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Every Rosh Hashanah, we eat a pomegranate. Its New Years on G-d's calendar.

Every New Years, we are told to eat a "new fruit" and the 1st Rosh Hashanah they were told by G-d to eat a POMEGRANATE.

Did you know there are 613 laws (mikvah) in the Torah?

And 613 was and is a very holy number to Jews/Messianics.

And the pomegranate has...... 613 seeds.

Yes, every pomegranate.

This is how G-d speaks.

But Christians are too busy giving their money to pastors and trimming the pagan Christmas tree to learn these things that they should.

So...is this a pretty clear sign from G-d?

Do you think this is how He speaks to us? I do...

2007-09-18 12:08:10 · 34 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

http://www.thetabernacleofdavid.org/613.htm

2007-09-18 12:08:42 · update #1

Sorry if I am a bit skeptical of a site that has a black snake with red glowing eyes for a logo, manuel...seems a tad demonic.

2007-09-18 12:20:08 · update #2

34 answers

I suggest you look up the word "midrash."
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2007-09-18 12:18:54 · answer #1 · answered by Hatikvah 7 · 3 1

Please, do not pass judgment on me and I will not pass judgment on you.

The "money" that you say Christians are "too busy giving to pastors" - is called a Tithe - it is in the Torah and the Bible. Instead of paying dues to be members of congregations, we take 10% out of every paycheck and offer it back to the L-RD G-d.

There is more to being a Christian, than you have obviously taken the time to learn. So, let me show you what I know about Judaism - because after all Jesus the Christ, and all His Disciples -- were and never denounced being Jews.

The two languages which are used in the original texts of the Bible and the Dead Sea Scrolls are Hebrew and Greek. Each has an alphabet in which each letter also has a corresponding numeric value. So, you can literally 'add' words together.

http://www.fivedoves.com/light/The_truth_that_Jesus_Christ_is_God.htm

2007-09-18 12:42:37 · answer #2 · answered by whathappentothisnation 3 · 0 1

the pomegranate does not always have exactly 613 seeds: its around 600, but the number will vary. it is an ancient fruit deeply embedded in the cultures that developed in the middle east.

all those 613 laws mustn't matter too much if Moses needed to distill them down to 10 commandments. if that's what god wanted, then it is patronizing to man, or at least to the Jews.

2007-09-18 12:22:43 · answer #3 · answered by Antena 3 · 0 1

Which came first - the 613 seeds in the pomegranate or the 613 laws in the Torah?

And which sad person had to count all those seeds??

An atheist

2007-09-18 12:13:19 · answer #4 · answered by Grotty Bodkin is not dead!!! 5 · 2 1

Persephone ate 6 seeds of the pomegranate when she was in the underworld, imprisoned by Hades. Usually the rule was Hades would not let anyone leave his kingdom who had eaten or drank anything there. Persephone's mother,The Earth, begged so much that Hades had pity and made a compromise. Persephone was to be his bride 1 month for every seed she ate,and could return to her mother the rest of the year. That is why the earth is cold and barren for 6 months,and then warm and fruitful for 6 months. Because of the sorrow of the earth at being separated from her daughter . This proves that the ancient Greeks were the one true Pantheon of Gods. Please worship them.

2007-09-18 12:19:02 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

I agree that the Laws of the Torah are something we should be aware of in our walk with Messiah Yeshua. His death and resurrection free us from the penalty (death) that those Laws brought on us. How then should we continue breaking them?

But, David, the Pomegranate....well...I'm sorry, but ..........I tend to associate it more with the Song of Solomon...........so does that mean God wants us to think about.......breasts? First time I saw one in a grocery store, well, I looked at my wife and she looked at me....after 32 years she knows me pretty well..........and we both started laughing......sorry I can't help it..........

I don't really see in the Scriptures where it says on Trumpets that we are to eat any certain fruit. Can you quote chapter and verse?

2007-09-18 16:55:03 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Post hoc ergo propter hoc (after this, therefore because of this).

This is the fallacy of assuming that A caused B simply because A happened prior to B. A favorite example: "Most rapists read pornography when they were teenagers; obviously, pornography causes violence toward women." The conclusion is invalid, because there can be a correlation between two phenomena without one causing the other. Often, this is because both phenomena may be linked to the same cause. In the example given, it is possible that some psychological factor -- say, a frustrated sex drive -- might cause both a tendency toward sexual violence and a desire for pornographic material, in which case the pornography would not be the true cause of the violence.

2007-09-18 12:13:25 · answer #7 · answered by James M 3 · 1 2

I was wondering how many there were, a few years ago; but my vision was a mess. So I e-mailed a Synagogue I was e-mailed back, from the Rabbi and another person, that there are 306 Commandments in the Torrah.
Getting others to take heed of this is rare. Some Catholics looked in their bible of removed lines and said there were only ten in it. In fact the Catholic church dose not even have the second Commandment. They pray to anyone they want, even dead parents. And the tenth is split into two commandments, so they can say they have ten.

2007-09-18 12:20:57 · answer #8 · answered by geessewereabove 7 · 1 2

Are you then bound by the Old Covenant?

I'm under the New and Eternal Covenant in Christ.

Next time I eat a Pomme- i'm going to count the seeds. I don't see 113 fitting in there, much less 613.

I'll check back with you if you're right.

2007-09-18 12:17:23 · answer #9 · answered by TEK 4 · 1 3

Let's do this:

Fly over here. Together, we'll go buy 10 of these fruit and count the seeds.

If it's indeed 613 in every one of them I'll reimburse you for your tickets, convert to your religion and give $10,000 to a charity of your choice.

If your claim is false, you'll realize your religion is false.

Fair enough?

2007-09-18 12:23:02 · answer #10 · answered by Dreamstuff Entity 6 · 5 2

Hey, I am a Muslim.

I have a lecture for everyone who wants proof of Almighty God. It is by the brilliant Muslim scholar, Dr. Zakir Naik. He proves Almighty God’s existence by using some of the many scientific verses in the Qur’an. Scientists are recently discovering these facts, but they were already in the Qur’an 1400 years ago! Please listen to the lecture. It is worth your time.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E2s14T6x5AM

Thank you for your time.

2007-09-18 13:37:37 · answer #11 · answered by asdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdadasdads 2 · 0 2

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