Why those that Believe in the Trinity are going to hell.?

Question

Many people do not realize that Yehoshua/Jesus was a Jewish man that practiced the faith and religion of his ancestors, that being Judaism. In order to even qualify as the promised holy prophet, the moshiach, you must fully keep all of the law of Moses and the commands given through the proven prophets. Without doing so that person is disqualified. In this faith that Jesus practiced it teaches that the moshiach is a made being, thus making it imposible for him to be the God of Israel. Lets look at some of these passages in our Tanakh - the real holy scriptures. The famous Micah 5:2 says this:
"But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans of Judah,
out of you will come for Me [Yehowah]
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
during the age of eternity [literally: before the counting of time]."

Please read the rest of this at:
http://heshallgovern.homestead.com/Yahooanswers.html

Your comments are welcomed after reading it.

Answer 1

Those people that have already obviously answered did not go and read Mare-ga'al's website before responding; thus, proving your lack of understanding, but only showing your mis-guided zeal!!!

The people here that believe in the trinity also do not know the fundamental doctrines of Judaism. You know - the very faith that Jesus and his disciples practiced!!!! Jesus never - EVER - proclaimed to be "GOD" in the flesh.

In fact, he rebuked a young man over it - Let's look:

Mark 10
v.17 As he was setting out on a journey, a man ran up to him
and knelt before him, and asked him, "Good teacher,
what shall I do to inherit eternal life?"
18 And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No
one is good except God alone.

Thus, don't the undiscerning people here see that if Jesus is God, why is he then like Peter here by denying it? Maybe, because he isn't "God in the Flesh" as the pagans have translated it into the English bibles. For if he were "God in the Flesh" then God is a liar, for he lied to this person and all those that heard him!!!

The truth of the matter is that Jesus ONLY proclaimed that he came FROM heaven with a message in his mouth by the ONE who sent him, and afterwards was going back to the ONE that sent him, and to re-sit at His right hand. Let's look at those verses:

"He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth Him that sent me," Matt 10:40.

"Yehowah's spirit is upon me, because He hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; He hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted," Luke 4:18.

"Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth Him that sent me," Luke 9:48.

"Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of Him that sent me, and to finish His work," John 4:34.

"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me," John 5:30. This proves he was sent by Someone, and his words are of Someone else; thus, he is a servant and "God" is not a servant to anyone. Stop being blasphemous.

"For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of Him that sent me," John 6:38.

"Jesus answered them, and said, 'My doctrine/teaching is not mine, but His that sent me," John 7:16.

"Then said Jesus unto them, Yet a little while am I with you, and I go unto Him that sent me," John 7:33.

"For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, He gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak," John 12:49.

"But now I go my way to Him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?," John 16:5.

"And now, Father, glorify me in Your Own Presence with the glory that I had with You before the world existed," John 17:5.
This verse states that Jesus could not do this on his own, likewise it states that he lacked the glory he used to have. With that Jesus testifies about the passage found in Psalm 110:1, which is referring to himself before he was dis-ranked from an "el," (which does not always mean "God,") into a mere man. An el in the classic Hebrew faith is a class of spirits that have the ability to create, but only one of those els is the God of Israel, the other el is His son, that is a made being that sits as a prince at the right hand of the KING - the God of Israel!! There are only two els in existence - thus, defining the "us" and "our" in Genesis 1:26 when "they" made only two humans.

This is what the "I AM" means, NOT that Jesus is God!!!

Moving on, Jesus says, "How say they that Christ is David's son? And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, 'Yehowah said unto adonai (one who is over me in rank), Sit thou on My right hand, Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.' David therefore calleth him 'my master [adon-ai]' (meaning: that he was already in existence because David used the word, "my"), how is he then his son?

Thus, Jesus dumbfounded the people with that question, because you cannot be the parent of someone if that someone is already living!!! Many of us Jews miss this or simply deny this to this day!!!

Lastly, this is what Jesus said to the Priests that landed him a capital offense crime. This accusation would be true if he really had been born where they thought he was born, that being Galilee;

"the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the christ, the son of God. Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: Also, I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the son of man sitting on the right hand of POWER," Matt 26.

Don't you people understand that you can NOT preach a monotheistic God; yet, have TWO thrones.

ONE GOD ONLY - Jesus is NOT God
READ www.heshallgovern.com

Thus, ALL trinitarians are pagans, heathens, NON-followers of Jesus and SHALL go to the FIRE!!!

Answer 2

I went and read some of it.
At the beginning; skimmed thru the mid-section;
and then read the end.

I already know Jesus Christ the only-begotten god;
Son of YHWH; the Lamb of God; Mighty god,
Prince of Peace...Was Sent By YHWH the God.

The Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses;
Do Not Believe in the Trinity LIE.
And I believe / think / feel that those who do...
are gonna be in DEEP do-do when Christ Returns,
or rather, they'd Rather be in DEEP do-do,
then the portion they will receive.
Even more so for the 1's that taught this disgusting LIE, misleading ppl.

Hell is the common grave of mankind,
so alot of ppl will go to hell, and are there NOW.
Including my own brothers & sisters
whom have fell alseep in death.

Testimony of the Hebrew Scriptures
One God is the truth of Judaism.
What do the Hebrew Scriptures reveal?
It does not contain a doctrine of the trinity.
Nor is it taught in the Hebrew Scriptures.
The Encyclopedia of Religion---
An examination of the Hebrew Scriptures themselves will
bear out these comments.
Thus there is no clear teaching of a trinity in the first 39
books of the Bible that make up the canon of the inspired
Hebrew Scriptures.

Testimony of the Greek Scriptures...
Theologians agree that the Christian-Greek Scriptures
also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the trinity.
Jesuit Fortman states:
"The NT (Christian-Greek) writers...gives us no formal or
formulated doctrine of the trinity,
no explicit teaching that in ONE God
there are 3 co-equal divine persons...
Nowhere do we find any trinitarian doctrine of 3 distinct
subjects of divine life and activity in the same Godhead."

The New International Dictionary
of New Testament Theology similarily states:
"The NT (Christian-Greek) Scriptures does not contain
the developed doctrine of the trinity.
'The Bible lacks the express declaration that the Father,
the Son, & the Holy Spirit---(God's active force)
are of equal essence' said Protestant theologian Karl Barth.

Yale University professor E. Washburn Hopkins affirmed:
"To Jesus & Paul the doctrine of the trinity
was apparently unknown; ...
they say nothing about it."--Origin & Evolution of Religion.

Historian Arthur Weigall notes:
Jesus Christ never mentions such a phenomenon,
and nowhere in the NT (Christian-Greek) does the word "Trinity" appear.
The idea was only adopted by the Church 300 years after
the death of our Lord."--The Paganism in Our Christianity.

Thus, neither the 39 books of the Hebrew Scriptures
nor the canon of the 27 inspired books of the
Christian-Greek Scriptures provide any clear teaching
of the Trinity.

The idea of a triune god came from Greece,
but originated out of Babylon.

I have to say to "Hashem's Servant":
AMEN!! Get 'Em Woman!!!

Answer 3

The trinity is indeed a pagan doctrine. However, anyone wo dies is going to hell. The word “hell” is found in many Bible translations. In the same verses other translations read “the grave,” “the world of the dead,” and so forth. Other Bibles simply transliterate the original-language words that are sometimes rendered “hell”; that is, they express them with the letters of our alphabet but leave the words untranslated. What are those words? The Hebrew she’ohl′ and its Greek equivalent hai′des, which refer, not to an individual burial place, but to the common grave of dead mankind.

If you think the trinity is supported by the Bible, I strongly suggest you examine the scriptures others give in support of the trinity. Most of those verses DON'T even have THREE "persons" in the those verses ( like John 10:30: "I and the Father are one.") And those that have the THREE in the same verse say nothing about God being composed of 3 co-equal, co-eternal "persons." Go ahead and look!

Answer 4

Triniterians aren't going to Hell. The trinity is fact. God is comprised of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Jesus was God the Son. I do in fact realized that Jesus was a Jewish man. I happen to be a Jewish believer in Jesus. I'm also a strong Messianic Jewish Triniterian.

"Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS." - Jeremiah 23:5-6

Answer 5

thus making it imposible for him to be the God of Israel.

Philippians 2:5 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.

When God's Son came to earth He "made himself nothing" or emptied Himself. But was He really God in the flesh?

Job 9:2 I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with God?....8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.

Matthew 14:25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea.

Mark 4:39 And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.

Psalms 107:24 These see the works of the LORD, and his wonders in the deep. 25 For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof. 26 They mount up to the heaven, they go down again to the depths: their soul is melted because of trouble. 27 They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man, and are at their wits' end. 28 Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he bringeth them out of their distresses. 29 He maketh the storm a calm, so that the waves thereof are still. 30 Then are they glad because they be quiet; so he bringeth them unto their desired haven.

Answer 6

I don't think anyone is going to hell, not the hell that people think of anyway. I think hell is a state of mind, a knowing that we could have done better, but didn't. I don't think it's a place of fire and brimstone.

I also don't think that just because you are of one faith, you are going to hell. It's an individual thing. We will be judged individually. Just because you say you believed in Christ doesn't mean you are automatically going to heaven. That will be decided by someone who has more information then I do, thankfully.

I don't believe in the trinity. I don't believe that Christ and God are the same entity/person/being. If that was the case, Christ wouldn't always refer to His Father. He would have referred to Himself. That's just my feelings though, and I don't knock anyone for their beliefs. We all need something to believe in, why not that?

Answer 7

We are not going to Hell, because we trust God. And those who do not have any love for Gos inn their hearts fail to see the most obvious things in scripture, things like this:

6 Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
7 You love righteousness and hate wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy. (Psalm 45)

That's just one verse. There are many many more.

Jesus = The Most High God

13 "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed. (Daniel 7)

22 until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.

There we have the Ancient of Days AND the Most High.

So you go ahead and say what you want, the Bible tells me God is one, but is more complex than just saying, " God is One."

Answer 8

The word Trinity is not even in the Bible. There is no holy trinity Jesus is God of the old Testament in flesh.

Philip said to him, "Lord, show us the Father. That is all we need."

Jesus answered, "I have been with you a long time now. Do you still not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. So why do you say, 'Show us the Father'? Don't you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me?

Answer 9

Trinity = False

Hell Fire = False

Hell = Sheol, Hades, Gahinna = Common Grave for Mankind

Stop spreading falsehoods about hell fire. That is a false doctrine preached by false religious leaders to scare the masses, and once you spread gossip, the weak minds tune in so deeply.

Don't spread hell fire anymore. Pay attention!

Answer 10

I must be missing something. It seems to that the Micah passage foretells Jesus as the Messiah.

Answer 11

Hey I'm a Muslim.

I found a very good lecture by a Muslim scholar. I'm not sure of the scholar's name though. He talks about the trinity and whether Almighty God has any associated partners with Him, such as a begotten son. It is very interesting and everyone please watch! It is worth your time!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=poaxlksc3nq&m...

Thank you for your time.