Can anyone disprove Judaism's basic claims ?

Question

ie Judaism claims the Jewish people received the Torah at Sinai, that the Exodus from Egypt occurred, that prophecy of people such Moses and Abraham occurred? How can one disprove the national history of another nation without postive proof to the contrary?

Answer 1

Because my Jon said so, and everyone knows my Jon is better than your Jon.

Answer 2

There is considerable evidence that :
The Old testament was created as the result of everchanging writings of the Jewish people that lived in the hills area of Jericho . ( Older writings include references to the wife of God and His children .)
There is minor evidence of the three plagues of Egypt and of a small tribe ( Maybe 100 to 300 people ) of Jewish people having ventured into Egypt , having been enslaved , and then freed , by the Egyptians .
The "Receiving" of the Torah "From God" at Sinai is a religious belief that is a matter of faith and can not be proved , although there is some proof of a ceremony at that place within the suggested time frame .
The Old Testament is well noted for it's exaggeration ( Fisherman Tales ) when it wanted to make a point . Revered people are said to have been 100's of years old . A small tribe was said to be the entire nation . You must look at the Old testament in light of writing styles such as exaggeration . As well, you must consider it to have been a document that was open to change and evolution until groups of Jewish leaders decided to "freeze" certain entries . This is why new discoveries such as the Dead Sea Scrolls are not included .
The prophecy of Moses and Abraham are yet to be validated and are also a matter of faith .
JewishGirl , there is a third alternative :
A combination of the two you suggested . Yes, a charmer ( or group of chamers , or dictators) covininced the people they received a book straight from God ( Just like the new testament , the book of Mormon , etc.) and they DID pass this on to their children ( who are very easy to brainwash / install mis-information to .)

Answer 3

Disproving Judaism is not the question we need to ask, the question should be what is Judaism ?

It is my belief that Judaism is religion based upon the teaching of Moses and the Prophets.

You answered your own question, but your eyes do not see the answer.

1. Sinai mean "of Sin"
2. Joseph son of Jacob became a great Egyptian ruler.
3. Jesus went to Egypt as a child.
4. Moses killed an Egyptian a fled from Egypt
5. Moses when he came down from Mt Sinai killed 3000 of his own people.
6. Moses waged war on many nations in the name of His God.
7. Jesus said as Moses lifted up the serpent in the "wilderness"
8. Jesus also said Moses gave you not that bread from heaven.
9. The Good News told us "for the law was given by Moses but grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ.

Is Jesus saying that Moses deceived the whole world ?

Revelation 13:14-18

Answer 4

You don't have to attempt to disprove it until it's proved. Now, prove the Jewish people received the Torah at Sinai, that the Exodus from Egypt occurred, and that the prophecies of Abraham and Moses occurred.

Answer 5

mmm, there are some things in the bible that can't be proven, such as if certain people like abraham existed, because they were unimportant people and would not have left any records. there are certain things that probably occurred, based of archaeological record. there are certain things that probably did not occur, based on common sense. the one unique thing about the torah is its claim that not one individual but a whole nation saw G-d at sinai and were commanded to keep the torah and pass the knowledge of the event down to their children, who would transmit it to their children, and so on. either some real slick charmer managed to convince a whole country who had no clue about sinai or the torah that their ancestors had received a holy book from G-d but for some reason did not think this was important enough to tell their children about, or something odd truly did occur to the israelites to make them believe they had experienced G-d, and they did transmit this knowledge down to their descendants who have never forgotten about it.

Answer 6

Very good question. There are lots of archeological support towards the claims that the Israelites were lead out of Egypt by Moses, the Torah was given at Sinai and other aspects of the Old Testament. It would be very difficult to disprove these findings.

Answer 7

What does it matter? If you aren't Jewish, why do you have to concern yourself with their beliefs? For that matter, why do you have to disprove the national history of any country - with or without positive proof to the contary? The events you are talking about took place so long ago that it really doesn't matter at this point if they happened exactly as modern believers say. The point is, that is a basic tenet of their religion. Why would you want to destroy it?

Answer 8

Had you said this before 1823, you might not have gotten much of a debate BUT since Egyptian hieroglyphics have been disciphered, not much of the hebrew claims to HISTORY or EVENTS in their culture relates itself to actual REALITY.

Want positive proof that much of what ancient hebrews claimed to be truth, study ancient egyptian history, it's faith, it's culture and you may find out much of hebrew history is either history or it's own peoples, lies or literature. The one CLEAR fact which they record is of an INFERIOR entity they call Yahveh (Jehovah) who is so behaviorally flawed THIS person with a one degree in psychology doesn't need but 2 seconds to recognize it. Most people DON'T because they have a hard time discerning their own bad behaviors as it is and are not AWARE of this in their "God"........

Answer 9

Well, where is that original Torah it must have been a document worth saving?

And Moses and his trek?

You know what, there is no positive proof either way, so let's just go with the family clan tales. And Muhammad's kin will want the same courtesy.

Answer 10

Can you disprove the existance of the flying spaghetti monster? Rule # 1 of critical thinking that the onus always falls upon proof rather than disproof. The rational behind this is simple and elegant: relying upon disproof does not preclude the existance of multiple conflicting arguments whereas relying upon proof does.

Answer 11

It is very hard to disprove things. Try to disprove the existence of the invisible pink unicorn that lives in my garage. If you cannot, does that mean you have to believe it?

You would not do it. It would not be rational to do that.

That's why the burden of proof is always on the positive claimant.