OK, you guys say that the practice of infant male circumcision should be legal to please the invisable man in the sky. Why this choice shouldn't be given to the boy is beoynd me.
And, people from East Africa who pray to a different invisable man have a practice of doing the same thing to girls. Their prepuce being the hood. Americans are strongly againsed that. Why should what you want to do be legal but what they want to do be illegal?
My possition is that everyone should be able to have a circumcision if they want one when they are of legal age and deciding for themself.
2007-09-17
14:51:43
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You are incorect Gamla Joe. There may be religous reasons, but there are absoulutly no health reasons acording to many doctors. Including Dr. Dean Adel. Also, it was recently banned in Australia. and is being condimed by the medical community around the world.
2007-09-17
14:58:38 ·
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siaosi, yes I do. If a person is 18 years old, I believe they should weigh in on whether or not they should be aborted.
2007-09-17
14:59:54 ·
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Dulos, I was making the point of why should America allow Jewish people do it to the males but refuse to allow many eastern africans living in the US from pleasing the invisible man they pray to.
2007-09-17
15:03:01 ·
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dze, that doesn't take away the functionality of the ear.
2007-09-17
15:04:27 ·
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Kerilyn, I'm am a religous person myself. But I don't think that the government should be secular in matters such as this.
If the god I pray to wants me to cut of your nose, should it be legal? Or should my rights stop where your body is concirned? Your nose your choice like I am advocating.
2007-09-17
15:07:53 ·
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slo18, so using that logic should breast implants be forced on young girls to make them more sexualy attractive to men?
2007-09-17
15:11:44 ·
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jen I am in total agreement with your theology. So why are so many Christian's in America doing it? So why should the American government, that is meant to be neutral tell the Jewish people it's ok to do what you do; And at the same time tell the Musslems from East Africa that they cannot when the prepuce is very simular on both male and female bodies?
2007-09-17
15:15:09 ·
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the chosen one, OK, so you are saying that circumcision will protect a man from getting STDs? So if you are circumcised, you can go out and have sex with people who have AIDS? I think that is incorect. Most of the men in the USA who have STDs are circumcised.
2007-09-17
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I agree with you. Most of the pro-circumcision information is myths or lies. Or not worth getting it done for. I think kids should have a choice about their religion. They can be brought up how their parents like but if their religion involves body modification the child should be allowed to choose it.
2007-09-17 23:18:07
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answered by Anonymous
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Acts 15:5-20; The Gentiles get the word of God after Jesus has ascended, and circumcision for them is ruled out. They are being given all without it, that the others are with it.
The burning bush was to get the attention of Moses, he had a 40 year job that must be done and he did it.
Circumcision was to get the attention of the family of Abraham, they had to go down to generation four before they would get the law of the land and the laws of God and be the law enforcement people beginning with the Promised Land being wiped free of land pirates and lawless trouble makers that existed from Abraham to king David, then peace for Solomon and the temple to be built, then onto [ flood years was 1656 ], 1804 after flood year temple destroyed, 606 years to first coming of Messiah. Dan.9:24-27; and the math later has a shorter [ O.T. done 443 BCE ], time to the Messiah is cut off and after this the Gentiles get the WORD.
Abraham's family did there job and did not impose circumcision on Gentiles.
2007-09-17 15:09:32
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answered by jeni 7
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slo 18: So you are really put off by smegma huh? Smegma is so vile and disgusting that preventing it is reason enough for mutilating babies!
Well, Girl you had better get with a surgeon a.s.a.p. because females produce SMEGMA too, and how the heck can you clean that vile, disgusting, slimy cheese out of your winky. A boy can just skin it back for 5 second in the shower and it is clean, but what are you going to do, use a bottle brush to get all that smegma out?
2007-09-18 10:13:33
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answered by cut50yearsago 6
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Circumcision is best done underwater, by four skin divers.
Seriously, it is done for religious reasons--reasons for which you should a little respect. I'm sure that if you asked a rabbi, or even a Jewish friend, you would have your answer. I suspect that, as evidenced by your comment about "a different invisable (sic) man" that you are using this forum to take a poke at religious people. Do you feel better now? Or will your jollies have to wait until some fools rise to the bait and quote the Bible at you?
2007-09-17 15:00:27
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answered by Pagan Dan 6
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I agree circumcision should be the individual choice of the person getting the circumcision (excluding those done at a younger age for medical reasons i.e. rare cases of foreskin infection etc.)
2007-09-17 14:57:12
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answered by Diane (PFLAG) 7
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female 'circumcision' is just mutilation, plain and simple. there is no medical benefit to it. it's barbaric and archaic.
male circumcision has been around for centuries became popular due to hygienic reasons. it's benefits have been debated but now it is getting more and more support, since it decreases HIV infection.
It is proven to be extremely painful in older kids. It takes a very long time to recover from it. It's not something done lightly. there is no deciding to do it later. you might as well torture yourself by some other means. There are medical benefits to do it, and doing it on a infant is the best time because it heals very fast. In fact, compare it to the head being deformed during birth and reshaping. that's painful. circumcision is mild compared to everything else the baby is going through.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/14/health/14hiv.html?ex=1190174400&en=5e02d2a7c9c079a2&ei=5070
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/74684.php
2007-09-17 14:59:53
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answered by Anonymous
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Circumcision of boys was a covenant between God and the Jewish people. Today it's done here for medical reasons. Americans have no right to make legal judgements for Africans...
*Edit: I understand that, my point was what right do Americans have to allow or disallow legislation for Africa
2007-09-17 14:59:08
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answered by Dulos 4
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Male circumcision has fewer noticeable health benefits than it had in the past, but they do still exist. Many of the proscriptions of the Bible were based on health benefits, including the eating of Pork and marriage restrictions.
So-called female circumcision is merely about preventing women from enjoying sex.
2007-09-17 15:21:39
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answered by Deirdre H 7
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This is the only true answer you will get on this subject. I'll be brief and to the point. God's real reason for starting circumcision on males only was for the prevention of sexually transmitted diseases in humans. God started this mandatory procedure on adults starting with Abraham up thru Moses. Then God wrote in the Laws of Moses for this step in disease prevention to be performed on all "MALE" NOT "FEMALE" newborn infants when they reached 8 days old. God never required females to undergo this disease prevention procedure because it is unnecessary. The Africans are wrong in doing this to their women.
2007-09-17 15:17:01
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answered by Anonymous
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actualy you are wrong. for every docter you talk to who says there arnt any medical benifits there is a docter who says there is. the benifits are small this is true, but I prefer to think of this way. what penis would i rather have sex with. after haveing had physical relations with both cut and un cut men. I have to say that cut is much nicer. smegma ( yes that is the corect medical term) is disgusting. it tastes horable. also no matter how much you wash being uncut provides a wonderfull breeding ground for bactiria that while not harmfull smells horrable. also be honest how clean are little boys really? no matter how many times you tell them to wash something carefully they dont. it is easser for them to stay clean if they are cut. as for female cicumsion the reson most inteligent people concider it an abomination is because you by cutting off the clitoris, compleatly illiminating that girls chance to orgasim. also it is usualy done to the girl between the age of 9 and 12 when she will remeber the pain. infant males are circumsized so young for severl resons most (aprox 94%) do not remeber haveing it done, and they heal in a few days. if you wait till till the boy is older he will remeber the pain, and have to deal with 6 weeks or more of healing and pain. ( I know this my ex got circumsized at the age of 23). edited to add. no one forced the parents of thease children to get it done ( baring the jewish faith were it is manditory). no one forced my mom to have my brothers cut. it is not mandatory in the usa. it is how ever an option. there are so many resons that breast implant comment was wrong that it is not funny. the idea of doing something to make an INFANT sexualy apealing is revolting. it is my prefence that the men I sleep with be cut men being the opertive word. I only sleep wit adult men. hell i see a 21 year old and think hes a baby!! you latched on to the three sentinces that delth with sex apeal out of an entire paragraph that primarly delth with hygene and health. after reading about how it lowers not just his chances of getting an std, but lowers his chances of passing it on to me ( chalmida) I am even more convinced then ever befor that getting my sons ( should I ever have any) circumsized is the right thing to do . how ever to play along with the breast implant comment, if it would lower by five times ( not five percent five times!) the chances of my daughter getting breast cancer yes i would. if it would lower there chances of skin infections, U I's, and Std's. yes I would have it done. edited to add, LOWERS THE RISK lowers not illiminates lowers! it lowers the risk of getting aids! and the only reson that that stament about the majority of the men in america with aids being cut is true is because the majority of the men in america are true. thats like saying that because half the women who get brest cancer wore bra;s bras cause brest cancer!
2007-09-17 15:08:10
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answered by slo18 3
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