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Isn't that three (3)? I thought the bible clearly states that there is ONE (1) God?! Serious answers only please.

2007-09-17 16:03:23 · 23 answers · asked by Speak freely 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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JESUS never claimed to be God. Everything he said about himself indicates that he did not consider himself equal to God in any way—not in power, not in knowledge, not in age.

In every period of his existence, whether in heaven or on earth, his speech and conduct reflect subordination to God. God is always the superior, Jesus the lesser one who was created by God. TIME and again, Jesus showed that he was a creature separate from God and that he, Jesus, had a God above him, a God whom he worshiped, a God whom he called "Father." In prayer to God, that is, the Father, Jesus said, "You, the only true God." (John 17:3) At John 20:17 he said to Mary Magdalene: "I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." (RS, Catholic edition) At 2 Corinthians 1:3 the apostle Paul confirms this relationship: "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ." Since Jesus had a God, his Father, he could not at the same time be that God.

The apostle Paul had no reservations about speaking of Jesus and God as distinctly separate: "For us there is one God, the Father, . . . and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ." (1 Corinthians 8:6, JB) The apostle shows the distinction when he mentions "the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of the elect angels." (1 Timothy 5:21, RS Common Bible) Just as Paul speaks of Jesus and the angels as being distinct from one another in heaven, so too are Jesus and God.

Jesus' words at John 8:17, 18 are also significant. He states: "In your own Law it is written, 'The witness of two men is true.' I am one that bears witness about myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness about me." Here Jesus shows that he and the Father, that is, Almighty God, must be two distinct entities, for how else could there truly be two witnesses?

Jesus further showed that he was a separate being from God by saying: "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone." (Mark 10:18, JB) So Jesus was saying that no one is as good as God is, not even Jesus himself. God is good in a way that separates him from Jesus.
Jesus made statements such as: "The Son cannot do anything at his own pleasure, he can only do what he sees his Father doing." (John 5:19, The Holy Bible, by Monsignor R. A. Knox) "I have come down from heaven to do, not my will, but the will of him that sent me." (John 6:38) "What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him that sent me." (John 7:16) Is not the sender superior to the one sent?
This relationship is evident in Jesus' illustration of the vineyard. He likened God, his Father, to the owner of the vineyard, who traveled abroad and left it in the charge of cultivators, who represented the Jewish clergy. When the owner later sent a slave to get some of the fruit of the vineyard, the cultivators beat the slave and sent him away empty-handed. Then the owner sent a second slave, and later a third, both of whom got the same treatment. Finally, the owner said: "I will send my son [Jesus] the beloved. Likely they will respect this one." But the corrupt cultivators said: "'This is the heir; let us kill him, that the inheritance may become ours.' With that they threw him outside the vineyard and killed him." (Luke 20:9-16) Thus Jesus illustrated his own position as one being sent by God to do God's will, just as a father sends a submissive son.

The followers of Jesus always viewed him as a submissive servant of God, not as God's equal. They prayed to God about "thy holy servant Jesus, whom thou didst anoint, . . . and signs and wonders are performed through the name of thy holy servant Jesus."—Acts 4:23, 27, 30, RS, Catholic edition.
AT THE very outset of Jesus' ministry, when he came up out of the baptismal water, God's voice from heaven said: "This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved." (Matthew 3:16, 17) Was God saying that he was his own son, that he approved himself, that he sent himself? No, God the Creator was saying that he, as the superior, was approving a lesser one, his Son Jesus, for the work ahead.

Jesus indicated his Father's superiority when he said: "Jehovah's spirit is upon me, because he anointed me to declare good news to the poor." (Luke 4:18) Anointing is the giving of authority or a commission by a superior to someone who does not already have authority. Here God is plainly the superior, for he anointed Jesus, giving him authority that he did not previously have.

Jesus made his Father's superiority clear when the mother of two disciples asked that her sons sit one at the right and one at the left of Jesus when he came into his Kingdom. Jesus answered: "As for seats at my right hand and my left, these are not mine to grant; they belong to those to whom they have been allotted by my Father," that is, God. (Matthew 20:23, JB) Had Jesus been Almighty God, those positions would have been his to give. But Jesus could not give them, for they were God's to give, and Jesus was not God.

Jesus' own prayers are a powerful example of his inferior position. When Jesus was about to die, he showed who his superior was by praying: "Father, if you wish, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place." (Luke 22:42) To whom was he praying? To a part of himself? No, he was praying to someone entirely separate, his Father, God, whose will was superior and could be different from his own, the only One able to "remove this cup."

Then, as he neared death, Jesus cried out: "My God, my God, why have you deserted me?" (Mark 15:34, JB) To whom was Jesus crying out? To himself or to part of himself? Surely, that cry, "My God," was not from someone who considered himself to be God. And if Jesus were God, then by whom was he deserted? Himself? That would not make sense. Jesus also said: "Father, into your hands I entrust my spirit." (Luke 23:46) If Jesus were God, for what reason should he entrust his spirit to the Father?

After Jesus died, he was in the tomb for parts of three days. If he were God, then Habakkuk 1:12 is wrong when it says: "O my God, my Holy One, you do not die." But the Bible says that Jesus did die and was unconscious in the tomb. And who resurrected Jesus from the dead? If he was truly dead, he could not have resurrected himself. On the other hand, if he was not really dead, his pretended death would not have paid the ransom price for Adam's sin. But he did pay that price in full by his genuine death. So it was "God [who] resurrected [Jesus] by loosing the pangs of death." (Acts 2:24) The superior, God Almighty, raised the lesser, his servant Jesus, from the dead.

Does Jesus' ability to perform miracles, such as resurrecting people, indicate that he was God? Well, the apostles and the prophets Elijah and Elisha had that power too, but that did not make them more than men. God gave the power to perform miracles to the prophets, Jesus, and the apostles to show that He was backing them. But it did not make any of them part of a plural Godhead.



Jesus Had Limited Knowledge




WHEN Jesus gave his prophecy about the end of this system of things, he stated: "But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." (Mark 13:32, RS, Catholic edition) Had Jesus been the equal Son part of a Godhead, he would have known what the Father knows. But Jesus did not know, for he was not equal to God.


Similarly, we read at Hebrews 5:8 that Jesus "learned obedience from the things he suffered." Can we imagine that God had to learn anything? No, but Jesus did, for he did not know everything that God knew. And he had to learn something that God never needs to learn—obedience. God never has to obey anyone.

The difference between what God knows and what Christ knows also existed when Jesus was resurrected to heaven to be with God. Note the first words of the last book of the Bible: "The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him." (Revelation 1:1, RS, Catholic edition) If Jesus himself were part of a Godhead, would he have to be given a revelation by another part of the Godhead—God? Surely he would have known all about it, for God knew. But Jesus did not know, for he was not God.

2007-09-17 21:17:51 · answer #1 · answered by ainospetit 2 · 2 0

God is NOT THREE IN ONE!!!

Yes you are right, the bible clearly states that there is only one God, The Fatther (Isaiah 44:8, Deuteronomy 4:35,39, John 17:1,3, I Corinthians 8:6)
The TRINITY doctrine is only inevented doctrine by the catholic authorities during the 4th century.
Jesus Chirist is God (325 AD) council of nicea
Holy Spirit is God (381 AD) council of constantinople
if Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are also God, why do they need a council to discuss about it?

There are so many so called "CHRISTIANS" believes in this invented doctrine... they misinterpreted the scriptures, mistranlated, paraphrase and all these to support their doctrines....

2007-09-17 17:54:36 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The best analogy is the egg, it has a hard shell, a white and a yoke, they are all separate and they are all one being. The holy spirit is God That dwells within us, Jesus became man so He could show us how to live and He gave Himself to the suffering and torment to pay for our sin so we can have a second chance. In the God head He is Almighty and Pure, so Holy we can not even look upon Him or we may die. I don't know why that is so hard for people to understand when you have the sun which He created and is no where near as powerful yet we can't look at it without going blind. So can you imagine how great a light He must cast? Praise be to God.

2007-09-17 16:23:23 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You're right. That does make three, and that makes it false! Jesus was a man, the holy spirit is just another way of referring to the Almighty. The Scriptures say that God is spirit...Period.

Jesus didn't know the time of His return, so that fact alone disqualifies Him from being God. God cannot die.

I'm an absolute believer in the Messiah, but the one the church puts forth is totally false. Why do you think the Jews won't accept this god with three faces? It isn't blindness...it's offensive to the Almighty!

2007-09-17 16:16:30 · answer #4 · answered by NXile 6 · 1 1

1 John 5:8

2007-09-17 16:13:01 · answer #5 · answered by n9wff 6 · 0 0

They are three separate entities that have a certain position in the unity.

Sorta like this...

John Smith is the Father. Jane smith is the Mother. And jack Smith is the Son.

But they are all three Smiths. Separate individuals, with separate functions, but still all Smith's.

Another example:

In a company you have the CEO, The head of advertising and the head of quality control. They are all functioning parts of the same company, they hold different positions in the company, and are all know as part of the company. They have their separate rolls that function together as a whole (that makes up the body of the company) for the betterment of the company as a whole.

2007-09-17 16:26:23 · answer #6 · answered by Hillbillee 5 · 0 0

325CE Council of Nice Promotion of the Goodman: Christ is Divine

381CE First Council of Constantinople drew up a dogmatic statement on the Trinity and defined Holy Spirit as having the same divinity expressed for the Son by the Council of Nicea 56 years earlier.

Though both edicts defy the OT Idoltry law...
Deut 4:15-16 Since you saw no form on the day the the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire. beware lest you act corruptly by making a graven image for yourselves, in the form of any figure, the likeness of man or female...

Though both are a part of the ORTHODOXY--"to make straight' put out by the churches.

The coucils needed to make 'Jesus' into a god, since only god can forgive sin.

2007-09-17 16:16:54 · answer #7 · answered by Lion Jester 5 · 0 0

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2016-10-04 22:24:36 · answer #8 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

How can three branches of the goverment make up one nation?

If someone thinks of God as some male in the clouds sitting on a throne you can physically see with your eyes. You view of God could not be farther away.

2007-09-17 16:16:15 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

How can one give a serious answer to the most nonsensical concept ever invented by any religion? Seriously, whoever came up with this gem must have been an atheists, thinking no one would buy into a religious concept this stupid.

Of course, he was wrong - one can never underestimate the stupidity of belief.

2007-09-17 16:14:09 · answer #10 · answered by Brent Y 6 · 0 1

A First Grader will tell you that 1+1+1 equals 3 !

Now Trinitarians try and tell First Graders that THEY'RE WRONG

p.s I KNOW; that was a First RATE Answer !

2007-09-17 18:43:48 · answer #11 · answered by . 7 · 0 0

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