What would UF police do if they had an all out protest at kerrys speech? If they use six cops and a taser for one kid. How much force would they use to stop a large crowd from a noisy protest?
2007-09-19 03:18:09 · 11 answers · asked by Thomas C 2 in Politics & Government ➔ Law Enforcement & Police
I was in the Marines and I worked as a body guard in south Florida for celebrities to princes and etc. Believe me I have had my share of problems regularly with drug attics drunks and all kinds of crazy people. But we never used weapons on anyone unless drawn upon. But with proper training we knew how to handle a situation as a professional. What this comes down to is that these cops are unable to handle a situation without using a weapon on a small college student that was scared. The question is why six of them and why a taser? When all they had to do is put him in a submission and take it from there. That only takes one properly trained police officer for this startled student.
2007-09-19 17:04:48 · update #1
Because the Taser is "non-lethal" sometimes some cops use them to punish people in certain situations.
I know smarty-pants kids are annoying, but cops should be professional at all times.
2007-09-26 11:33:35 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hello Thomas C.
Your combination of background and attitude are refreshing. As someone who has been responsible for night club operations as a younger man in the 70s and 80s, I've had to face and at times control irate and explosive patrons. We had Doormen for this purpose but in a flash situation, sometimes you're there and they are not, at least not immediately. These situations were always complicated by the person's excessive alcohol and in many cases drug use. In most cases these problems occurred when this person attempted to enter our club after a long night of 'partying' elsewhere and was told he could not.
Being in the alcohol and entertainment business, our licenses could and would be revoked were we to have excessive situations involving police intervention. This made it a necessity for us to control these situations in ways which assured our own safety, the safety of other patrons and the safety of the individual(s) involved in the incident. There were also times when weapons were involved on the part of the individual. While we did at times have to involve the police, it never happened to the excess where we lost our licenses or were shut down.
We did not have the options of deadly force, tasers, batons or mace. We also rarely had more than two or three of us to control the situation, in many cases less.
All I'm saying is it can and is being done every night without major injuries to the offending party or those attempting to control him.
The police are often put in harms way and do, at time, have no choice but to use deadly or extreme force but men and women trained in the apprehension of offenders should be the best at controlling dangerous situations using the least force. Unfortunately this often is not what we see happening.
Those with the opinion that people should not break the rules if they don't want to be hurt or even killed forget they are talking about their fellow citizens, countrymen, neighbors and even son's and daughters who in most cases just screwed up, and are not criminals.
The lessons learned in the past like 'The Kent State Massacre' among others seem to have some how been filtered out of the minds of those who were so outraged at the time they occurred.
Regards,
Lenny.
2007-09-26 22:16:27 · answer #2 · answered by Lenny 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
A whole bunch of OC gas and the surrounding law enforcement agencies. And it would be over very soon too.
A lot of people think that it should only take two or three officers to subdue another person. From experience I know it can take a lot more. Most persons criticizing this have no idea what was happening or what it takes to do that job. I ask everyone that has doubts to tr a little experiment with a friend and see how easy it is to just get another person's hands behind their back while they are actively resisting and do it without hurting (injuring) them.
It is not even close to easy.
2007-09-19 04:29:03 · answer #3 · answered by Charlie Fingers 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Thomas,
That student Andrew Meyer wasn't a timid mouse. He was heard yelling "What did I do ?"
If the cops told me I was leaving I'd say certainly as I was walking out.
Meyer was vertically bouncing. An staying out of position where they could get there hands on him.
A large African American Officer seemed to use pushing techniques. Why an Akido Arm, Wrist Bar, Judo or Juit-Jitsu Arm Lock wan't employed I don't know. I have seen them demonstrated and they are very effective in gaining your cooperation.
Send the UF Police Force a Resume They could Use you !
2007-09-25 15:02:39 · answer #4 · answered by Will 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If you are going to protest...which is great...then there are certain rules to do so....this clown didn't follow the rules.
State your objection to the message that is being delivered then relinquish the ground. Guy didn't do it....just kept yammering.
When police come up to you and ask you to relinquish and you don't do so....remembering you are on private property....then you get to be thrown out. If you resist...which he was obviously doing...yelling screaming and started to debate the police as to why they were throwing him out...then a little more force is used. When you become combative and it takes a number of police to remove you and YOU escalate the situation to a point where they must restrain your action (read taser) then it's your BAD not the police.
Play by the rules and you get to make your statement and deliver your message. Screw the rules and you get yourself tasered.
2007-09-19 03:47:55 · answer #5 · answered by malter 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
They'd call in S.W.A.T. teams from the surrounding municipalities like any other police department.
The fact that it took six cops to hold that bastard down should tell you WHY it was eventually necessary to tase him.
EDIT: Good grief, man. With all the credentials you laid out in your additional details, you should damn well know better than to have the stance you have on this issue. If you have been in this situation before, (and ALL of us have been there,) then you know this kid was not scared, he was putting it all on for the audience and the cameras, and you know whatever was coursing through his veins was making him strong enough to fight six cops. Come on. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck, and neither did you. Be honest with yourself along with the rest of us.
2007-09-19 03:22:26 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 0⤋
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Apparently you haven't seen the whole story...
Understand the proper professionalism expected when posing questions to presidential candidates...
Nore understand the whens or hows of taser use...
Or understand how a physically resistive or combative individual should be restrained to prevent injury to him, officers, or the public.
Thats too bad.
:(
2007-09-19 03:29:12 · answer #7 · answered by Robert S 6 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Uf Police Department
2017-02-27 07:43:08 · answer #8 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Gulfbreeze agrees.
2007-09-26 23:24:31 · answer #9 · answered by gulfbreeze8 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Thank you. Wish someone like you had been handling that one.
2007-09-25 03:43:04 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋