Do you want a person that may be setting themselves up for a real one?
Alkies often plan their slip, consciously or unconsciously, up to three years in advance.
10th Step is the perpetual look into excuses we use to justify and blame.
2007-09-19 12:23:49
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answered by cordsoforion 5
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The mention of chapter two is one of the correct responses - it's just one opinion.
[ "We know that while the alcoholic keeps away from drink, as he may do for months or years, he REACTS much like other men. We are equally positive that once he takes any alcohol WHATEVER into his system, something happens both in the bodily and mental sense..."]. He is NOT like other men, he REACT'S much like other men.
[ re: The Doctors Opinion - 'We believe, and so suggested a few years ago, that the action of alcohol on these chronic alcoholics is a manifestation of an allergy; that the phenomenon of craving is limited to this class and never occurs in the average temperate drinker. These allergic types can never safely use alcohol IN ANY FORM AT ALL ; ' ... ].
Personally, I don't need a 'friend' for or as an AA sponsor. I need an experienced sponsor who has suffered, and will suffer, and even still does suffer, if untreated, from the exact same malady as me and has found the solution and remains willing to do the footwork that IS the solution - A recovered chronic alcoholic. What Bill calls 'an alcoholic of our type'.
Sandy Beach say's
"...If you're new, there's nothing to this. All we ask is
1. don't drink ( it's harder than hell to have a spiritual awakening while you're throwing up in the toilet )
2. turn your ENTIRE will & life over to the care of God
3. get rid of ALL of your old idea's. Simple, huh?..."
This is a fatal disease. This could be your life on the line.
Best wishes.
2007-09-22 19:12:21
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answered by trevorsdad2002 2
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Either your sponsor is not a real alcoholic or he is an alcoholic who still drinks. Do you want either for a sponsor? Fire his Butt and get someone else to sponsor you.
Here's why -
If you consult AA's book, the book they were actually named after, "Alcoholics Anonymous" (or "Big Book") you will learn that a real alcoholic is allergic to ANY amount - even .5% (The typical percentage allowed in "non-alcoholic" beer ) - the same way someone allergic to say LATEX will react even if the only cover one finger with a latex glove - or someone allergic to strawberries eats only a tiny strawberry.
The term "nonalcoholic" as used by beer companies is a misnomer. It is more a function of "labeling requirements" than it is an "ingredient issue."
The only reason the beer company gets to print "Non-Alcoholic" on their label is due to FDA labeling requirements that lets low percentages through a threshold loophole for consumer information purposes.
In a real alcoholic the inability to stop is the result in a craving for more alcohol that is the physical result of a buildup of chemicals in his liver (acetone) because his pancreatic and liver functions are not up to par. This abnormally high level of the chemical and the resultant "craving" is abnormal and hence fits the definition of "allergy" since only roughly ten percent of the world population is deficient in their ability to metabolize alcohol properly.
Did this happen to your sponsor? If not he’s not even an alcoholic - not by the AA “Our description of the alcoholic” found in the first 43 pages of the book “Alcoholics Anonymous” anyway. You would do well to find out. It might save your life to know.
Your own Big Book from your own fellowship offers this:
"We know that while the alcoholic keeps away
from drink, as he may do for months or years,
he reacts much like other men. We are equally
positive that once he takes any alcohol whatever
into his system, something happens, both in the
bodily and mental sense, which makes it virtually
impossible for him to stop"
(Alcoholics Anonymous, 22:3)
"ANY ALCOHOL WHATEVER" - even .5%.
So this is why I must conclude that either your sponsor is not the real McCoy or he is still drinking. Either way - forgive him - but dump him.
I hope that helps. I REALLY do.
Peace,
Danny S
http://recoveredalcoholic.blogspot.com/
2007-09-19 11:22:27
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answered by Anonymous
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first off, go do a 10 step with somebody other than your sponsor about it, it sounds like this is eating at you, looking at all your other questions. then, with a clear mind, after getting rid of your resentment & fear, talk to your sponsor about it, without judgment, and pick another sponsor, temporarily if need be. you cannot tie your own sobriety to another person, as this is bound to fail. keep working the steps, doing a 10 step as often and as soon as you get in fear.
2007-09-23 00:32:21
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answered by Anonymous
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Why not get a different sponsor if it bugs you so much? Being in AA, I'm sure he's heard all of the propaganda about NA beer and "relapses" and he understands that it would take more than an NA beer to get him there.
2007-09-19 04:16:13
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answered by Andy S 5
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he,knows it is wrong,because it has SOME alcoholbut some brands have 0% so i do not know
but i bet he does!!!
good luck,no matter what he does even if he is your sponsor do not drink.
2007-09-19 04:59:06
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answered by Anonymous
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People like the taste of beer without the alcohol so what is the problem? He maybe should not in front of you but on his own time i see nothing wrong with it. is all we drink these days.
2007-09-19 03:45:23
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answered by Aloha_Ann 7
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You MUST. This is a terrible example
2007-09-19 03:37:41
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answered by Experto Credo 7
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