Prove the nonexistence of God. If not, why do you mock Christians?

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If attempting to prove the nonexistence, please use simple, logic and clear statements and vocabulary.
If you cannot prove the nonexistence of God, don't Christians deserve a right to believe what they experienced supernaturally?

Answer 1

i cannot prove that there is no God because there absolutly is one...however I can prove that God exists. St Thomas Aquinas gave us 5 basic proofs that God exists that nobody can disprove.

1) motion...in order for something to move, it must be set in motion by a force (that is a law of physics look it up). motion could not happen without something to set the world in motion. God is this first mover.
2) cause and effect...every effect must have a cause (rain, the cause, makes puddles, the effect). however, there must have been a first cause from which all effects came from. this first cause is God.
3) contingency...many things in this world are contingent on something else in order for it to exist (puddles are contingent on rain to exist). however, all things in this world cannot be contingent on something in order to exist. something MUST exist in order for everything else in this universe to exist. this is God.
4) degree...things in this world exist in varying degree, things can get hot, hotter, and will approach the greatest heat which is fire. the greatest being in existance and the cause of creation is God.
5) design...the universe is too complex, orderly, adaptive, and beautiful to be created randomly. (look at the perfect symmetry on a tree's leaf or how every organ system in the human body magically works together perfectly) because of this, the universe must have been created by an intelligent being. This creator is God.

everybody asks for proofs for God's existance...well here they are

Answer 2

Aquinas' argument for god just like any argument for something that is impossible to verify is riddled with issues, baseless assumptions and inconsistencies, sometimes contractions and flawed definitions, and if you don't think my comment hold much stock then you can research for yourself and find serious philosophical analyses of all these arguments for god that show that they are all flawed. It is impossible to prove such a thing and it is impossible to disprove such a thing, that is reality whether people will accept that or choose to remain delusional is another story.

1) Newton's law doesn't state that, it states that for something to CHANGE it's present state it must be acted upon by an external force (which doesn't actually have to be outside). It says nothing about how something moves initially. # 1 is a baseless claim that's impossible to verify.

2) Quantum Mechanics have proven # 2 to be false, at the smallest scales and most extreme conditions in nature things behave differently.

3) This is also just another claim that's impossible to verify and therefore isn't particularly compelling to the shred thinker.

4) Fire isn't anywhere close the the greatest heat, plasma is, fire is a chemical process and plasma is a nuclear process dependent on different forces, and there's no where to verify that everything exists in degrees no matter how many observations you make about the world. This is just another assumption.

5) "the universe is too complex to be created randomly" Why? complexity arises out of chaos and random chance all the time, mutations, weather, in fact, all the natural processes on earth seem to proceed randomly into complexity from chaos. Also saying look at the order and complexity of this or that is meaningless since for every good example you find countless more bad examples exists, and beauty is completely subjective and a human made concept which has nothing to do with reality.

I just quickly pointed out some issues with his argument but plenty of philosophers have analyzed his argument rigorously and found serious flaws in it as is true with every other argument for god. You can't prove or disprove something that somehow transcends reality, which is why faith is the last resort for religious people, but I rather base my whole life mindless believing something that can't be verified just because it makes me feel good.

Answer 3

No. Either position is neither provable nor disprovable. Read the 4000 previous questions asking this exact thing for a rundown of the arguments either way. Edit... no one is likely to still be reading this question, but I'll whack this in anyway. Isn't it odd the way generally those who don't believe will tell you that it's not provable either way, but those who do insist they're correct (with, as always, a few exceptions to such a rule)? The evidence presented in this question for example appears to be a mix of the bible, a list of physical phenomona that somehow becomes evidence and some quasi(pseudo?) science towards the end mixed up with a fair amount of ignorance and blind faith. If religious people could come to accept that firstly what they believe in is not, and cannot be, proven to exist unles it does exist and chooses to prove itself and secondly that regardless of what belief they hold the majority of the worlds population actually disagrees with them, then perhaps we could all move on and have a discussion about something more interesting. Next item: how many angels can stand on a pin head.

Answer 4

For you detractors, Christians don't suggest they can prove such an inspiration with material evidence (the only kind a skeptic would accept), but they consider faith (the assent of the heart) capable of grasping some immaterial, spiritual realities - like this one.

From a purely historical standpoint, one cannot disagree that 2,000 years of continual belief should be given some weight. In all this time no one has proven the Bible is not inspired, and therefore by the same standard of material evidence, we should all agree nobody can say Christians are definitely wrong about inspiration.

By the way, Christians are NOT asking for anyone's permission to believe in the body of Christ. For 2,000 years and further back in history around the world, our predecessors have died by the millions refusing to believe any other notion forced upon us. That's not likely to change in the fog of a couple of decades of internet silliness.

You believe what you want, and we'll see how that works out for you. However, you are always welcome should you so decide.

Answer 5

first - nobody mock Christians. very religion has suffered in it's own way during the time in this world.

Ur question itself is not logic? why do smbd need to prove gods nonexistence if nobody proved his existence yet?

U are not naive to things that thousands of years ago, a gray old man sitting on the cloud , oh no, sorry, sitting in a complete dark, made the light and the world do u? where from? out of what? where did this oldy came from??

No religion can prove it's statements completely from the beginning to the end. Doubting is good.that's what makes religious people to rethink it's politics and power.
every religion has smth to believe. words "ï love u" sound so different in different languages! but it means the same.
so it's not about whom to believeee, it's about the belief itself. if u believ in an old gray man sitting on a cloud watching us - good!
if u believe in a positive light of peace - good!!
if u believ in Mohamed that Will bring happiness to the world - good!
if u believe in a good that is in yourself - good!!
Just believe..

Answer 6

a) You can't prove somethings nonexistence. You can prove something exists, but you can't prove something doesn't exist due to the infinite and multidimensional nature of the universe. Ie, I believe in pink flying unicorns, and you can't disprove them.

b) Anecdotal evidence counts for nothing. These feelings experienced by christians arent "supernatural" using an MRI scanner and injected material it's possible to see which parts of somones brain are working when they are undoing a religious experience. Belief in god is entirely a human fault due to evolutionary hangups, a tendency to recognise false patterns, and lack of emotional self awareness and insecurity. It's incredibly easy to fool people into believing in religion.

Sure, they deserve the right to believe what they want as long as they don't try to impose those morals on others, but it doesn't mean what they believe is right

Answer 7

There is a way to prove a negative, Such as in geometry, merely by making a positive proof under a false assumption, and since the initial assumption is false then the negative is proven.

Having said that, in MY opinion, EVERYONE should be allowed to believe what they want, as long as they do not impede the rights of others to believe differently. MOST if not all organized religion wants to persecute others, but be free from persecution themselves. Hm, kind of sounds like congress!

Oh, plus, let's add the fact that not ONLY Christians believe in God (or "a" God)

Answer 8

I dont mock christians, as i have my beliefs. and i think anyones beliefs should be respected.
The existence of god cant be proved as solid mater, but more like a presence.
Im not an expert but one thing i dont believe is that god created the world, simply because there is scientific proof of what happened.
I believe that god is ''Us'' because everything that was writen in the bible and religious stories, happens to all of us. God might be our conscious.
There is something out there, perhaps because you hear the word God since you are born, you believe it. ive heard many people saying they dont believe in god, but when they get into trouble they say: ''oh my god''...

Answer 9

I'll answer this in reverse.
Yes christians have the right to believe in whatever they want to believe in.I only have a problem when they try to push those beliefs onto others.
As for proof that there is no god.
There isn't any as it is impossible to prove that something doesn't exist although that can be relative.
For example.
The Earth is billions of years old and in all that time not one tiny shred of evidence has come to light to show the existence of a god.
That is close enough to proof for me.

Answer 10

You are suggesting that:

1. Some Christians believe they have had supernatural experiences.
2. If someone is both a Christian and has had a supernatural experience then that must be of God.

But not all who claim to be Christians are true Christians, we can not simply sign up.

There are many proofs that God exists, and I have written about that in other of my answers. Anyone who has a proof otherwise must hold to an inadequate set of assumptions.