Atheists: Why do you believe it takes more faith to believe in God than to believe something came from nothing

Question

It will always be inevitably possible to argue and ask "Who created God." Because the argument is unending. Even if we knew that answer the next questions would be, "Who created that which created God." and so forth.

Answer 1

Too drunk to understand this question.

Answer 2

actually, I believe we've always had something here, just not on this side of existence.

one day it was just movin along it crashed into us (say like a missile towards a big battleship) and "POW" an explosion ripped open a whole in the side of the boat.

that explosion is just moving really really slow.


question is. Where did the missile come from?

by GOD? or was it always there?....... heading toward us.....

or are the missile and us, more like ripples on two lakes?

one lake right side up the other upside down, and do these ripples crash into each other?

that's where math seems to be leading us, but guess what............ somewhere in the mix of the math, infinite possibilities arise from time to time.......within that area, GOD can exist and GOD can be the reason we are here,

but we also have the possibility God doesn't exist and he doesn't care.


get this............... those possibilities are both happening at the same time.

hows that for a new twist on things?

you should learn more about string theory instead of chasing old outdated ghosts that will get your point nowhere.

I'm agnostic, but feel closer to god than ever before!!!
through string theory.
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oh and I believe this because the math works.
the numbers don't change,
but the bible (god's word) changes from publisher to publisher and from interpretation to interpretation

thought for the day:
why is it called the king james VERSION?
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sky- the clock IS a sign of evolution.
Human evolution
as we evolved (intelligently) , so did our tools and what we where able to create with them

Answer 3

Since theists believe that God is everything, and that God came from nothing, they are actually claiming much more than atheists are.

Besides, if you studied the theory of the big bang you will see that it does not say that "something" came from "nothing". Indeed, it is completely consistent with physics to say there has ALWAYS been something, and there have never been a "time" when there is nothing.

At the very bottom of, theists say that the universe is so complicated, it HAD to have been created. On the other hand, they say that God is MORE complicated than the universe. Applying that logical rule they have applied, that means that God is more dependent on another "creator" than the universe itself.

I completely agree there is an unanswered question as to how (or perhaps even why) the big bang "banged". That does not mean however, that without having that answer yet, we need to plug in god.

Answer 4

Why should I believe in an invisible man who cares about mixing two different types of cloth (Leviticus), when there is a universe out there of billions of galaxies and probably life?

Humans are not the center of the universe. Reality doesn't play by the games of antiquity. Religion is for social control. And evolution is both a fact and a theory.

I don't think something came from nothing, but I could be proven wrong. It may be impossible to know what came before the Big Bang, as physical laws may have been completely different. But I'm not about to fill the void of knowledge with something as mundane as religion.

Answer 5

Who said that something came from nothing? The mathematics show that infinite universes are being generated, ours is just a single one. Even if this is a leap of intellect, there is every indication that the univers is expanding out from a given point, and overwhelming evidence that the world is 4+billion years old and that evolution occured. This does not take faith as it rests on facts.

On the other hand, God said he created the world, but there is no evidence for it. He said that the world was destroyed by a flood - still no evidence. Tower of babel, exodus - both have no evidence. Birth and Crucifixion of his son - no evidence. Notice a pattern here?

Answer 6

Why would you foolishly insist that the beginning of everything is in fact necessary... especially all at one moment in time? Couldn't the "Big Bang" have been simply the latest in a series of similar big bang events occurring all over an infinitely vast universe?

Isn't it a much more plausible concept to accept the there has always been an existence of basic elements and that they have merely taken new shape and form from time to time - somewhat like a bigger version of evolutionary change that includes all things, living and non?

If you can accept the plausibility, (silliness really,) of a god-created universe, you can certainly accept this as being an equally plausible possibility - it has, at the very least, some basis in scientifically accepted fact - it has a possibility well beyond the fantastic stories of a few ancient books and a desperate desire that they're telling the truth.

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Answer 7

Hey lettuce are you okay, here let me help you up, shake it off buddy, here take a drink of water, did you catch your breath, let me brush the dirt off your clothes. Wow you need to be more careful, when you pose a Q's to atheists you really got to be more intellectual. I don't know why you used the word faith, I mean people who believe in science just don't operate on faith. Now I know there are sheeple who believe in the science and then say they have faith too, but they're enigmas and must be very needy. What you should do is read Duck Phup answer, not all at once, you might have to come back to it a couple of times, try and let that sink in okay buddy.

Answer 8

Exactly. That is the point! No matter how you slice it, even with God, something, somewhere, came out of nothing (whether it was the universe, God, God's creator, etc.), which means it doesn't require faith to assume that it is the case...because it is a major irreconciable hole in the human's ability to make sense of reality. Regardless of perspective, either something came from nothing, or, somehow, this was completely bypassed through semantic means (e.g. something was eternal, be the universe, God, God's creator), or that existence, in of it self, never was, is not, and never will be, and all is simply an illusion of something where there is truly nothing.

Not faith, just speculation.

Answer 9

For me, 'God' coming from nothing is harder to accept than anything else coming from nothing.

God's salesmen make absolute and specific assertions of 'his' character and ‘his’ existence.
Atheists on the other hand only agree on one thing: there are no invisible sky things.
Our other beliefs are as varied as are the number of gods that have been worshiped throughout history and discarded as better salesmen come along pushing a new product ... which is the old product dressed in newer, kitschier and gaudier wrapping paper doing the same tricks and performing the same magic (LOL).
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Answer 10

Whether you believe in a Creator, or whether you put your faith in science...
Sooner or later, it does come down to FAITH.
Personally, I can put my faith in both God, AND Science, having concluded that religion deals with what is spiritual, while science deals with what is physical. And never the twain have met (nor are ever likely to).
The big difference is, while God is immutable, Science is, and must be, willing to change whenever there is new evidence, or a re-interpretation of old evidence.
So far, I have not seen enough "compelling evidence" to convince me that evolution is a fact...although I have not yet ruled it out as a possibility.
I only wish "evolutionists" would be more honest in what they tell us, so that we could have a true base to build on.

God bless you!!

Answer 11

Because we don't believe that something came from NOTHING. We believe that what is existing now has always existed in one form or another. (Just not necessarily in the form it is in now.) It's just that after eons and eons of existence, eventually things came together in such a way as to cause the big bang, which set everything in motion to become what it is now.
It is easier to us to believe that matter has always existed, then to believe that a magical supernatural being (who has always existed) "poofed" everything else into existence.