so, i've heard theat Cain is still on the Earth. some documented history about some guy meeting him and standing face to face while he was riding on his horse or something..? But then if that is true, how did he survive the Noah's flood. Or is just his spirit here w/o a body ???
i would really like to know.
2007-09-18 17:27:16 · 17 answers · asked by Amy 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Cain is dead, my friend. People like to twist the Bible to make it sound like some kind of fairytale or spooky book. Just remember that if someone sees a spirit it's generally a demon. Scary I know but if you have Jesus, there is nothing to fear.
Just read the Bible and be comforted by God's words.
2007-09-18 17:30:26 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 5⤋
It is LDS Lore (and doctrine) that Cain survived the flood.
The story about some guy rebuking him, however, is obviously just a myth. Early apostles said a LOT of things, and 95% of it is classified under "erroneous personal opinion."
Heber C. Kimball and Jedediah M. Grant were both in the First Presidency for quite some time, yet you'd be quite hard-pressed to find any current General Authority that backs up some of their doctrines, revelations, prophecies, etc.
Genesis and 1 Corinthians are both very specific that only 8 people survived the flood: Noah, Shem, Japheth, Ham, and their respective wives.
2007-09-19 06:05:07 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
The story is in "Miracle of Forgiveness" by Pres. Kimball in the chapter about murder. It's been a while since I've read it, but it's a story of an early apostle riding a donkey. A man he describes as being very hairy and tall enough to look him in the eye while he was on the donkey began walking and talking with him.
I'd recommend reading it from the source. If it really was Cain and he's lived this long, I don't see how a little flood could kill him.
2007-09-19 06:03:44 · answer #3 · answered by Senator John McClain 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
I would imagine he is a spirit but I have heard that he was cursed to walk to Earth as a vagabond until Christ's Second Coming. Then Noah's flood wouldn't have been total so that probably isn't acurate.
Here's all the "official" doctrine:
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bd/c/6
Anything above and beyond that is most likely speculation. Study, ponder, and pray about it. Heavenly Father will direct you to the proper doctrine. The story you are refering to, as far as I remember, never specifically states that the large hairy man was Cain...
It is my current opinion that Cain died a long time ago. Since he won't be resurrected until after the Millenium on account of his wickedness, it is my opinion that he doesn't have a body currently. Therefore, he would be a spirit right now...
I was intrigued by what Annie said that he may be stuck here spiritually. He did ally himself with Satan completely and, therefore, would be with him. Satan and his followers are currently here on Earth so that would make sense too.
2007-09-18 18:03:34 · answer #4 · answered by Chris B 4 · 4⤊ 1⤋
I've heard a lot of three Nephite stories, but I have never heard anything about Cain still walking the earth, except in videogames and comic books.
Christ had granted immortality on the three Nephites, but that's because of their righteousness. I don't believe he'd grant immortality to a person like Cain was, and Satan holds absolutely no power over life or death.
The last I heard, Cain is dead and likely in Outer Darkness with all the other sons of perdition.
2007-09-18 17:36:32 · answer #5 · answered by Lex 7 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Well, John the Beloved is still alive, and so are the Three Nephites, so maybe Cain is with them. I have no opinion on the matter of Cain, so I will just wait until I die, then look him up. If he isn't there, then I will know he is still here. lol.
2007-09-19 13:02:53 · answer #6 · answered by . 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I agree with phrog. The man in the story claimed that he was Cain; this does not mean that he was Cain.
Also, I found the following statement on the Church's official website, from President Spencer W. Kimball: "Cain was born, but terminated his life in shrouds of obscurity." To me, this suggests that Cain must have died.
2007-09-19 11:25:31 · answer #7 · answered by all star 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Cain is dead and is consigned to spirit prison where he will wait and not resurrect until the last of the resurrection. Then he will return to the realms of Lucifer whom he chose to follow.
While it is true that Satan and his followers roam the earth causing trouble for the followers of Christ (opposition in all things), it is my belief that only those spirits from the premortal existence that chose to follow Lucifer are engaged in that function while those that have lived and died are held up in spirit prison and therefore cannot be engaged in giving us a hard time here on earth.
2007-09-19 06:21:53 · answer #8 · answered by rac 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I heard a story of President Kimball encountering Cain, but I can't remember the details.
While serving my mission in Brazil, more than one minister preached that the chupacabras was really Cain.
2007-09-18 19:49:49 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
And that is exactly how these types of stories are innocently
perpetuated........
Mormon FOLKLORE holds that Cain was cursed with immortality and still walks the earth today.
This is NOT mentioned in Mormon scripture and is apparently based largely on an account by early Mormon apostle David W. Patten. Patten claimed to have encountered a very tall, hairy, dark-skinned man in Tennessee who said that he was Cain, that he had earnestly sought death but was denied it, and that his mission
was to destroy the souls of men.
Patten's story is quoted in Spencer W. Kimball's very popular book The Miracle of Forgiveness, which is
how most Mormons are aware of it.
Some have even connected Cain, as described by Patten, with Bigfoot.
Miracle of Forgiveness... Spencer W. Kimball page 127
Intro to this story:
" On the sad character Cain, an interesting story comes to us from Lycurgus A. Wilson's book on the life of David W. Patten. From the book I quote an extract from a letter by Abraham O. Smoot giving his recollection of David Patten's account of meeting a "very remarkable person who had represented himself as being Cain." story follows.....
Notice that both Patten and Kimball indicate that the man himself claimed to be Cain.......not that he was. No general authority has ever said any more than that it was a story in Patten's journals and that a man claimed he was Cain. It was, a long time ago included in the 'interesting facts' section of seminary lessons, but was removed before my time (which is in itself substantial in length) due to it's spurious origins and peoples' repeating it as if it were truth.
2007-09-19 06:36:19 · answer #10 · answered by phrog 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋
I have never heard that. THe only people I have ever heard about still being alive are John the Beloved and the Three Nephites- John was granted his wish to not die because of his faithfulness to the savior and the Three Nephites because of their Righteousness.
2007-09-19 07:41:52 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋