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…as a religious leader, god, or demigod, be practicing his religion i.e. Judaism?

I don’t think there would be much opposition to the statement that Y'shua was a devoutly religious Jew.
Even the Christian gospels indicate this clearly. He was called a rabbi (Judaic religious teacher). He was very knowledgeable of the Judaic religious texts. He followed the Torah and observed religious feasts like Passover (the last supper was a Passover feast). In the last days of his life he drove the moneychangers from the temple because he felt they were defiling this holiest of Judaic sites. He regarded himself and was regarded by others as a Judaic prophet.

So why do Christians, the self-professed followers, follow a different, religion (or group of religions) to "Jesus"? Why do they have Popes, heretics, saint, monks, nuns, George and the dragon, Santa Claus, crusades, televangelists, Christmas trees, the trinity, virgin births, purgatory, etc; all the trappings of Christianity has?

2007-09-16 13:18:45 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

MAYBE just MAYBE shouldn't our faith be Judaism with the fulfillment of Messiah? (Messianic Judaism)

2007-09-16 13:19:34 · update #1

In the time of Jesus there was diversity in Judaism, there were, for example, Sadducees, Pharisees, Essenes, and Zealots. After his death there were also 2 (at least) varieties of Judaism that were started by Jesus’s family and disciples, based on Jesus’s teachings Ebonites and Nazarenes. However all these groups were Judaic in their theology and religious practices, and certainly did not resemble at all Christian theology or practices.

2007-09-16 13:21:04 · update #2

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>>As Jesus devoutly practiced Judaism as his religion, shouldn’t those that follow Jesus (Christians)…?
…as a religious leader, god, or demigod, be practicing his religion i.e. Judaism?

NO. JEWS should practice Judaism.
NOT gentiles.
We do not run a church, we are not open to all. If you want to practice judaism, become a Jew.
But please be aware that conversion is not allowed to those who believe in any foreign Gd. Your Gd is a foreign gd.
>>
He was called a rabbi

NO, THAT IS INSERTED BY GENTILES WHO WISH TO HEBRAIZE XTIANITY IN ORDER TO VALIDATE IT. IT DOESN'T WORK AND IS INSULTING. DO NOT USE OUR RELIGION BECAUSE YOURS LACKS.FIND OUT THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE JEWISH MESSIAH. WHEN YOU REALIZE XTIANITY IS WRONG, YOU ARE FREE TO CONTACT AN ORTHODOX RABBI REGARDING CONVERSION. UNTIL THEN, LEAVE JUDAISM TO JEWS. THANKS.

2007-09-16 13:31:57 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 5

If you read the new testament you will see that the Holy Spirit was available to those that were following the Judaic laws and circumcision and to the Gentiles IF they dedicated their lives to God and followed Jesus. Christians that truly love God and want to do his will are going to follow the 10 commandments etc. but the dietary laws and other laws were laid out to the Jews only. Peter's vision in Acts 10 talks about what is clean and what is not so the Gentile believers were not forced to follow the Judaic laws. Many of the Jewish laws that were added beyond the 10 commandments were added by men and not God and Jesus often pointed out they were missing the reason and relationship of God's purpose. There are about 100,000 Messianic Jews (Jews that believe Jesus was the messiah) that still follow the Judaic laws today.

2016-05-21 04:47:43 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

Brother, We gentile believers in Yeshua have no more burden to bear than those commandments which were laid down in Acts 15. Also we are to obey the commandments of God since Jesus said if ye love me keep my commandments. The Mosaic ceremonial law of sacrifice was done away with when Jesus our Passover lamb died on the cross. Now with that said I agree with much of what you say concerning the feasts. I think we Christians should know all about the Jewish roots of our Lord and the Bible. At my church we celebrate the passover every year, Our Pastor blows the shofar every Sunday before the sermon, I wear a Jewish prayer shawl at times when I pray and read the Bible, we keep all the festivals/feasts in our hearts, and we celebrate the Jewishness of our Lord and Christ. Some of us are also students of Hebrew to better understand the Torah and the Prophets. Just because it is not required of gentiles to follow Jewish customs does not make it wrong to do so out of honor to the God of Israel. The big shame comes when Christ is removed from being the center of our worship and Jewishness takes his place. This ought not to be. So yes if taken in proper perspective gentiles can celebrate like Messianic Jews do, but Jesus must always remain preeminent. Many Christians in the US including Roman Catholics, Methodists, Lutherens, & Presbyterians, and also other groups like Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses have a belief called "replacement theology" . This is a false teaching that the Church has replaced Israel and is now the recipient of all the promises made to Israel and to the Fathers, (Abraham .Isaac, and Jacob) as (the promises) are recorded by the Hebrew prophets and the New Testament. They are actually anti-Semitic and do not support God's chosen people. I do not believe this. I believe that the duty of Gentile and Jewish believers is to support Israel and that (as Paul said in Romans 11:26 )

And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

This will happen, how and when it will happen is God's business, but I believe that it is going to happen when as it is written in Zechariah 12:10

And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

As to why we have all those trappings you mentioned, remember you can not describe all of us by what some of us do. Dont put Christian Zionists in the same camp as those you mention above. We love Israel and the Jews.

2007-09-16 14:10:25 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Hmm good point, but Messianic Judaism is nothing but a new denomination of protestantism. Plus the Essenes and Nazarenes believed in views contrary to what your gospels say, they also practiced real strange rituals (YE even stranger than the ones practiced by modern Christians). Also if the Jesus in the NT existed it seems that he was he to start a new religion.

2007-09-16 13:27:03 · answer #4 · answered by Bibiana La Atheist 1 · 1 1

I went to Catholic school and I got two different teachings on this. The first is that we should be celebrating Passover along with the other Jewish traditions in addition to what Jesus taught. Jesus' teaching altered some Jewish tradition, for example restrictions on food, but other than that Christions should have stuck to Judaism. The reason they didn't is because the Christian faith was seperated from the Jewish faith by the Jewish leaders originally, and then sought to define themselves as their own religion later, so they stopped celebrating the Jewish celebrations. Another reason I had been given was that Jesus represented a New Convenant, so Christians only had to be concerned with what Jesus did, with Passover being replaced by the Eucharist in Mass, for example.

2007-09-16 13:30:55 · answer #5 · answered by retropopzero 2 · 2 2

Paul teaches us that the Law was a tutor (Greek pedagogue) to lead us to Christ.
Once we have found Christ, we don't need the tutor anymore.

We are under a New Covenant, which brings life.
The Old Covenant only produced death.

"He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, fading though it was, will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? f the ministry that condemns men is glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness!For what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory.And if what was fading away came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which lasts!"

II Corinthians 3:6-11

"For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. But God found fault with the people and said:
"The time is coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah.
9It will not be like the covenant
I made with their forefathers
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them, declares the Lord.
This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
No longer will a man teach his neighbor,
or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,'
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more."

By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear."

Hebrews 8:7-13

2007-09-16 13:28:46 · answer #6 · answered by wefmeister 7 · 3 1

If He were 100 percent devoutly Jewish then why did He continually make the Pharisees mad about doing things on the Sabbath? He did change things....in fact, He told us He would "Make All Things New." Novus Ordo ... a New Order that was the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy, such as Isaiah.

And, it wasn't too long after the followers of Christ....Christians, as they were first called at Antioch, were ejected from having worship in the Jewish Temples by the Jewish authorities. That is the start of Christianity as a religion of its own.

2007-09-16 13:23:59 · answer #7 · answered by Augustine 6 · 2 1

I personally think we lose a lot by not having a closer relationship with Judaism. One of the reasons for the seperation occured in about 65 CE when many of the Jews claimed that one of the Jewish military leaders was to be considered the Messiah and those who were believers in Jesus could not take that.Then there are the comments about Jesus in the Talmud. ( I have a Jewish friend who still holds that Christianity is a Jewish heresy). By the way much of what you are refering to is Catholicism. I myself would like to see our two beliefs returning together ,as much as possible.

2007-09-16 13:30:53 · answer #8 · answered by David F 5 · 1 1

A jewish man approaches his rabbi & says "please help my son, he is turning his back on Judaism & heading toward Christianity" "I'll take this up with God & get back to you", replies the Rabbi.
After many hours of prayer, the Rabbi phones the concerned parent saying, "God said He has no answer as He is having the same problem with his son".

2007-09-16 13:28:23 · answer #9 · answered by MJR 5 · 2 1

Jesus was born into a Jewish community, He did not practice Judaism, He practiced and preached the Word of God, the kingdom of heaven. The Words we first knew when we were spirits.

2007-09-16 13:25:25 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

the laws and stories in the Old Testament in part were shadows of what was to come and Jesus was the one casting the shadows

in a sense the spiirit of the law can and is followed by Jesus followers and better because of the new life from Jesus
in a sense the law is fulfilled by Jesus perfect atonement

2007-09-16 13:24:43 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

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