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Bible had lots of manipulations by man, therefore we don't consider it as it was revealed at the time of Jesus, peace be upon him. In Islam, Quran was protected by God as it's the last episode in religion with Muhammad (after all the prophets, Moses and Jesus)...

However, god exists and doesn't need a book to prove Him...


Please read my words carefully:
If you see footmark in the sand, you'll say that someone passed from here...
If you see a piece of dog sh*t on the ground, you'll say that a dog passed from here...
So what about the enormous universe, the sky, stars, planets, earth and all the beauty in it, doesn't it lead to that someone made it?!!!

Some people say that everything is created by itself after the big-bang... I won't ask you about what caused the big-bang, but I'll ask you a simple question:
If you take all the letters of the alphabet, multiples of them, and you threw them randomly on the floor. Do you expect (by a chance of one in infinity) to get a poem like shakespear's??!!

Can't you see how organized our universe is, the planets, the eco-system on earth, look even in your own body... Can you control your heart-beat? Can you control your breath while you're sleeping? Who stopped your eye-lashes from growing after reaching a certain length? Who told the baby turtles to move towards the sea and not to the earth after they come out of their eggs? Who taught the bird how to make nests?

My friend, think with your heart and brain. If you're still lost, think about the following:

Do you know how to play safe?
Non-believer's case:
If there's no God and you do all what you want in life, then nothing will happen to you after life. But if there was God and you were mistaken, then you'll blame yourself FOREVER...

Believer's case:
If there's God and I followed His commands in life, then I'll be in Heaven after life FOREVER. But if there was no God and we're mistaken, then nothing bad will happen to us after life...

Now you know how to play-safe, in case you're not convinced?

2007-09-21 23:51:56 · answer #1 · answered by toon 5 · 0 0

He does give us some things that we can start with.

For one, we the Bible says that God would give people the Holy Spirit and power. If you go to a Pentecostal or Apostolic church you will most likely find some people with gifts of the Holy Spirit. If some one has the gift of prophecy you can see if God will give you a message so you will know that God knows every thing about you (you if you have a need to be healed, some one there may have a gift of healing that can help you.

2007-09-19 11:56:03 · answer #2 · answered by tim 6 · 0 1

Obviously using the Bible as proof is a circular argument, just as using science to disprove God is circular and irrelevant. It requires faith to believe in either God, or in creation as merely a random chance/accident. The design evident in nature is such that it is unavoidable and undeniable. If the orbit of the earth was off by one degree, all life on earth would perish. If the earth spun faster and days were shorter then all vegetation would starve from lack of sunlight, or if it spun
slower and days were longer vegetation would dry up and die from too much. If the sun were not consistent in temperature, which scientists cannot explain, we would all die. If the moon was closer to the earth, the tides would cause havoc. If there were no atmosphere to deflect the harmful radiation from the sun, we would die. If the enzyme that causes blood clotting ever had to evolve, life would have never existed, all things would have bled to death from the very first being to crawl from the ooze to the very first human being that scratched themselves on a thorn.


It requires more faith in all honesty, to believe in random chance being the cause for creation than to believe that God created it. Omnipotent = all powerful...and an all powerful God can do anything, in any manner that suits God. All powerful is power over and above anything and everything in and out of time. Omniscient = all knowing, self explanatory...no human can claim this and will never be able to. Omnipresent = ever present...God is always with us...and is everywhere at once.

Random chance is exactly that...random. No one can prove it because it is random...there is no thought or logic behind randomness...no order and no pattern. That's because it is random. If there is pattern and design as we can see prominently displayed in creation...geometric shapes...functional design in living beings, specific purposes for those biological functions such as procreation, and specific methods for the creation of every aspect of life, then random chance has nothing to do with it. Random is random for a reason...so you cannot know or demonstrate how things happen...because it is all random. If life happened randomly, then everything about it would follow suit. If life happened randomly then where did all the order come from? All the specific purpose? Men and women were created to make human babies...not monkeys...and vice versa. Birds fly, cats meow, horses eat grass, and somehow grow large and strong from it, and when called to do so, charge into battle fearlessly. Yet if we ate grass or hay, we'd die from malnutrition. There are limitless examples of pattern in nature. This is not random chance. It is purposed.

God is the designer...with Him, there is logic, purpose, pattern, and evidence to support this...we can see it every day, all based on what He knows to be right and best for us. He gave us His word, the Bible, as a signpost, and a guide for our lives...a rulebook by which all things in life can be tested. It is not random, and neither is creation.

God uses science because He is the ultimate architect of science. Scientists that deny God and do not use His word, simply deny the first and greatest of all scientists. God's creation is proof of Him. All we see around us every day...in what He made...all the beauty, even amid the corruption that has entered creation by our sin...there is still beauty.

There is more evidence for God in life than any other idol man can dream up.

Take Care and God Bless!

2007-09-19 12:28:45 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Of course not. There is absolutely no proof that is both objective and logical that God exists.

There is also no proof, either objective or logical, that proves that God does *not* exist.

The bible may engender faith within you (as it did me), but it is *not* scientific or logical proof of God. It is a book *about* God, and belief that it is in reality the word of God is something that can *only* be arrived at by faith.

Jim, http://www.life-after-harry-potter.com

2007-09-19 20:45:01 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

its recorded human history, just like the encyclopedia tells us: the dodo bird lived on earth and is now extinct and you believe that record yes? the following txt was copied from encyclopedia:>>>>>>>>>>>


The dodo has been extinct since the mid-to-late 17th century. It is commonly used as the archetype of an extinct species because its extinction occurred during recorded human history, and was directly attributable to human activity. The phrase "as dead as a dodo" means undoubtedly and unquestionably dead.

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2007-09-19 12:44:10 · answer #5 · answered by camero 4 · 1 0

God exists. He doesn't need the bible. We do. Therefore it was written, for us to reference and meditate on. Just one of the ways God communicates with us.

2007-09-19 11:56:31 · answer #6 · answered by VW 6 · 2 1

No, it's a circular argument, and a good example of how if you start with a false premise you can prove anything.

What you belief is up to you, but belief does not change the truth.

2007-09-19 11:53:55 · answer #7 · answered by Pirate AM™ 7 · 3 0

The canon of the Old Testament that Catholics use is based on the text used by Alexandrian Jews, a version known as the "Septuagint" and which came into being around 280 B.C. as a translation of then existing texts from Hebrew into Greek by 72 Jewish scribes (the Torah was translated first, around 300 B.C., and the rest of Tanach was translated afterward).

The Septuagint is the Old Testament referred to in the Didache or "Doctrine of the Apostles" (first century Christian writings) and by Origen, Irenaeus of Lyons, Hippolytus, Tertullian, Cyprian of Carthage, Justin Martyr, St. Augustine and the vast majority of early Christians who referenced Scripture in their writings. The Epistle of Pope Clement, written in the first century, refers to the Books Ecclesiasticus and Wisdom, analyzed the book of Judith, and quotes sections of the book of Esther that were removed from Protestant Bibles.


In the 16th c., Luther, reacting to serious abuses and clerical corruption in the Latin Church, to his own heretical theological vision (see articles on sola scriptura and sola fide), and, frankly, to his own inner demons, removed those books from the canon that lent support to orthodox doctrine, relegating them to an appendix. Removed in this way were books that supported such things as prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45), Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7), intercession of dead saints (2 Maccabees 15:14), and intercession of angels as intermediaries (Tobit 12:12-15). Ultimately, the "Reformers" decided to ignore the canon determined by the Christian Councils of Hippo and Carthage.

The Latin Church in no way ignored the post-Temple rabbincal texts. Some Old Testament translations of the canon used by the Latin Church were also based in part on rabbinical translations, for example St. Jerome's 5th c. Latin translation of the Bible called the Vulgate.

The "Masoretic texts" refers to translations of the Old Testament made by rabbis between the 6th and 10th centuries; the phrase doesn't refer to ancient texts in the Hebrew language. Some people think that the Masoretic texts are the "original texts" and that, simply because they are in Hebrew, they are superior.

Some Protestants claim that the "Apocrypha" are not quoted in the New Testament so, therefore, they are not canonical.
Going by that standard of proof, we'd have to throw out Joshua, Judges, Ruth, 2 Kings, 1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, Lamentations, Obadiah, Nahum, and Zephaniah because none of these Old Testament Books are quoted in the New Testament.


But there is a bigger lesson in all this confusion over not only the canon but proper translation of the canon , especially considering that even within the Catholic Church there have been differing opinions by individual theologians about the proper place of the deuterocanonicals (not that an individual theologian's opinions count for Magisterial teaching!).
The lesson, though, is this: relying on the "Bible alone" is a bad idea; we are not to rely solely on Sacred Scripture to understand Christ's message. While Scripture is "given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16-17), it is not sufficient for reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness.
It is the Church that is the "pillar and ground of Truth" (1 Timothy 3:15)!
Jesus did not come to write a book; He came to redeem us, and He founded a Sacramental Church through His apostles to show us the way.
It is to them, to the Church Fathers, to the Sacred Deposit of Faith, to the living Church that is guided by the Holy Spirit, and to Scripture that we must prayerfully look.

2007-09-20 13:04:21 · answer #8 · answered by cashelmara 7 · 0 0

The Bible is not "proof" of God's existence. It is testimony to a particular revelation of God, a revelation that can be discerned to have a certain theological coherence.

2007-09-19 11:54:13 · answer #9 · answered by Timaeus 6 · 1 2

Religion comes down to:

A is true according to B because B says A is true, and if B says it, it is true, since A wrote B.

Ever seen a dog chasing its tail? That's religious "reasoning".

2007-09-19 11:59:48 · answer #10 · answered by Lex Fok B.M.F. 3 · 2 1

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