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1 John 4:12 At no time has anyone beheld God.
John 1:18 No man has seen God at any time

John gave no further explanation explaining that Jesus was God in the flesh right?

Do you honestly believe that John thought Jesus was God or God's Son?

2007-09-17 06:03:03 · 11 answers · asked by Jason W 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

If John thought Jesus was God he would not have said this.
John saw Jesus.

2007-09-17 06:43:36 · update #1

11 answers

No, in fact Jesus on more than 1 occasion,
called himself God's Son.--John 4:25,26; 14:28

One Mediator--1 Tim 2:5,6

@ John 17:26 When Jesus says:
"I have made your name known to my followers."
He wasn't merely,
saying God's name w/ no attachment to this divine name.
He was directing,
all his followers; to his God & Father, Jehovah.
Not taking worship, nor credit,
for the things he taught, & did.

Even on the occasions that God spoke from heaven
He clearly identified Jesus as His own special Son.--
There on the mountain w/
James, John & Peter---Matt 17:1-5.

Also again, we see Jehovah clearly identifying His Son---
@ Jesus' Baptism God's own voice
was heard from heaven saying:
"this is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved."------Matt 3:17

Jesus always did what was right.
He did not pretend to be some1 he was not.
He did not tell ppl that he was God.
The angel Gabriel had told Mary that Jesus would be called the Son of God.
Jesus himself said that he was God's Son.
And he did not tell ppl that he knew more than his Father.
He said: "The Father is greater than I am."--John 14:28

John was a close friend & follower of Jesus
what would make him think Jesus was God?
NOthing!

It is true we cannot see God.
The Bible says:
"No man, woman or child on earth can see God."-----
And he added: "You may not see my face,
because no man may see me and yet live---Ex 33:20


No man has seen God at any time;
the only-begotten god
who is in the bosum [position] with the Father
is the one that has explained Him.---John 1:18
No, John did NOT believe Jesus was God, YHWH.

2007-09-24 11:07:14 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

Why was John the Baptist awaiting for Jesus at the water's edge in the first place. My recollections is that God had told John the Baptist to baptise Jesus and cleanse his sole for the coming crucifixion.

Maybe John had jumped the gun and waited till the last moment to take Jesus confession from loving Mary Magdalen more than the other disciples. Oh that couldn't be John had lost his head before Jesus meet his maker.

2007-09-25 04:05:40 · answer #2 · answered by Drop short and duck 7 · 0 0

Not for an instant. Not even at John 1:1. There, according to some Bibles, it says: "

1808: “and the word was a god.” The New Testament in an Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome’s New Translation: With a Corrected Text.

1864: “and a god was the word.” The Emphatic Diaglott, interlinear reading, by Benjamin Wilson.

1928: “and the Word was a divine being.” La Bible du Centenaire, L’Evangile selon Jean, by Maurice Goguel.

1935: “and the Word was divine.” The Bible—An American Translation, by J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed.

1946: “and of a divine kind was the Word.” Das Neue Testament, by Ludwig Thimme.

1950: “and the Word was a god.” New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures.

1958: “and the Word was a God.” The New Testament, by James L. Tomanek.

1975: “and a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word.” Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Siegfried Schulz.

1978: “and godlike kind was the Logos.” Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider.

John 1:1 highlights the quality of the Word, that he was “divine,” “godlike,” “a god,” but not Almighty God. This harmonizes with the rest of the Bible, which shows that Jesus, here called “the Word” in his role as God’s Spokesman, was an obedient subordinate sent to earth by his Superior, Almighty God.

When charged by opposers with ‘making himself God,’ Jesus’ reply was: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’? If he called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came, and yet the Scripture cannot be nullified, do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and dispatched into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, I am God’s Son?” (Joh 10:31-37) Jesus there quoted from Psalm 82, in which human judges, whom God condemned for not executing justice, were called “gods.” (Ps 82:1, 2, 6, 7) Thus, Jesus showed the unreasonableness of charging him with blasphemy for stating that he was, not God, but God’s Son.

After Thomas conclude that Jesus was God after Thomas had said to Jesus: "My Lord and my God"? (John 20:28) No! In verse 31, John said: "“These are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, [not God, but] the Son of God."

John also wrote at 1 John 5:5: "Who is the one that conquers the world but he who has faith that Jesus is the Son of God?

At Rev. 1:1, John wrote: "The revelation by Jesus Christ , which God gave him." So how could Jesus be God if God gave Jesus the revelation?

2007-09-24 12:41:31 · answer #3 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 2 0

First, the name of Jesus is a translated from Joshua and Yeshua which is the name of God, Yahweh. His name alone ascribes deity to Him. Secondly, LOGOS which is the Greek translation for Word, is more than just a literary meaning, but in the Greek mind as the eternal reason for existence. John is applying this to Jesus to convey to the Greeks the preexistence and deity of Jesus. If you read John 1:1 carefully the word order is not correct. O' Theos pros O' Logos. The God was The Word, ascribing deity to Jesus as being God. This hardly what I would qualify as baiting.

2016-05-17 05:33:31 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No. The Apostle John knew that Jesus Christ was God's Son.

2007-09-24 15:15:50 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

If he didn't, the test he used to determine whether spirits were from God or not was meaningless:

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

What kind of test is this if Jesus was merely a man? EVERY man comes "in the flesh" and no spirit would try to deny that.

2007-09-17 06:12:28 · answer #6 · answered by Rossonero NorCal SFECU 7 · 0 1

No John never believe that Jesus was God. the Apostle always state that he is Jehovah Son.

2007-09-24 14:10:39 · answer #7 · answered by lydia 3 · 2 0

Come, come come! At least be intellectually honest. You give us 1 isolated quote from all of John's writings to defend a position so indefensible one would have to conclude you are either deliberately obfuscating, or you are just shockingly ignorant.

John's writing REPEATEDLY tell us that Jesus is God. John stresses the full deity of Jesus more than any New Testament writer. I would go into the scores of PASSAGES--not single verses lifted out and left to stand on their own--where John teaches the deity of Jesus, but your mind is obviously not open to the Lord.

2007-09-25 03:01:39 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Yes.


"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

John 10:30: "I and the Father are one." Or, "He who has seen me has seen the Father" (John 14:9). Or, "All that the Father has is mine" (John 16:15). Or, "The Jews sought all the more to kill him, because he not only broke the Sabbath but also called God his Father, making himself equal with God" (John 5:18). Or, "[Jesus], though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped" (Phil. 2:6).

Jesus is both God and man. Some verses, such as these last five, refer exclusively to his Godhead. Others refer to his humanity. So far as he is God, Jesus is equal to the Father. Christ’s human nature, though, is created and is therefore inferior to the Father. But to focus on this aspect of Christ to the exclusion of his divine nature is a gross misunderstanding of who and what the Bible says Jesus Christ is.

2007-09-17 06:20:28 · answer #9 · answered by SpiritRoaming 7 · 2 4

He knew something was coming, and then when he seen him a man, he said well something else must be coming and then they CUT HIM OFF.
Peace upon Yahya A.s. inshAllah ya Rub!

2007-09-24 15:45:10 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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