2007-09-16 05:13:29 · 20 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Superman fraud: The sky is falling, the sky is falling, your not superman your a little red hen.
John 5:
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
(Don’t worry, if you believe in God you can believe in me.)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
(Jesus is the I am, the way, the truth, & the life (living). You go to the Father but by me (Jesus)).
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
(If you know me you know the Father also: & from now on you know him & have seen him.)
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
(This & John 14: 9 are saying the same: Jesus said, Good grief I tell you over & over & over & over & over & over & over & you still just don’t get it? He that has seen me hath seen the Father how can you be so blind that you say, Show us the Father after I’ve told you that Me & My Father are 1. Don’t believe your own eyes. How about this: If you look at Jesus you look at the Father. Does that help? No. Well geez. Jesus & the Father are 1, soooooooooooooooo Jesus & the Father are the same. Jesus is the body & the Father is the spirit that dwells in Jesus, & the spirit has no man seen. I think surely you can figure the next verse out, but who knows?)
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape (form/figure).
(Why have you not seen his shape/form/figure? Because he is spirit. The Father sent Jesus so you could see Him. I couldn't see the wind except by it's strength.)
John 14:
1: Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
(Don’t worry, if you believe in God you can believe in me.)
6: Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
(Jesus is the I am, the way, the truth, & the life (living). You go to the Father but by me (Jesus)).
9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
(This & John 5:9 are saying the same: Jesus said, Good grief I tell you over & over & over & over & over & over & over & you still just don’t get it? He that has seen me hath seen the Father how can you be so blind that you say, Show us the Father after I’ve told you that, Me & My Father are 1. Don’t believe your own eyes. How about this: If you look at Jesus you look at the Father. Does that help? No. Well geez. Jesus & the Father are 1, soooooooooooooooo Jesus & the Father are the same. Jesus is the body & the Father is the spirit that dwells in Jesus, & the spirit has no man seen.
Reminds me when it was thought the world was flat.
Everyone saying: No, no, no, noooooooo the earth is flat, see the horizon over there it just drops off and you can’t SEE anything but sky past it.
One poor lone guy is saying but I just flew around it in my jet and it is round, here look at this video.
Everyone else says: That’s witchery. That strange box lies. It has a devil in it.
PS: Now what is this GREAT error "WE" made up again?
2007-09-16 06:24:51 · answer #1 · answered by Left Behind 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Oh, yeah, man. In all the centuries of theology and thought and wisdom that has come before you, there has not been a single theological or bible scholar who has EVER saw that supposed "contradition." Get real.
In 5:37, Jesus was saying that up until His life, people in general didn't know the true God of the universe. Instead, they worshiped bits and pieces of Him, mostly the bits and pieces the suited their own needs: just like fundamentalists do today.
In 14:9, Jesus was saying that if Philip had come to know Him, Jesus, then Philip had a pretty good idea about who God the Father was.
Jesus using figures of speech like hyperbole and allegory to make a point: this kind of question is another good reason why fundamentalists who say you have to read every word of the bible literally are full of baloney.
2007-09-16 05:22:14 · answer #2 · answered by Acorn 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
John 14:9 is a metaphor. Jesus paraphrased and put metaphors though out his words. Jesus even said only the ones meant to understand will understand. Ex. It also says when a man and woman are married they are one. That dose not mean they are permitted attached to each other physically; but are one couple, doing all, including children together.
John 14:9 Jesus is saying they have seen the Father through him; because he was sent by God and done everything God has told him to do, Jesus did things God's way, as God wanted.
2007-09-16 05:30:32 · answer #3 · answered by geessewereabove 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There is no error here. Read on in chapter 14:10-11, 28. Here Jesus explains both are in union or agreement with each other. Jesus speaks with the knowledge of and for his Father. But, as vs. 28 says, he was going to return to his Father, who "the Father is greater than I am."
As is true of any organization, anyone in position of authority speaks and represents the leader of that organization. That is especially true of Father and Son organizations. The latter part of vs. 10 shows Jesus spoke what his Father had told him, not what he thought up himself.
2007-09-16 05:32:50 · answer #4 · answered by grnlow 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No you haven't found an error. You have simply made an error. Where do you see any contradiction here? In one place Jesus says that no-one has actually seen the Father. In another place Jesus says that He and the Father are one, so seeing Him is equivalent to seeing the Father. Both passages imply that the Father Himself cannot be seen.
2007-09-16 05:20:30 · answer #5 · answered by PaulCyp 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
No contradiction the first is saying the do not know Goe because they do not believe in him and the second if they know him they should know the father.
Witnesses to Jesus
31 “If I were to testify on my own behalf, my testimony would not be valid. 32 But someone else is also testifying about me, and I assure you that everything he says about me is true. 33 In fact, you sent investigators to listen to John the Baptist, and his testimony about me was true. 34 Of course, I have no need of human witnesses, but I say these things so you might be saved. 35 John was like a burning and shining lamp, and you were excited for a while about his message. 36 But I have a greater witness than John—my teachings and my miracles. The Father gave me these works to accomplish, and they prove that he sent me. 37 And the Father who sent me has testified about me himself. You have never heard his voice or seen him face to face, 38 and you do not have his message in your hearts, because you do not believe me—the one he sent to you.
39 “You search the Scriptures because you think they give you eternal life. But the Scriptures point to me! 40 Yet you refuse to come to me to receive this life.
John 19
9 Jesus replied, “Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and yet you still don’t know who I am? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father! So why are you asking me to show him to you? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words I speak are not my own, but my Father who lives in me does his work through me. 11 Just believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. Or at least believe because of the work you have seen me do.
2007-09-16 05:21:00 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Greetings,
You only wait to find faults how the Jewish authorities did, not to believe.
John 14:
10Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
Remember one thing,Jesus has lived with his disciples,they were all together and thats why he tells Philip: John 14:9: "For a long time i have been with you all;yet you do not know me,Philip? whoever has seen me has seen my father.Why then do you say show us the Father.
In John 5:37 : 37And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form,
Jesus said this to the Jewish authorities,who only had one motive in mind,How they could accuse Jesus.Their minds were all corrupted.And so Jesus said this to them.
2007-09-16 05:41:10 · answer #7 · answered by Nick Carter 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
That is just a small error. A much larger one exists in John 3:3 and John 3:7, but the problem is only a handful of people know why these two verses are problematic for christians.
To help you figure it out, you need to read the passages in the original greek and think about the problem between the greek text and aramaic discussion that would have occured.
2007-09-16 05:18:02 · answer #8 · answered by JerseyRick 6 · 1⤊ 3⤋
You really do not understand what He was saying.John 5:37 was saying they do not know God because they do not believe in Him. Read more.
2007-09-16 05:21:26 · answer #9 · answered by ♥~Onyx~♥ 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You have found nothing - God the Father is Spirit and consuming fire. God the Son is Jesus the Christ in flesh and blood AND BOTH ARE ONE. The Holy Spirit makes 3.
You need to study the Bible, because you are an uneducated individual.
2007-09-16 05:27:36 · answer #10 · answered by Jeancommunicates 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋