This section isn't about improving society and providing for the betterment of mankind by removing religion.
It's about religious and spiritual beliefs.
2007-09-17 15:25:01 · 29 answers · asked by swoosh 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
So you are arguing the very existence of this section? Do you want this section removed?
2007-09-17 15:28:45 · update #1
Yeah... it's about religious beliefs... beliefs that are rooted in gullibility, irrationality, willful ignorance, self-delusion, intellectual dishonesty, hypocrisy and drooling stupidity... particularly Christian religious beliefs.
Gods were invented by man, in a desperate attempt to explain what was once unexplainable... things like the sun, moon, and stars... day and night... thunder and lightening... sickness and death... etc... and to answer questions that were once unanswerable... vital, profound, important questions like "Daddy... what holds the sky up?" The answer for ALL of these things was some form of "God did it."
For all of these questions, the delusion "God did it" (the ILLUSION of knowledge) has been replaced by REAL knowledge... and as a result, this 'god' has been reduced from an all-powerful supernatural being to a 'God of the Gaps'... an imaginary cockroach-like creature that scurries from crack-to-crevice, looking for the remaining patches of darkness and shadow in mankind's '"knowledge-base", so as to cower and hide from the glaring light of knowledge and understanding.
The fact that people continue to cling to this pitiable, delusional 'god' idea is a pathetic disgrace, to say the least... and I am inclined to add 'tragic' to that, as well... a testament to the enduring power of gullibility, irrationality, willful ignorance, self-delusion, intellectual dishonesty, hypocrisy and drooling stupidity.
Yet today, we find stalwart defenders of these insane delusions fighting a desperate battle to stave off knowledge and understanding, trying to shield the dark cracks and crevices of ignorance from the light of reason... crying "No... no... that ain't so... God did it... God did it."
One example of this lies in the idea that you can't properly interpret the bible unless you are possessed of the Holy Spirit. What having "...the Holy Spirit to help illuminate our minds to God's word" REALLY means is that they have been so thoroughly brainwashed that they are attuned to 'doublethink'... the ability to hold two contradictory propositions as 'true' at the same time, without experiencing 'cognitive dissonance'... and without having their heads explode. Up is down, bad is good, murder becomes 'love'... fools are wise and the wise are fools... knowledge is meant to steer you away from the Lord, and ignorance is the way to righteousness and salvation... and gullibility and drooling stupidity are holy virtues. It means insisting that god is 'all loving'... while knowing at the same time that god frequently commanded the Hebrews to bash babies skulls against rocks and slash open the bellies of pregnant women, with swords... and not sensing any conflict or contradiction between these ideas.
"Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and... know nothing but the word of God." ~ Martin Luther
In other words, they are bug-nuts... insane... thoroughly deluded by sophisticated mind-control techniques that have been worked out, refined and perfected by christianity over the past 1,700 years.
There is a whole INDUSTRY (Christianity) whose BUSINESS it is to create whole generations of adults who are, at once, gullible, irrational, willfully ignorant, self-deluded, intellectually dishonest, droolingly stupid and hypocritical... and willing to tithe 10% for the privledge of having their cognitive dissonance held in check through regular doses of holy bullshit.
Religious 'shepherds' KNOW that their 'flock' (sheeple) are scientifically ignorant and incapable of critical thinking... because they've been PROGRAMMED to be ignorant. They KNOW that they are suspicious of 'scientific' sources , and find them to be intimidating and incomprehensible... because they've been CONDITIONED to distrust them. These puppet-masters KNOW that their flock (victims) will seek their 'knowledge' from 'trusted' sources... these very-same puppet-masters. When the sheeple hear things like 'scientists claim that humans and apes shared a common ancestor, in the distant past', they experience 'cognitive dissonance'... this information is in conflict with the 'truth' that they have believed for their whole lives. So... where do they go to resolve this cognitive dissonance?... Scientists?... NO! They go to their 'trusted' sources... the sources who KNOW that they have been taught WHAT to think... they have not been taught HOW to think. Sources who KNOW that they can lie, obfuscate, misrepresent with impunity... with absolutely NO RISK that their minions will seek out independent, peer-reviewed corroborating information.
They do their jobs very well indeed... as can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xKDKq_PPbk&mode=related&search=
This is a good news/bad news sort of thing. The GOOD news is that these Christian mind-control tecniques... perfected and refined over the past 1,700 years... only work on people who do not have the critical-thinking skills and reasoning power to penetrate the logical fallacies, lies, misrepresentations and deceit upon which this fraud is constructed. The BAD news (and it's REALLY bad news) is that this accounts for 85%+ of the adult population of the USA.
Oh, crap... we're doomed.
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2007-09-17 15:36:20 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Correction: It's about Religious Beliefs & Spiritual Knowledge.
2007-09-17 15:31:10 · answer #2 · answered by Champion of Knowledge 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
"It's about religious and spiritual beliefs"
Exactly! It's about BELIEFS! Not only the belief that something exists, but the belief that it doesn't. And if we're so unwanted in this section, why do you all ask us so many questions?
2007-09-17 15:33:13 · answer #3 · answered by OhKatie! 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Until the time when other people's religious beliefs no longer affects their lives, yes, it makes sense for them to be here.
2007-09-17 15:31:56 · answer #4 · answered by Jess H 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Yes, it makes sense.
I am interested in religion and the study of religion, as well as discussing the beliefs of others. This is a place to do that, so here is where I am.
2007-09-17 15:33:20 · answer #5 · answered by N 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Well Atheists often explore religion, some are just interested in the beliefs, and some are truly searching to see if there is a religion that makes sense to them.
As far was them coming here to tell us there is no God or gods, then that is not appropriate and is not acceptable.
2007-09-17 15:33:06 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 3⤋
Who said anything about removing this section? And why shouldn't I be here? And why can't this be about removing religion? It doesnt' say RELIGION IS GREAT section.
2007-09-17 15:30:15 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Thanks for assuming that religion has a monopoly on all things "spiritual." Or that only religions can comment on the religious.
Better yet, why not make it a Christian category where only other approved Christians can comment?
2007-09-17 15:29:11 · answer #8 · answered by Dalarus 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I have opinions on both religious AND spiritual beliefs.
2007-09-17 15:27:18 · answer #9 · answered by Eleventy 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Interesting Question....but I think Atheism is a religion whether one wants to believe so or not. The definition of religion has changed over time. Before it was defined as believing in a supreme being but now it also includes: A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
Atheists are devoted to believing there is no God...therefore it does make sense.
2007-09-17 15:31:38 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 4⤋
That's what we are here for...discussing religion and spirituality. It's for that...not for Christians to hold prayer meetings. This section is for ANYONE to discuss religion and spirituality.
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2007-09-17 15:30:46 · answer #11 · answered by AuroraDawn 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋