Exodus 3:14 - God says "I AM who I AM" - John 8:58 - Jesus says "Before Abraham was, I AM" in reference to Himself.
Deut. 4:2; 12:32 - the Lord God commands that we not add or take away from His word - Rev. 22:18-19 - Jesus so commands us not to add or take away from His word.
Deut. 32:39; 1 Sam. 2:6 - the Lord kills and makes alive again and raises up - John 5:21 - the Son raises and gives life.
Deut. 32:39 - neither is there any that can deliver out of God's hand - John 10:28 - nor shall any pluck out of Jesus' hand.
Deut. 32:43 - rejoice, ye heavens, with Him, and let all the angels of God worship Him - Heb. 1:6 - the "Him" is Jesus the Son.
2 Sam. 22:3 - God is the horn of salvation - Luke 1:68-69 - Jesus is the horn of salvation.
Psalm 19:7 - the law of the Lord is perfect - Gal. 6:2 - fulfill the law of Christ.
Psalm 24:10 - the Lord is the King of glory - 1 Cor. 2:8 - Jesus is the Lord of glory.
Psalm 45:7 - Therefore God, your God, has anointed you. God calls someone else God. This someone else is His eternally begotten Son - Heb. 1:9 - Therefore God, your God, has anointed you. cf. Heb. 1:8, 10.
Psalm 62:12 - the Lord God renders to each according to his work - Matt. 16:27; Rev. 22:12 - Jesus so renders to each according to his work.
Psalm 71:5 - the Lord God is our hope - 1 Tim. 1:1 - the Lord Jesus Christ who is our hope.
Psalm 89:27 – I will make him the first-born, the highest (“elyon” which refers to God) of the kings of the earth - John 18:36-27 – Jesus is this first-born king.
Psalm 97:9 - the Lord God is above all - John 3:31 - Jesus is above all.
Psalms 110:1 - the Lord (Yahweh) said to my Lord - Jesus = Yhwh - Acts 2:34-36 - God has made Jesus both Lord and Christ.
Psalm 148:1-2 - the angels worship the Lord God - Heb. 1:6 - the angels worship Jesus. Only God is worshiped.
Prov. 3:12 - who the Lord loves He corrects - Rev. 3:19 - who Jesus loves He corrects.
Isaiah 7:14 - a virgin will bear a Son named Emmanuel which means "God is with us" - Matt. 1:23 - this Son is Jesus Christ, God in the flesh.
Isaiah 9:6 - the child to be born shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 25:8 - God swallows up death in victory - 2 Tim. 1:10 - Jesus abolishes death and brings life and immortality.
Isaiah 40:8 - the Word of God shall stand forever - Matt. 24:35 - the Words of Jesus shall not pass away.
Isaiah 42:8 - God gives His glory to no other - John 17:5; Heb. 1:3 - yet Jesus has the same glory as the Father.
Isaiah 43:14 - the Lord God is redeemer - Titus 2:14 - Jesus is the redeemer.
Isaiah 44:6 - the Lord God is the first and the last - Rev. 1:17; 2:8; 22:13 - Jesus is the first and the last.
Isaiah 45:19 - I, the Lord God, did not speak in secret - John 18:20 - Jesus said "I have said nothing secretly."
Isaiah 45:23 - to God, every knee shall bow and every tongue swear. Phil. 2:10-11 - at Jesus' name every knee should bow and tongue confess.
Isaiah 48:17 - God is the Holy One - Acts 3:14 - Jesus is the Holy One.
Isaiah 60:19 - God is everlasting light - Revelation 21:23 - Jesus the Lamb is eternal light.
Jer. 17:10 - the Lord searches the hearts and repays us according to our deeds - Rev. 2:23 - Jesus searches the hearts and repays us according to our deeds.
Ezek. 1:26-28; Daniel 7:9 - God's glorious appearance - Rev. 1:13-16 - Jesus' glorious appearance.
Ezek. 34:11-31 - God the Father is the shepherd of the flock - John 10:7-29 - Jesus is the shepherd of the flock.
Ezek. 34:16 - God seeks to save that which was lost - Luke 19:10 - Jesus seeks to save that which was lost.
Ezek. 34:17 - God judges between cattle, rams and goats - Matt. 25:32 - Jesus judges and separates the goats from the sheep.
Ezek. 43:2 - God's voice was like a noise of many waters - Rev. 1:15 - Jesus' voice was like the sound of many waters.
Dan. 2:47 - the Lord is the God of gods and the Lord of Lords - Rev. 17:14 - Jesus the Lamb is the Lord of Lords.
John 1:1 - John writes, "the Word was God." This is clear evidence of Jesus Christ's divinity. (Note: in the Jehovah's bible, the passage was changed to "Word was a god." This is not only an embarrassing attempt to deny the obvious divinity of Christ, but it also violates the first commandment and Isaiah 43:10 because it acknowledges that there is more than one God).
John 1:2-3 - He (the Word) was in the beginning with God and all things were made through Him (the Word who was God).
John 1:14 - the Word (who is God) became flesh (Jesus) and dwelled among us, full of grace and truth.
John 1:18 - the Greek word for "only-begotten" is "monogenes" which means unique, only member of a kind. It does not mean created.
John 1:51 - the angels of God - Matt. 13:41 - Son of Man's angels; 2 Thess. 1:7 - Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His angels.
John 3:5 - Jesus says without baptism one cannot enter into the Kingdom of God - Col. 1:13 - Paul says this is Jesus' Kingdom.
John 6:68-69 - Peter confesses that Jesus is the Son of God who has the words of eternal life.
Acts 2:36 - God has made Jesus both Lord and Christ - Acts 4:24 - Sovereign Lord who made heaven and earth. This means Jesus is God.
Acts 3:15 - Peter said the men of Israel "killed the Author of Life." This can only be God - Acts 14:15 - who made all things.
Acts 20:28 - to care for the Church of God which He obtained with His own blood. This means God shed His blood. When? When He died on the cross. This means Jesus is God.
Rom. 1:1 - Paul is an apostle of the Gospel of God - Rom. 15:19 - Paul preached the Gospel of Christ.
Rom. 7:22 - Paul says he delights in the law of God - Gal. 6:2 - Paul says fulfill the law of Christ.
Rom. 8:9 - Paul refers to both the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ.
Rom. 9:5 - Jesus Christ is God over all, blessed forever.
Rom. 11:36 - God for from Him through Him and to Him are all things - Heb. 2:10 - Jesus for whom and by whom are all things.
1 Cor. 15:9 - Paul says he persecuted the Church of God - Matt. 16:18; Rom. 16:16 - it is the Church of Jesus Christ.
1 Cor. 15:28 - God may be all in all - Colossians 3:11 - Christ is all and in all.
Gal. 1:5 - God the Father to whom be the glory forever - 2 Peter 3:18 - to Jesus Christ be the glory both now and forever.
Phil. 2:6-7 - Jesus was in the form of God, but instead of asserting His equality with God, emptied Himself for us.
Col. 1:15 - Jesus is the image of the invisible God, the "firstborn" of all creation. The Greek word for "first-born" is "prototokos" which means eternal preexistence (it never means created).
Col. 1:26 - God's saints - 1 Thess. 3:13 - at the coming of Jesus Christ with all His saints.
Col. 2:9 - in Jesus Christ the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily. He is the whole and entire fullness of the indivisible God in the flesh.
Titus 1:1 - Paul says he is a servant of God - Rom. 1:1 - Paul says he is a servant of Jesus Christ.
Titus 1:3-4 - God our Savior = Christ our Savior = Jesus Christ is God.
Titus 2:11 - the grace of God that has appeared to save all men - Acts 15:11 - through the grace of Jesus we have salvation.
Titus 2:13 - we await our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.
Titus 3:4 - 3:6 - great God and Savior Jesus Christ = God our Savior = Jesus Christ our Savior = Jesus is God.
Heb. 1:6 - when God brings His first-born into the world, let all the angels of God worship Him. Only God is worshiped.
Heb. 1:8 - God calls the Son "God." But of the Son He says, "Thy Throne Oh God is forever and ever."
Heb. 1:9 - God calls the Son "God." "Therefore, God, Thy God has anointed Thee."
Heb. 1:10 - God calls the Son "Lord." "And thou, Lord, didst found the earth in the beginning and the heavens are your work."
Heb. 13:12 - Paul says Jesus sanctifies the people with His blood - 1 Thess. 5:23 - the God of peace sanctifies the people.
2 Peter 1:1 - to those who have obtained a faith of equal standing in the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.
1 John 5:20 - "that we may know Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life."
Jude 4 - Jude calls Jesus Christ our only Master and Lord. Our only Master and Lord is God Himself.
Rev. 2:8 - the angel of the church in Smyrna wrote, "The words of the First and the Last, who died and came to life." See Isa. 44:6.
Rev. 22:6 - the Lord God sends angels - Rev. 22:16 - Jesus sends angels.
Matt. 4:7; Luke 4:12 - Jesus tells satan, "you shall not tempt the Lord your God" in reference to Himself.
Matt. 5:21-22; 27-28; 31-32; 33-34; 38-39; 43-44 - Jesus makes Himself equal to God when He declares, "You heard it said...but I say to you.."
Matt. 7:21-22; Luke 6:46 - not everyone who says to Jesus, "Lord, Lord." Jesus calls Himself Lord, which is God.
Matt. 9:2; Mark 2:5; Luke 5:20; 7:48 - Jesus forgives sins. Only God can forgive sins.
Matt. 12:8; Mark 2:28; Luke 6:5 - Jesus says that He is "Lord of the Sabbath." He is the Lord of God's law which means He is God.
Matt. 18:20 - Jesus says where two or three are gathered in His name, there He is in the midst of them.
Matt. 21:3; Luke 19:31,34 - Jesus calls himself "Lord." "The Lord has need of them."
Matt. 26:64; Mark 14:62; Luke 22:70 - Jesus acknowledges that He is the Son of God.
Matt. 28:20 - Jesus said He is with us always, even unto the end of the world. Only God is omnipresent.
Mark 14:36 - Jesus calls God "Abba," Aramaic for daddy, which was an absolutely unprecedented address to God and demonstrates Jesus' unique intimacy with the Father.
Luke 8:39 - Luke reports that Jesus said "tell how much God has done for you." And the man declared how much Jesus did.
Luke 17:18 - Jesus asks why the other nine lepers did not come back to give praise to Him, God, except the Samaritan leper.
Luke 19:38,40 - Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord. If these were silent, the very stones would cry out.
John 5:18 - Jesus claimed to be God. The Jews knew this because Jesus called God His Father and made Himself equal to God. This is why Jesus was crucified.
John 5:21-22 - Jesus gives life and says that all judgment has been given to Him by the Father.
John 5:23 - Jesus equates Himself with the Father, "whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him."
John 6:38 - Jesus says, "For I have come down from heaven."
John 8:12 - Jesus says "I am the light of the world." - 1 John 1:5 - God is light and in him there is no darkness at all.
John 8:19 - Jesus says, "if you knew me, you would know my Father also."
John 8:23 - Jesus says that He is not of this world. Only God is not of this world.
John 8:58 - Jesus says, "Before Abraham was, I AM." Exodus 3:14 - "I AM" means "Yahweh," which means God.
John 10:18 - Jesus says He has the power to lay down His life and take it up again - Gal. 1:1 - God raised Jesus to life.
John 10:30 - Jesus says, "I and the Father are one." They are equal. The Jews even claimed Jesus made Himself equal to God. Jesus' statement in John 14:28, "the Father is greater than I," cannot contradict John 10:30 (the Word of God is never in conflict). Jesus' statement in John 14:28 simply refers to His human messianic role as servant and slave, which He, and not the Father or the Holy Spirit, undertook in the flesh.
John 10:36 - again, Jesus claims that He is "the Son of God."
John 10:38; 14:10 - "the Father is in me and I am in the Father" means the Father and Son are equal.
John 12:45 - Jesus says, "He who sees Me sees Him who sent Me." God the Father is equal to God the Son.
John 13:13 - Jesus says, "You call me Teacher and Lord and you are right for so I AM."
John 14:6 - Jesus says "I am the way, and the truth and the life." Only God is the way, the truth and the life.
John 16:15 - Jesus says, "all things that the Father has are Mine." Jesus has everything God has which makes Him God.
John 16:28 - Jesus says that "He came from the Father and has come into the world."
John 17:5,24 - Jesus' desire is for us to behold His glory which He had before the foundation of the world.
John 20:17 - Jesus distinguishes His relationship to the Father from our relationship by saying "My Father and your Father."
Rev. 1:8 - God says He is the "Alpha and the Omega." In Rev. 22:13, Jesus also says He is the "Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the beginning and the end." The only possible conclusion one can reach is that Jesus is equal to the Lord God.
Rev. 1:17 - Jesus says again, "I am the First and the Last." This is in reference to the God prophesied by Isaiah in Isaiah 44:6, 41:4, 48:12.
Rev. 1:18 - Jesus, the First and the Last, also says "I died, and behold, I am alive for evermore." When did God ever die? He only did in the humanity of Jesus Christ our Lord and God.
Rev. 2:8 - Jesus again says, "The words of the First and the Last, who died and came to life." When did God die and come to life? In our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
I have 150 more if you want them...
2007-09-17 09:00:14
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answered by Anonymous
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The trinity is NOT a Bible teaching. The Holy Scriptures tell us the personal name of the Father-Jehovah(KJV Ps. 83:18). They inform us that the Son is Jesus Christ. But nowhere in the Scriptures is a personal name applied to holy spirit. Acts 7:55, 56 reports that Stephen was given a vision of heaven in which he saw"Jesus standing at God's right hand." But he made no mention of seeing the holy spirit. It was clearly taught and known by Jesus and his disciples that he was God's son, not equal but seperate from his Father. Matthew 26:39: "Going a little farther he(Jesus Christ) fell on his face and prayed, 'My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt." (If the Father and the Son were not distinct individuals, such a prayer would have been meaningless. Jesus would have been praying to himself, and his will would of necessity have been the Father's will.) John 8: 17, 18: "Jesus answered the Jewish Pharisees: In your law it is written that the testimony of two men is true; I bear witness to myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness to me." (So Jesus definitely spoke of himself as being an indivdual seperate and distinct from the Father.) Matthew 12:31, 32: "Every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." (If the Holy Spirit were a person and were God, this text would flatly contradict the Trinity doctrine, because it would mean that in some way the Holy Spirit was greater than the Son. Instead, what Jesus said shows that the Father, to whom the "Spirit" belonged, is greater than Jesus, the Son of man.) A comparison of Bible texts that refer to the holy spirit shows that it is spoken of as 'filling'people; they can be 'babtized' with it' and they can be "annointed" with it (Luke 1:41; Matt. 3:11; Acts 10:38) None of these expressions would be appropriate if the holy spirit were a person. Jesus referred to the spirit as a "helper". With this viewpoint, it is logical to conclude that the holy spirit is the active force of God. It is not a person but is a powerful force that God causes to emanate from himself to accomplish his holy will. Ps. 104:30; 2Pet. 1:21; Acts 4:31. Regarding the Trinity, the Athansian Creed says that its members are "incomprehensible." Teachers of the doctrine often state that it is a "mystery". Obviously such a Trinitarian God is not the one that Jesus had in mind when he said: "We worship what we know." (John 4:22) The word trinity or triune is not even in the Bible and is man's doctrine, not a teaching or foundation of God's Word.
2007-09-17 09:28:18
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answered by PJ63 1
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There is no proof of the Trinity in scripture. That being said, what happens is that everytime Jesus does something God-like, or accepted worship, trinitarians will say, "He's God...but so is His Father...and so is the Holy Spirit...so since there is only one God, it must be three persons making up this one God."
The argument you use is the very one I have been presenting: That a son IS his father in some ways (e.g., certain DNA, characteristics, looks, actions, etc.)...but at the same time is NOT his father.
Likewise, Jesus is the SON of God--a position that far exceeds all of mankind and the angels--but is not the PERSON of God. And the Bible makes it clear that Jesus is subordinate to His Father, which would not seem to be the case in a trinitarian universe where the Father and the Son are co-equal, co-eternal persons of the Godhead.
The three biggest "proofs" are John 1:1 (was with God and was God--which is answered by the argument I just made); that Jesus thought it not robbery to be called equal with God (again, no problem, for Jesus IS God...but is not the PERSON of God, as shown above); and "the father, word, and spirit are one" (which is again subject to my argument).
I don't fault trinitarians, since I know they are trying to hold on to Jesus being God in a monotheistic model. But it keeps breaking down at certain scriptures, and they need a new model. The new model is that God the Father is the PERSON of God, but it is perfectly OK to call and consider Jesus God, too, since He walks in God's full authority, is comprised of the substance of God, and so forth.
That is, just as it is OK to call your son YOU (in the senses given), it is OK to call Jesus "God." Yet, we realize that your son is NOT you, nor is Jesus the PERSON of God.
2007-09-17 09:01:38
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answered by Anonymous
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supporters of the "traditions of adult males" like the pagan Roman god use a million John 5:7 of the KJV to tutor their co-equivalent 3-in-a million god yet maximum different translations beside the KJV don't have the *further* words. a million John 5:5 says "Jesus is the son of God" and verse 6 interior the oldest manuscripts extant states that he got here by ability of "water and blood". John, like quite a few Bible writers is inspired by ability of God's holy “spirit” to “undergo witness“. Verse 7 in basic terms says "the three undergo witness", something of the stuff in verse 7 interior the KJVersions became into further interior the 5th CENTURY! Then interior the oldest manuscripts extant, verse 8 doesn’t have something approximately "and there are 3 that undergo witness in earth", nor does it incorporate the Greek words for “Father” or “be conscious” even nevertheless it makes use of a similar Greek words from verse 6 for "water” and “blood". All theologic historians be attentive to those information! John a million:a million in maximum Bibles reads "interior the beginning up became into the be conscious and the be conscious became into with god and the be conscious became into god" yet once you get a e book on historic Koine Greek which John a million:a million became into written in, you will see that John used 2 distinctive words for each "god" in that verse and a greater precise translation could be "interior the beginning up became into the be conscious and the be conscious became into with the God and the be conscious became into an invaluable being". John became into only explaining that Yhshua/Jesus existed with YHWH/Jehovah in heaven till now the earth became into created. The Koine greek be conscious used the 2d time in John a million:a million is a similar Koine Greek be conscious used at 2 Corinthians 4:4; so then the style of "god" that John used final in John a million:a million is *no longer* equivalent to the Almighty Father whom Jesus prays to, worships and serves! please study right here Scriptures for further, unmistakeably clean information: John 20:17 John 17:3-5 John 5:19 John 14:28 Mark 10:18 Matthew 26:39 John 8:17-18 Mark 13:32 Matthew 20:23 Matthew 3:17 Matthew 14:23 Mark a million:35 Mark 6:40 six Mark 14:32 Luke 6:12 Colossians a million:15 John 3:sixteen Revelation 3:12 a million Corinthians 15:24-28 Acts 3:13 Philippians 2:6 Matthew 26:sixty 4 Mark 14:sixty two Luke 22:sixty 9 Acts 2:33-36 Acts 5:30, 31 Acts 7:fifty 5, fifty six Romans 8:34 Ephesians a million:17-21 Psalm one hundred ten:a million Hebrews 10:13 Hebrews 12:2 a million Peter 3:22 agape! .
2016-11-14 17:15:47
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answered by dieng 4
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Ac 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.
Ro 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Col 2:9 For in him (Christ) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
2007-09-17 10:11:54
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answered by Steve Amato 6
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col 2:9
For in him dwelleth (5719) all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
The word for Godhead is Theotes. It is specifically the term used for God, not the son but the father. The phrase speaks specifically of Jesus. This is not my interpretation but Paul's specific statement.
For context Col 2:8-10
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
2007-09-17 09:03:36
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answered by epaphras_faith 4
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THE TRINITY IS NOT A BIBLE TEACHING it is a teaching that came from Babylon & was adpoted by the catholic church in the 4th century. There have been Bible tramslators that have traslated the scriptues to make it seem that way but if you Look for trurh in translation go to this web site where Dr Jasen beDune will give you the facts
2007-09-17 16:27:10
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answered by zorrro857 4
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This is the only trinity I've found in the bible:
Harper’s Bible Dictionary
Baal / Bel ,
“Baal translates into English is Lord”
(Do you worship the Lord?)
Baal is the offspring (son) of El, (Hebrew for God)”
(Do you worship the Son of God?)
Baal is worshiped as a triad / trinity.”
(Do you worship a trinity of Gods?)
(Do you worship Baal?)
Where did I hear this teaching recently?
Sounds like a teaching of Satan, What do you think?
Who is fulfilling this prophecy?
(Jeremiah 23:27) 27 They are thinking of making my people forget my name by means of their dreams that they keep relating each one to the other, just as their fathers forgot my name by means of Ba´al.
(Psalm 83:18) 18 That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.
Even if ‘Sam’ is a Grandfather, Father, and Son, Sam still has only one will, unless he is mentally disturbed or Sam is three different individuals. Sam Sr., Sam Jr., & Sam III.
It is by God’s will we have salvation.
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2007-09-17 09:41:24
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answered by TeeM 7
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ISA 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
ISA 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
JOHN 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
JOHN 10:30 I and my Father are one.
ACT 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? ACT 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
COL 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
MAT 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
2007-09-17 08:58:12
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answered by SpiritRoaming 7
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The book of John is full of examples. But no one can make you believe what you don't want to believe.
Do you deny there is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit?
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2007-09-17 08:56:35
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answered by Hogie 7
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Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
KJV
2007-09-17 09:14:49
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answered by Carol 4
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