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So jesus christ died on the cross for our sins right? So does that mean i can do whatever i want and its ok? Hes already paid the price so does that mean i have to? This is probably a dumb question but a serious atheist wants to know.

2007-09-16 15:50:56 · 35 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

ah why thank you lucid!

2007-09-16 16:33:13 · update #1

stop telling me it doesnt matter because im atheist. If youre not gonna take my question seriously, dont answer it.

2007-09-16 16:36:00 · update #2

detailgirl, you might not be the best answer but you sure as hell deserve a "good job".

2007-09-16 16:40:01 · update #3

you too brooklandpark!

2007-09-16 16:46:58 · update #4

7....good call bro.

2007-09-16 16:53:21 · update #5

35 answers

Your question is a good one, and clearly it is honest, as well.
Jesus died as the penalty for our sins- yes
But this is not license to sin. No- trusting Jesus for salvation means that we know that we have access to Heaven based on faith in Him. We don't worry about doing well enough that our good works get us into Heaven. We still strive to obedience to all God wants from us, but we know that when we do wrong, God will forgive us on the basis of what Jesus did at the cross. But, as believers in Christ, doing right matters because we belong to Christ, and our lives should reflect this. And, if a person really believes in Christ and all He did, one would naturally want to do right all the more. Sure, we stumble. We mess up. But, we have a relationship with Jesus, and we want to honor Him. So, you see now that we live rightly not to gain access to Heaven- Jesus took care of that- but because of the relationship we have with the Savior.

2007-09-16 16:17:50 · answer #1 · answered by Cyndi 3 · 3 0

Good question. Yes, Jesus died for all people on the Cross and since Jesus is both God and Man at the same time, you can say that God died on the Cross for everyone.

Jesus' dying on the Cross makes it "possible" for everyone to enter Heaven. That doesn't neccessarily mean that everyone "will" go to Heaven, even if they say they believe in Jesus. This is because salvation doesn't just happen in a "moment" when you accept Jesus into your heart (even though that is part of it), salvation is a "process" that takes a lifetime.

If salvation happened in a moment, that would mean that you have an automatic ticket to Heaven and you can live your life any way you want (like you said). What is happening here is that people are judging themselves before they even die, and we cannot do that. Only Jesus can judge whether we will be in Heaven or Hell. If everyone who believed in Jesus did whatever they wanted, those people could theoretically do all sorts of evil acts and still get into Heaven. This doesn't make sense.

This is why salvation is not a moment, but a process. It is NOT OK to do whatever we feel like doing if what we do consists of grave sin or evil acts, and grave sin/evil acts can keep us from Heaven, even if we believe in Jesus as the Son of God. Belief in Jesus does not mean that we can do whatever we want and still get into Heaven. Belief in Christ calls us to live good lives and constantly grow in holiness and when we die, if we have shown love for Christ and one another throughout our lives, that is when our salvation takes place.

2007-09-16 16:29:25 · answer #2 · answered by 7 2 · 0 0

Unfortunately there is some confusion on this due to the Protestants making up their own doctrine and breaking off from the Church. Since the U.S. is largely, if not mostly, Protestant, Protestant doctrine is what most people are more familiar with. According to the Protestant doctrine, it seems you've got it right: they (most of them anyway) believe that once you're saved, you're always saved, even if you go on a baby-killing spree five minutes before you die. So logic would dictate that there is no need to keep the commandments in order to heaven, as long as once in your life you sincerely believed in Jesus for, say, at least five minutes or so at some point in your life.

Of course, some of them will say, if you went on a baby-killing spree, that would show that you were never saved in the first place. That I don't understand: Are they saying that true Christians don't sin after they're saved? Of course I could not go along with that: all Christians sin.

The more ancient Christian doctrine is that a Christian believer is held to an even higher standard than a nonbeliever. For a Christian to commit a serious sin incurs more guilt than for a non-Christian to commit the same sin, because a Christian should know better, and also because he has received God's mercy and grace and flushed it down the toilet. He has known how good God is, and yet still spat in God's face.

So the more historically established Christian doctrine is, yes, Jesus died on the cross for our sins. That means that his death enables us to receive salvation. But once we have received it, we have to change our lives and avoid sin. If we don't, then we might forfeit the salvation we had gained.

2007-09-16 16:10:26 · answer #3 · answered by Agellius CM 3 · 0 3

Of course not. What it means is there is always a punishment for sin. It must be paid. Jesus paid it. Think of the fine print on ads. The fine print says that : 1) you must believe in Jesus as your savior. 2) you must repent for your sins and let the holy spirit in your heart. 3) Accept the gift from your creator.
If you do these things, you wont want to sin. It is a process that changes your heart.
Finally, Being an Atheist nullify said agreement because if you accept Jesus as your lord and savior you are now a Christian.

2007-09-16 16:03:33 · answer #4 · answered by tonydacarny 1 · 1 1

Romans 6
1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Actually a very good question and not dumb. People had the same question during the time of the early church.
Just because He paid the price is no reason to continue to sin. Continuing willfully in sin is a sign of backsliding or no real salvation in the first place.

2007-09-16 16:02:41 · answer #5 · answered by idiot 3 · 1 2

Anyone can choose to do anything he or she chooses to do.
But; remember, we ALL will have to stand before Jesus Christ in the Judgement, yet to come at His return to this earth. God offers us choice - we can choose to either, do what is right or we can choose to negate the right and do wrong. We will be held both, accountable & responsible for our choices made. Christ paid the eternal penalty for our sins, so that we can be atoned [made at one with God] when we become converted (accept God's grace extended to us).
God, the Father, is Holy & no human nor animal sacrifice would be acceptable to Him; therefore, Jesus Christ, who never sinned, was suitable for the sacrifice acceptable to God, the Father, for all of our collective sins.

2007-09-16 16:21:34 · answer #6 · answered by guraqt2me 7 · 0 0

Yes, Christ died on the cross for our sins to return us to communion with God who cannot tolerate sin because we cannot live a perfect life. The penalty of spiritual death for sin is paid by Christ. His sacrifice is not license to sin. One who genuinely believes in Christ seeks to live in a manner pleasing to God. Because we cannot as sinful imperfect human beings be perfect and follow all of Divine Law, Christ's sacrifice extends God's mercy and grace to believers. A growing true believer will over time seek to weed out sinful attitudes and behavior to honor Christ's sacrifice. It's a lifelong process not a one-time fix.

Note: Salvation is not dependent on a changed life, but the changes are an indicator of salvation. EVERYBODY sins.

2007-09-16 16:08:59 · answer #7 · answered by detailgirl 4 · 4 0

The bible says that everything is permissible but not everything is beneficial. We do have freedom to do what we want, but then we have to question if we are sincere about following Christ. If we are sincere, the sins of the past are no longer appealing to us. Our joy comes in drawing closer to the Lord. For only in Him do we have complete peace and an abundant life.

2007-09-16 16:31:04 · answer #8 · answered by ? 6 · 1 0

The consequence of sin is death. Jesus did that part for us so we have a chance to be with God. You cannot believe in His sacrifice and continue to sin. When you repent of your sin it means to turn away from it, not repeat it. So no, you cannot do whatever you want and think it's ok.

From a human perspective, if your child (or friend, someone you knew) lied to you and said I'm sorry. You'd forgive them. If they lied again, you'd forgive them and say it's ok. But if this action continued, you'd get to the point where you say, "I don't believe you. I don't think you're sorry." God knows what is in our hearts and if we are really trying.

God Bless.

2007-09-16 16:08:16 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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2016-11-14 15:52:04 · answer #10 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

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