I do not dislike Jehovah's Witnesses, because I am a Jehovah Witness.
The content of that web page is absolutely "true"
Most comments on Q&A pertaining to JW's come from disfellowshipped persons, have you noticed most of their answers are the first ones, it's like they have their fingers on the keyboard, waiting for a ??? about Jehovah Witnesses, most rebuttal answers by JW's are usually some of the last ones. My answers are mainly one of the last.
2007-09-16 08:47:50
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answered by BJ 7
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What crazy formatting, and a lot of skirting around the facts.
If you are interested in the truth about what the Watchtower said look at http://www.jehovah.net.au/truth.html
For instance the Watch Tower 1922 May 15 p.150 "We have no doubt whatever in regard to the chronology relating to the dates of 1874, 1914, 1918, and 1925." Now the teaching on every single one of these dates is different.
Was it truth that Jesus started ruling in 1874? Was it truth that Armageddon would occur in 1914? Was it truth that Abraham was to be resurrected onto earth in 1925? If not, then the Watchtower has not been promoting truth but lies, failed predictions and falsehoods.
There have been over 30 dates doctrine that have been changed or dropped entirely. From the number of ongoing changes, often back and forth, sometimes with significant doctrine, that the Watchtower Society is not spirit directed but stumbling around in the dark.
2007-09-18 00:29:31
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answered by Anonymous
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WHO ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?
The central CORE doctrine of the Watchtower,the reason they came into existence was to proclaim Jesus Christ second coming in 1914.They will now deny that they ever made this claim,that's called BAIT AND SWITCH
For 50 plus years the masthead of the Watchtower,viewed when you opened up to the inside front cover would read as follows:
"This magazine(Watchtower) builds up confidence in the Creators PROMISE of a peaceful and secure "new world" before the generation "that witnessed" the EVENTS OF 1914 passes away"".
By their own admission the Watchtowers has published this dogma in hundreds of millions of pieces of their own literature.
They deleted this false Adventist millerite derived prophecy in 1995 because it had FAILED.
The Watchtower leadership has "purged" hundreds of thousands of followers over the years for failing to uphold the 1914 (Jesus came to power) loyalty oath to this now defunct dogma.
The Bible clearly warns to turn away from false prophets.
Learn more about the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses http://www.freeminds.org
2007-09-16 19:29:42
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answered by USA 1 2
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You seek only those who "dislikes JW's", and yet it is not the individual member of this group that many dislike...it is the ORGANIZATION of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (WBTS). It is not the individual JW that develops what they teach it is the WBTS. It is not the individual JW that flip flops on many teachings it is the WBTS. It is not the individual JW that forces it's individual members to shun those that do not accept the false teachings that the WBTS later decides are actually false, it is the WBTS.
I could spend endless time, energy, and frustration on proving the contents on that site are wrong, but it would be of little value until the individual members of the WBTS have the blinders lifted from their spiritual eyes, then they could see for themselves and not have to have it proven to them. God has certainly removed them from my eyes, for now I see his spiritual truths and they have set me free.
2007-09-17 12:43:20
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answered by Carol D 5
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Dislike Jehovah's Witnesses? What? Christians are called to love all man...We are also called to hate what is unclean..the witness people are fine people for the most part..It is the Governing Body who knowingly deceive who are to be hated.
Bill .....you beat us all to this answer...fingers waiting to type fastest..silly observation...We answer from out minds and the scriptures...You guys go to Watchtower.org and see what they would like for you to say....takes more time.
2007-09-17 12:48:29
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answered by Anonymous
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In answer to your question, I'm going to copy a post left for me on one of my questions by a self professed JW, Bill (who posted above), seeing as it goes both ways:
"Jesus’ disciples are to use discernment in connection with other people, for he says: “Do not give what is holy to dogs, neither throw your pearls before swine.” The truths from God’s Word are holy. They are like figurative pearls. But if some individuals, who are like dogs or swine, show no appreciation for these precious truths, Jesus’ disciples should leave those people and seek out those who are more receptive."
There is no way I could come up on my own with the arrogance of this reply, so I am instead quoting it, as it fits the bill here.
2007-09-17 13:37:06
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answered by PediC 5
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They probably can, on some level. Honestly, allot of what is on the web about one thing or another can easily be disproven though often it is done so by quoting other webpages. Kinda takes the validity out of things.
2007-09-16 20:06:35
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answered by Ish Var Lan Salinger 7
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I like many of the JWs I have met. This is not about the membership - this is about the WTB&TS.
Here I'll start:
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As I mentioned earlier, there has been a lot of criticism over what many opposers have called "false prophecy" in relation to dates e.g. 1874, 1925, 1975. I used the term "so called prophecy" and the reason for this was, as I stated, it depends on if you call it prophecy or interpretation. Here I will show with a few examples that it was not prophecy at all but interpretation.
1. There are far more dates than these four.
> But is not four dates sufficient to spot a false interpreter/ predictor - ahem - a false prophet?
2. Russell and his followers were actually gathered together and waiting and "the end" did not come
>Is prediction/prophecy/"interpretation" are these really one and the same as being juggle for the purpose of the writer?
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Many opponents of the Witnesses will freely quote parts of articles published by WBTS, but they fail to give the full picture. I am not going to go into the reasoning behind the interpretations, but show what the WTBTS actually said with a few examples.
1. Sources are usually cited by opponets. There is not a reason to post a full article when the essence is in a few lines.
What is put out by the WTB&TS is approved by the Governing Body (GB).
2. Trying to explain away doctrinal flip-flops and dates on end time prophecy is called stepping backwards and apologizing.
3. Of course - do not go into the reasoning, suspend reality and let the WatchTower Bible and Tract Society predict/interpret/prophesy anything they want and over look the error.
4. Good - let us look at the examples!!
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"We do not object to changing our opinions on any subject, or discarding former application of prophecy, or any other scripture, when we see a good reason for the change,- in fact, it is important that we should be willing to unlearn errors and mere traditions, as to learn truth…. It is our duty to "prove all things"- by the unerring Word,- 'and hold fast to what is good.' " (italics original)
1. Now the GB or WTB&TS reserve the right to change what they teach.
2. This is called "lukewarm" teaching.
3. This is reserving the right to flip-flop.
4. God's word is unerring but the WTB&TS change what they teach when it proves wrong and becomes obvious and is pointed out. In other words they are kept honest by being called on the errant teaching by .... who? Apostates of course!
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1874
As far as 1874 is concerned, it is of note to realise that Russell did not come up with that himself. It was the work of a Mr. Barbour. Russell was convinced of the evidence that Mr. Barbour presented to him in 1876 so he did not prophecy, but interpreted the works of someone else. This is seen in this quote from ZIONS Watchtower and Herald of Christ's Presence 15 OCTOBER 1906, 3822.
"I paid Mr. Barbour's expenses to come to see me at Philadelphia (where I had business engagements during the summer of 1876), to show me fully and Scriptural, if he could, that the prophecies indicated 1874 as the date at which the Lord's presence and 'the harvest' began"
1. This is a tool called "redirection".
2. Russell says; "I did not predict this" Barbour did.
Adam said; "The woman gave it to me and I did eat."
3. The harvest? Jesus says in the bible;
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. Matthew 13:30
> Who are the tares? Who are the wheat? Who is gathered first? Who is given place in the barn?
4. Take great care with those who "redirect". They are still responsible for perpetuating the lie.
This paper is poorly written, full of inconsistencies(spelling and otherwise), word manipulation, self deception, justification, and much more.
Each section can be tore done spewed out.
2007-09-16 18:07:22
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answered by troll to troll 7
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Ye gods, that's a painful website! The sheer number of fonts, different font sizes, and colours, and indiscriminate use of bold and italic made my eyes bleed.
Anyway
It just seems to be a bit of backsliding. They made a prophesy, and when it didn't happen, they say "oh, it wasn't a prophesy as such, it was just a prediction".
And this part is false too: "YES they are known through out the world for the good, peaceful, law-abiding results they bring to communities"
They are known throughout the world as hard-pressing evangelicals from a bible-based cult, who approach you at home to give you a sermon you have no interest in hearing, and then leave you with pamphets you're never going to read.
2007-09-16 15:39:06
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answered by Tom :: Athier than Thou 6
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I don't dislike JW's. I just believe they are not Christians. As to the web page it is a bunch of double talk trying to show why the JW's are not wrong.
2007-09-16 15:20:18
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answered by Bible warrior 5
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