be perfect, there never would have been any need for Jesus to die for our sins.
There is an old saying that goes something like this:
"Christians aren't perfect-just forgiven"
We wn't be perfect in THIS life, but we will be when we die, as seen here:.
Corinthians 15:35-58 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
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The Resurrection Body
35But someone may ask, "How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?" 36How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39All flesh is not the same: Men have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.
42So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"[a]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven. 48As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the man from heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. 49And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so shall we[b] bear the likeness of the man from heaven.
50I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."[c]
55"Where, O death, is your victory?
Where, O death, is your sting?"[d] 56The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.
THIS is the hope of all who have that personal relationship with Christ! One day we WILL be perfect, & that is what keeps Believers serving Christ, BECAUSE of this promise!
2007-09-20 01:49:05 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
Perfect is a meaningless word in most contexts. You can talk about a perfect circle or a perfect square because those concepts are rigidly defined. There is no such model for determining a "perfect" Christian, so the question is meaningless.
I generally let religious people define their own labels. As far as Christians go, there are many definitions and many types of Christians. Most Christians like to bend their definitions so as not to include people they don't like who claim themselves Christian.
2007-09-20 01:36:00 · answer #3 · answered by nondescript 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
From what I understand, even the most depraved paedophile could go to Heaven if he truly repented. And that means TRULY, as opposed to "oh, I'd better start brown-nosing God as an insurance policy, besides it'd help my chances of getting parole if they think I've got religion."
Christianity has a very interesting internal logic.
2007-09-20 01:58:12 · answer #4 · answered by Scumspawn 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I hope not, because I am far from perfect. I don't think you need to be though. One of my favorite stories in the bible is the story of the Prodigal Son. After wasting all of his father's money on wild living, he picks himself up from the pigpen and comes home. He's given a party as soon as he gets there. He didn't do anything to deserve that party. He wasn't perfect. He was still covered with the thick grime of mistakes and yet he was given a party, imperfections and all.
2007-09-20 01:36:46 · answer #5 · answered by longtuesday 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Oh we're well aware that christians aren't perfect. Thanks.
Having said that, christians are the ones who say they believe in following god's laws so don't be surprised if we want to hold you to those rules you claim you follow.
2007-09-20 01:35:33 · answer #6 · answered by glitterkittyy 7 · 7⤊ 0⤋
of course Christians don't have to be perfect, nobody is. But when some Christians (not all of course) are so judgmental and feel so much superiority, then they have to prove they are truly superior. Atheists put them on test.
2007-09-20 01:38:48 · answer #7 · answered by remy 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
No, you just have to suspend critical thinking, commit to accepting what is told to you, and accept myth over fact. Check your thinking brain at the door and blindly accept the Bible as good, regardless of what it actually says.
Perfection has nothing to do with it.
2007-09-20 01:41:04 · answer #8 · answered by Pirate AM™ 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
it's not that your not perfect.
it's because 99.9% of you don't even come remotly close
85% of you don't know hardly anything about your faith or it's history or even what's in the bible.
50% deny more of it than your willing to admit to.
100% of you treat your religion as a moral buffee, taking only what you like and rejecting the rest.
so tell me whats worse?....the one who beleives there's a god, but feels supieror to him by only taking what he likes of his word
or the guy who takes none because there is none?
2007-09-20 01:42:01 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
You guys are the ones holding everyone else to those standards. So expect to be called out if you don't follow them.
2007-09-20 01:46:04 · answer #10 · answered by Cap'n Zeemboo 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋