Monotheism is the true belief in the God of Abraham which is why Jews and Muslims do not believe in the Trinity.
"The three-in-one/one-in-three mystery of Father, Son and Holy Ghost made tritheism official. The subsequent almost-deification of the Virgin Mary made it quatrotheism . . . Finally, cart-loads of saints raised to quarter-deification turned Christianity into plain old-fashioned polytheism. By the time of the Crusades, it was the most polytheistic religion to ever have existed, with the possible exception of Hinduism.
This untenable contradiction between the assertion of monotheism and the reality of polytheism was dealt with by accusing other religions of the Christian fault.
The Church - Catholic and later Protestant - turned aggressively on the two most clearly monotheistic religions in view - Judaism and Islam - and persecuted them as heathen or pagan.
The external history of Christianity consists largely of accusations that other religions rely on the worship of more than one god and therefore not the true God.
These pagans (JEWS AND MUSLIMS) must therefore be converted, conquered and/or killed for their own good in order that they benefit from the singularity of the Holy Trinity, plus appendages."
-- The Doubter's Companion (John Ralston Saul)
2007-09-17 05:15:01 · 19 answers · asked by Mithrianity 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Why the Trinity? God Himself is a mystery. Let monotheists explain the existence of God then I will explain the Trinity.
Also, let the Jews and the Muslims explain why God refers to Himself as "us" and "we" in Torah and Quran respectively (in their English translations unless they can maintain they have been wrongly translated).
2007-09-17 05:36:58 · answer #1 · answered by Andy Roberts 5 · 0⤊ 2⤋
"Monotheism is the true belief in the God of Abraham which is why Jews and Muslims do not believe in the Trinity."
The trinity is one God, no matter how many times SOME Jews and Muslims (among others) repeat the lie that it isn't. One God, three "Persons".
"The three-in-one/one-in-three mystery of Father, Son and Holy Ghost made tritheism official."
The same lie, merely repeated again.
"The Church - Catholic and later Protestant - turned aggressively on the two most clearly monotheistic religions in view - Judaism and Islam - and persecuted them as heathen or pagan."
As regretful as such persecution was, it was not the result of accusations of polytheism, but refusal to acknowledge the divinity of Jesus.
"These pagans (JEWS AND MUSLIMS) must therefore be converted, conquered and/or killed for their own good in order that they benefit from the singularity of the Holy Trinity, plus appendages."
And certainly not a single Jew nor Muslim attempted to convert, conquer and/or kill Christians? And there are no "appendages" to the Trinity.
"we Jews gave up trying to figure out how 3 = 1"
If you Jews can't figure out how 3 "persons" = 1 God, do you also have a hard time figuring how 3 feet = 1 yard? The trinity does not state that 3 of "x" = 1 of "x", but rather 3 of "x" = 1 of "y".
"Christianity is a polytheistic religion"
Simply repeating the lie again doesn't make it true.
"Christians are completely unaware of it"
We can't be aware of something that isn't true.
"and staunchly deny it."
Because it isn't true.
"God is ONE."
Which is exactly what Christians believe. But then again, "a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be ONE flesh."
"He needs no partners, no personalities, no persons. He has no sons, needs no sons."
Strawman, since trinitarians don't claim that God needs any of these, but rather that's how He has revealed Himself.
"Search as you may, you will not find one scripture that uses the word Trinity...."
Irrelevant. The real question is whether scripture AS A WHOLE supports the doctrine of the trinity.
2007-09-17 05:43:03 · answer #2 · answered by Deof Movestofca 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Why would Christians care about 'Jewish scholars' and their views on Christianity?
The following is laughably and patently false:
"The subsequent almost-deification of the Virgin Mary made it quatrotheism . . . Finally, cart-loads of saints raised to quarter-deification turned Christianity into plain old-fashioned polytheism. By the time of the Crusades, it was the most polytheistic religion to ever have existed".
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2007-09-17 06:42:25 · answer #3 · answered by The Cub 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
real Christianity teaches monotheism. The trinity teaches polytheism. there is no longer one verse interior the Bible the place Jesus (the founding father of Christianity) pronounced that God advance into triune and that he advance into the 2d person of the trinity. rather of asserting that the daddy, Son, and holy spirit made God, he pronounced at John 17:3 that his Father advance into the only real God. The trinity, on the different hand, promotes polytheism. It teaches that there is a separate God the daddy, a separate God the Son, and a separate God the holy spirit. what share gods is that? 3! If the Bible teaches the trinity, ask your self: Why are Christians informed to wish just to the daddy part of God rather of the full godhead? Matt. 6:9. Why is it that purely one part of God knows the day of judgment, at the same time as the different 2 areas of a similar God are purely as plenty in the dark because of the fact the angels? Matt. 24:36 Why is it that one part of God died and stayed lifeless for 3 days? Matt. sixteen:21 Why is it that one part of God (the holy spirit) did no longer totally comprehend the two the daddy or the Son? Matt. 11:27 real Christians additionally reject pagan trip journeys like Easter, Christmas, and Halloween. in addition they shun the bypass, a pagan image that predates Christianity by hundreds of years.
2016-10-04 21:32:04 · answer #4 · answered by cris 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Trinity doctrine includes the following definite ideas:
1. There are said to be three divine persons—the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit—in the Godhead.
2. Each of these separate persons is said to be eternal, none coming before or after the other in time.
3. Each is said to be almighty, with none greater or lesser than the other.
4. Each is said to be omniscient, knowing all things.
5. Each is said to be true God.
6. However, it is said that there are not three Gods but only one God.
I invite you to search the Bible, especially the 27 books of the Christian Greek Scriptures, to see for yourself if Jesus and his disciples taught a Trinity. As you search, ask yourself:
Can I find any scripture that says that God is made up of three distinct persons, Father, Son, and holy spirit, but that the three are only one God?
Can I find any scripture that says that the Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom?
Search as you may, you will not find one scripture that uses the word Trinity, nor will you find any that says that Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom. Not even a single scripture says that the Son is equal to the Father in those ways—and if there were such a scripture, it would establish not a Trinity but at most a “duality.” Nowhere does the Bible equate the holy spirit with the Father.
2007-09-17 06:02:03 · answer #5 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
This has been explained a gazillion times. Christians believe
in One and only One God. One God manifest in 3 Persons.
Why would it seem so difficult to understand this. I'll tell you why,
because the human brain can not understand it. It is eventually something that must be accepted by faith. God would not be very much of a God if the human mind could understand Him completely.
I Cr 13;8a
Concerning the persecution of Jews and Muslims by Christians, well, this is a sad fact of history and does no
credit to Christendom. But as Christians, we live and learn.
If we will yield our selves to the love of God we will certainly
overcome evil with good.
2007-09-17 05:23:34 · answer #6 · answered by ? 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
(1) the Jews were blinded to the reality of Jesus' divine nature (all part of the prophecy of the Old Testament)
(2) muhammed understood very little, if anything, about Judaism, the Old Testament, the New Testament, or Christianity when he was inventing islam and allah.
The concept of the trinity is difficult. It's more difficult when a person is following a false god.
Christians do not, and certainly should not, follow the "advice" of the Jews as far as the divinity of Christ is concerned. Same said for muslims.
2007-09-17 05:23:19 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
the jewish scholars are wrong. there is only one God that is revealed to us in 3.
Like this; God is the tent, Jesus is the door, and the Holy Spirit is the space created within......all 3 are part of each other while at the ame time, different....we cannot understand it, it's beyond our capabilities.
As far as the power struggle in the crusades, etc....that was and is plain error and wrongness committed by so called Christians, using the old natural way of man, that is mostly all about selfish pride....they were wrong
2007-09-17 05:47:48 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Judaism holds that believing the Trinity is idolatry for Jews...not for non-Jews.
And with all due respect to John Ralston Saul, he is a bloody idiot and it is teachings such as his that has caused 2000 years of unneeded bloodshed. May he, and all that think as he does, have their names erased from history.
2007-09-17 05:21:20 · answer #9 · answered by mzJakes 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
the trinity isnt polytheism because they are all God. Its God the father God the son and God the holy spirit. Its three parts that make up one.
2007-09-17 05:21:24 · answer #10 · answered by Reshonda P 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋