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Paul--(AKA Saul the murderer) relies heavily on his Pharisee background to detail what he considers sinful--like women who refuse to cover their head with a veil--or women remaining silent in church.Yet Christ commanded his true followers from seeing sin in others until they were free on sin themselves.How long will the finger-pointers get away with willfully disobeying Christ--yet still pretend they are "Christians"???
1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel,
with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or
costly array;

10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be
in silence.

13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

2007-09-19 15:59:30 · 6 answers · asked by huffyb 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

6 answers

I sometimes wonder, they are called Christians but follow Paul's word instead of Jesus.They should be called Paulians.

2007-09-19 17:33:02 · answer #1 · answered by z_jepoh 4 · 2 0

My friend, I do not see any conflict between Paul's words and the words of Jesus. Each had their own tasks to accomplish and each did their jobs being guided by the same spirit [spirit of God].

In my view, Jesus was very general in many areas and Paul was more specific in details in similar areas and in some that Jesus did not really expound on. Jesus taught tho the Jews mostly while Paul taught to the Gentiles and each had their own customs and ways of life. Many of the supposed conflicts it seems you see is because the Gentiles did not have the same dress code and the same status in positions between the husband and wife that the Jews were taught and saw as the norm. It is written that the laws were given to the Jews only and not to another nation.

The 10, 11, 12, etc you did list are in fact all facts from the recorded words of the Bible and Jesus stated that every word was important when He resisted the temptation of the Devil. In Genesis the woman is put under the authority of the husband. In Proverbs it talks of a married woman who does with good works put on display Godliness.

Did Paul really insist a woman wear a veil or did he not say the the hair is a covering that displays that a woman is under the authority of a man? Please study those verses again my friend.

2007-09-19 16:58:34 · answer #2 · answered by cjkeysjr 6 · 1 1

Didn't you know that MOST of bible's scripture is God's word (Divine inspiration)?

Whether we follow Jesus' or Paul's teachings, it's still God's words (Were still following God's own words).

Though, I follow Jesus' one mostly (I think it's way more important and interesting). I find some of Paul's teachings judgmental and unfair--I agree with you on that.

And these verses you listed are Paul's personal opinions.

2007-09-19 23:27:58 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Now Huffy surely you understand scriptural authority is not the same thing as "sacred"?

Also in most of those verses you cited Paul was offering personal opinions. Other people perhaps took his words too literately? Blame human folly?

I suspect other sections of the early church did allow women to preach and teach.

I say that Paul was offering a personal opinion as advice to Timothy cos for one thing he stresses its his view ... this is more obvious in the greek version but I might bore everyone if I explain every technical detail of the grammar?

2007-09-19 20:23:29 · answer #4 · answered by J V 6 · 1 2

Paul wasn't against the women. The men in the church were against the women. Paul was just trying to get the women to do those things to keep peace in the church. Paul taught everything according to the way Jesus taught it. That is one of the reasons Jesus had Saul change his name to Paul

2007-09-19 16:13:38 · answer #5 · answered by Tommiecat 7 · 0 2

Aye, matey. Paul could not sell his hallucination story (nor his redefinition of Jesus' purpose) to the folks who were actually present and had heard Jesus' sermons (except other leaders of the new church empire).

2007-09-19 16:14:29 · answer #6 · answered by Unkie 4 · 0 1

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