Since today is the day for the trinity questions?

Question

God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are three who are one. The Bible makes this clear.

The trinity is scriptural.

Jesus and God are one. Two parts of the trinity.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

In the verses below Peter accuses Ananias of lying to the Holy Ghost. In the very next verse he says he lied to God. God and the Holy Ghost are one. The last part of the trinity.

Acts 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

So if Jesus and God are one and God and the Holy Ghost are one. Then we have a trinity.

Actually trinity is found in the Hebrew scriptures.

If not Jesus who is the Our image God is referring to?

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Answer 1

One gains insight in studying the historical background for the Trinitarian belief and the doctrinal statement of the Council that followed in relation to the Trinity and the two natures (vereHomo, vere Deus) of Christ. The first century Christians referred to Jesus as “Lord” and in doing so acknowledged the deepest mystery of our faith but it was central as the confession of the incarnation of God in Jesus Christ. At the same time it was difficult to put into words or express with human understanding what was impressed upon the human spirit by the Spirit which was the intuitive knowledge that Jesus is God in the flesh. Theologians were perplexed for more than two centuries on how to place into proper context on even the most rudimentary parameters of this confession of the Church. The difficulty arose because they did not want to compromise either the deity or the humanity of Jesus. The Scriptural witness did not allow the early Church to consider Christ anything less than true God, or anything less that true man. The difficulty in understanding and explaining knowledge derived of the Spirit is that the mystery that defies explanation in a way that one can reasonably understand with their human intellect often reduces it to mere sophistry or logical contradiction. Like so many things of faith it is easier to dismiss understanding of the Spirit for human reason as if there must be some merger of intellect and faith for veracity. As the Scriptures suggest, in matters of faith we must accept with a childlike innocence and reason.

It is interesting to note that the first heresy facing the early Church was not defending His deity but His humanity. St. Tertullian said, “The human blood of our Lord was still smoking on the hills of Judea when there were some among us who said, He is not human.” As time went on it was also necessary to defend the divinity of Jesus against heresies because the Church realized that if the concept of Jesus’ humanity is removed, we do not have divinity left but instead we have nothing. The Christology of the early Church tells us that if we remove the deity of Christ, we do not have humanity left, instead we have nothing left. Therefore, the early Church was uncompromising on accepting any concept that departed from Jesus being fully man and fully God. The Council of Chalcedon in 451AD stated the following: that the distinction of natures is ”in no way annulled by the union, but rather the characteristics of each nature (is) preserved …coming together to form one person and subsistence (hypostasis) not as parted or separated into two persons, but one and the same Son and only begotten God the Word, Lord Jesus Christ.” Between the years 325AD (Nicaea) to 451AD (Chalcedon), the Church after four Ecumenical Councils had settled on four matters of doctrine in regards to the understanding of the person of Christ: His full deity, His full humanity, His unity in person, and the distinction of His two natures.

In Christ
Fr. Joseph

Answer 2

The trinity is not Scriptural. It is a man-made doctrine of Christendom. God is not a "mystery" to those who truly know him.
Jesus and Jehovah are one in purpose only. They are two separate spirit persons. Jesus also said that he and the apostles were "one" Were they one person or did Jesus mean they were one as in united in purpose and thinking?
When a couple weds, they become "one flesh" What does that mean to you?
Food for thought, isn't it?
Jesus said that God is "greater" than he is and knows things he doesn't and he also said he came to earth, not to do his own will but the will of his Father. (Self explanatory)
Jesus prayed. (God has no need to pray)
Jesus physically died. (God cannot die)
Jesus was resurrected. (Since God cannot die--no resurrected needed) In fact God is the one who resurrected Jesus back to life.
The holy spirit is not a person. When people were filled with the spirit at Pentecost 33 C.E, were they filled with a person?
No, they were filled with power beyond what is normal that God supplied.
When God said "Let us make man in our image", he was speaking to his first creation, namely his firstborn Son Jesus, who was there when Adam & Eve were created.

The above statements are proof indeed that there is no trinity.
LOBT

Answer 3

I don't see a question anywhere in your post, so I'm guessing you want our views on the trinity, eh?

My wife and I became one when we were married, but that does not mean we are the same being. I really like John 17 to explain the trinity. Jesus is praying to His Father, and Jesus asks Him to make His disciples one, just as Jesus is with the Father. We are not all going to become one massive blob of being. We will become one in purpose and thought. This is how God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are. They are the perfect team. Another great scripture that shows the seperate nature of the Godhead is John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
He doesn't say, I'll send myself back in my name to teach you. The Father will send the Holy Ghost in the name of Jesus Christ.

Answer 4

There is no such thing as the Trinity, This is largest lie that Satan uses to keep people from knowing who the True God is, if he can do this, he's got you.

He has cleverly kept a large proportion of mankind in darkness by means of false religion, making them think that they are serving God. Lacking in accurate knowledge of God and in love for truth, they may be attracted by mystical and emotional religious services or be impressed by powerful works.

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36) How do these words confirm that Jesus is not Almighty God?

Jesus says that the Father knows more than the Son does. If Jesus were part of Almighty God, however, he would know the same facts as his Father. So, then, the Son and the Father cannot be equal. Yet, some will say: ‘Jesus had two natures. Here he speaks as a man.’ But even if that were so, what about the holy spirit? If it is part of the same God as the Father, why does Jesus not say that it knows what the Father knows?

1st of all Jesus said: He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.

Jesus’ being called the “only-begotten Son” does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not God’s sons, for they are called sons as well. However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of his Father, the firstborn Son was unique, different from all others of God’s sons, all of whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn Son. So “the Word” was Jehovah’s “only-begotten Son” in a particular sense,

Jesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3;


Rev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, why did God have to give the revelation to Jesus, if he is God? .

Does the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty? Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)

John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”

1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven.

A person who is really seeking to know the truth about God is not going to search the Bible hoping to find a text that he can construe as fitting what he already believes. He wants to know what God’s Word itself says. He may find some texts that he feels can be read in more than one way, but when these are compared with other Biblical statements on the same subject their meaning will become clear. It should be noted at the outset that most of the texts used as “proof” of the Trinity actually mention only two persons, not three; so even if the Trinitarian explanation of the texts were correct, these would not prove that the Bible teaches the Trinity.

Answer 5

Since as you said, Jesus is the image of God,

When did it become acceptable to worship images?

Did you know if you believe the glory of Jesus to greater than an image, you are being blinded by Satan.

2 Cor 4:4in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Jesus is the essence of God:

"ONE IN ESSENCE, NOT IDENTICAL PERSONS"

‘ESSENCE’
MW dictionary, essence: "the individual, real, or ultimate nature of a thing especially as OPPOSED to its existence (caps by me)

: one that possesses or exhibits a quality in abundance AS IF in concentrated form " (caps by me)


To believe Jesus is the essence of God, means Jesus is a picture of God, or reflects the qualities of God.

This does not mean Jesus is God.
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Answer 6

I cannot understand the trinity, well. I wonder, then How can the common people of Christianity to do so! If trinity is a basic belief of Christianity, then why it didn't proclaimed in Bible , clearly?

Answer 7

One small correction. You say the trinity is scriptural. It is not according to the Hebrew Scriptures. According to the Greek Scriptures it might be, but even that is not definitively true.

Answer 8

The word "trinity" never appears in the Bible. Therefore, it is not scriptural.

The "we" and "us" in Genesis is the "Royal We", not a self-reference to the Trinity. The Royal We is when a monarch (in this case, God) refers to themselves in the plural. Such as when Queen Victoria would say, "We are not amused." She is referring only to herself, but since she is queen, she uses "we" instead of "I".

Answer 9

There is no worse blindness than that of the one that just don't want to see.

Answer 10

I have a friend who calls himself "Ernie", "Joe" and "Pauline", depending upon who's "out" today.

Of course, he's schizophrenic.......