Why did the Bible have to be "changed" to make a "Protestant version" by Martin Luther ?

Question

Martin Luther took 7 books out of the Bible.

If the Bible was wrong for so many centuries then does that mean those Christians were misguided during those times ?

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Answer 1

Well, it's not that he really changed the bible. Clear is kinda right in saying it was malleable. At least it was when ML was protesting the Church.

At that time there were a couple of different versions of the "official canon" of the bible. People were still debating what books should be in there and what shouldn't.

When ML broke away, he chose the smaller "shorter version" of all the ones being debated. Later the Church decided on the longer version. After that it wasn't really considered malleable anymore, but set as official.

Answer 2

The Bible is a series of stories trying to show the moral way to live, and not a series of direct quotes by active participants. As such, no matter how the Bible is changed, so long as the general core of it stays the same, nobody can possibly be misguided by it.

The errors and misguiding comes from those who use the book literally, out of context and to pursue their own agendas...effectively using the Bible as a weapon against others. The error is not in the source, but in the interpretation. Luther is just another interpretation.

GL

Answer 3

Surprisingly, no answerer realized that your question itself is in error. Martin Luther definitely *did not* remove 7 books from the bible. The first bibles to be bound without the complete canon of books (according to the HarperCollins Bible Dictionary) were certain editions of the Geneva bible in 1599. This was not just the 1st English exclusion of these books, but the first exclusion known, period

Please do not blame Martin Luther for an act which he was not responsible. The unrestrained sectarianism which he initiated is scandal enough

Jim, not a Roman Catholic, http://www.jimpettis.com/wheel/

Answer 4

The Bible is a collection of writings from many cultures and many centuries. It spans man's spiritual experience and understanding and lays down a wide selection of guidelines for living closer to God. There have been endless interpretations and differences in emphasis usually to highlight one particular viewpoint or other. Transation from the original Hebrew (OT) and NT Greek is always subject to individual interpretation. Better to go back to the original if you want to get to the core of things. However, you can trust the main texts that have been around since the Vulgate. I prefer the King James version because its language is classic, simple and has the dignity of Shakesperean language. A Christian, like other folk, is challenged to use the brain that God gave him and to make up his own mind as to why, where and under what circumstances any particular text was written. The Bible, after all, is there because it is a text book for those who seek. It is not going to stay static and the next version will be out before you are much older.

Answer 5

Because the Apocrypha which is in the Catholic Bible was added in 1546 but neither Jesus nor the prophets spoke of the Apocrypha or any of its books. Some of the books that the prophets spoke about are missing. And of course we would like to know about these. Martin Luther wanted only I guess as he thought of it, I'm not Martin Luther, but the verifiable books.

It does not mean the Christians were misguided during those times because most were illiterate and most who could read couldn't read Latin. If Christians were misled, the Priests of the Catholic church misled them and of course they would have been misled by the pope. These people walked in the Holy Spirit who taught them all things and the Catholic Church or pope did not pollute all of the Christians. There were Christians who were not Catholic, I am sure. Martin Luther became one. He just became a more famous one.

Answer 6

If you believe that God is the author of the bible, (2 Timothy 3:16) then you must know that he directs things in his own time. He has no obligation to please men, but rather he looks into the hearts of men to see their motives, he made us with free will and wants us to serve him in truth. he allows the devil to rule with man made kingdoms for a time, which has about run out.
It's best now to look and use his word as we have it today, realizing that for a while after John's day men with deceitful attitudes creep into the Christian congregation and mis-led many. Everything we need is in the instruction book if we just use it. God has a purpose for his earth and we had better understand what it is very soon. for the book tells us what will happen. Daniel 2:44. If you think for a minute that God's direction is not behind these events and corrections then you missed the point.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

What is important is what Luther did do. He translated the Bible into German, so that the masses could read and study the Scriptures, instead of relying on the Catholic priesthood to "interpret" scripture for them, force-feeding their particular spin on things.

Up until this time, people could not even own or possess a copy of the Scriptures.
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Answer 9

The Bible isn't wrong and neither was ML. Man changes things to meet their wants and desires. All religions use their book as they see fit. Extremist use the Koran but not as it was written. So man is the modifier. Man perceives power to be in his hands and changes things to his view. All the major books of religions have not been changed. It is mans interpretation that changes.

Answer 10

The canon of the Old Testament that Catholics use is based on the text used by Alexandrian Jews, a version known as the "Septuagint" and which came into being around 280 B.C. as a translation of then existing texts from Hebrew into Greek by 72 Jewish scribes (the Torah was translated first, around 300 B.C., and the rest of Tanach was translated afterward).

The Septuagint is the Old Testament referred to in the Didache or "Doctrine of the Apostles" (first century Christian writings) and by Origen, Irenaeus of Lyons, Hippolytus, Tertullian, Cyprian of Carthage, Justin Martyr, St. Augustine and the vast majority of early Christians who referenced Scripture in their writings. The Epistle of Pope Clement, written in the first century, refers to the Books Ecclesiasticus and Wisdom, analyzed the book of Judith, and quotes sections of the book of Esther that were removed from Protestant Bibles.


In the 16th c., Luther, reacting to serious abuses and clerical corruption in the Latin Church, to his own heretical theological vision (see articles on sola scriptura and sola fide), and, frankly, to his own inner demons, removed those books from the canon that lent support to orthodox doctrine, relegating them to an appendix. Removed in this way were books that supported such things as prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45), Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7), intercession of dead saints (2 Maccabees 15:14), and intercession of angels as intermediaries (Tobit 12:12-15). Ultimately, the "Reformers" decided to ignore the canon determined by the Christian Councils of Hippo and Carthage.

The Latin Church in no way ignored the post-Temple rabbincal texts. Some Old Testament translations of the canon used by the Latin Church were also based in part on rabbinical translations, for example St. Jerome's 5th c. Latin translation of the Bible called the Vulgate.

The "Masoretic texts" refers to translations of the Old Testament made by rabbis between the 6th and 10th centuries; the phrase doesn't refer to ancient texts in the Hebrew language. Some people think that the Masoretic texts are the "original texts" and that, simply because they are in Hebrew, they are superior.

Some Protestants claim that the "Apocrypha" are not quoted in the New Testament so, therefore, they are not canonical.
Going by that standard of proof, we'd have to throw out Joshua, Judges, Ruth, 2 Kings, 1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, Lamentations, Obadiah, Nahum, and Zephaniah because none of these Old Testament Books are quoted in the New Testament.


But there is a bigger lesson in all this confusion over not only the canon but proper translation of the canon , especially considering that even within the Catholic Church there have been differing opinions by individual theologians about the proper place of the deuterocanonicals (not that an individual theologian's opinions count for Magisterial teaching!).
The lesson, though, is this: relying on the "Bible alone" is a bad idea; we are not to rely solely on Sacred Scripture to understand Christ's message. While Scripture is "given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16-17), it is not sufficient for reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness.
It is the Church that is the "pillar and ground of Truth" (1 Timothy 3:15)!
Jesus did not come to write a book; He came to redeem us, and He founded a Sacramental Church through His apostles to show us the way.
It is to them, to the Church Fathers, to the Sacred Deposit of Faith, to the living Church that is guided by the Holy Spirit, and to Scripture that we must prayerfully look.