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Faith-belief that is NOT based on PROOF.

many religious people claim that the phrase "there is a god." is fact while many Atheists claim that the phrase "there is NO god" is fact. The truth is however that neither phrase is fact or even fact based but they are both FAITH based. While there is no evidence to back up the claim that there is a God there is also no evidence to back up the claim that there is NO God. And yes I know that it is near impossible to prove a negative but that does not change the fact that there is no evidence. And saying that proving something is the job of those who make the claim is moot as in the case "God or no God" both the religious and the Atheists are "makeing claims" as to whether or not God exists. If proving God's existence rests on the shoulders of those who claim he/she/it/them exists then proving God's non-existence rests on the shoulders of those who claim there is no God. And remember, lack of evidence does not equal lack of existence.

2007-09-15 08:03:09 · 33 answers · asked by MoonWater 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

P.S. No I am not Christian, I say "religious people" as Christians are not the only ones who claim their faith as fact nor are they the only ones guilty of proselytizing, when I say "god" I am not simply refering to the abrahamic God but I am reffering to God in the since of however you or anyone else would define "God". And no this is not an attempt at conversion or meant to be an attack on anyone or their faith.

2007-09-15 08:07:17 · update #1

33 answers

All belief is faith, and truth is subjective. And the existence of God is moot, for whether God exists or not, the universe remains what it is.

2007-09-15 08:16:09 · answer #1 · answered by hermit 5 · 2 0

You are right, and you are wrong. It depends on your definition of the word "Faith"

Faith can be a belief in things not yet proved. It also refers to a body of dogma, as well as a few other definitions.

If you are so silly as to say that atheism is a faith because one believes there is no God, then you must also say that one requires faith to believe that there are no people living on Mars, that your automobile will not fly, and other such nonsense.

Atheism simply means that one believes there is no God. The "evidence" that most have who hold this position is simply that there has never been any evidence shown for ANYTHING that would require some sort of God.

I don't think it requires faith to assume a position that seems silly is wrong. By your definition, the concept of a nuclear bomb exploding is only a matter of faith because the principles behind such a device are pure theory

2007-09-15 08:21:11 · answer #2 · answered by Deirdre H 7 · 1 1

No. No. No. NO! I have never acerted that there is definately no such thing as a god or gods. What I said is that lack of evidence is a good reason to believe that the whole thing is just another myth. Can I prove it? No. Am I 100% certain? No. I just think that the possibility of a god existing is remote enough to be dismissed out of hand.

The term atheist defines me by what I DON'T believe in. That's why I don't like the term. Humanist, free thinker, rationalist, these are terms that I would prefer because they make a statement about what I do believe in.

2007-09-15 08:10:42 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Atheism does not take "faith".

"God" is someone else's story. It's someone else's belief. It does NOT require "faith" on our part to NOT believe their stories of magical, invisible, supernatural beings when they can't even provide a single scrap of evidence that such beings exist. It is actually pretty arrogant to suggest that it DOES take "faith" on our part.

The majority of atheists do not make absolute claims that God does not exist. Some do, but the majority of atheist simply do not believe others claims that God DOES exist. And even those that do are not any more unreasonable than you would be to say that there are not invisible turtles living in your backyard. You can't prove they're not there, either. The fact is that the burden of proof rests on believers, because they're the ones making the unreasonable, illogical claim--the claim with no evidence. It is not unreasonable or illogical to say that there are no invisible, supernatural beings when there is no evidence for such beings.

2007-09-15 08:31:04 · answer #4 · answered by Jess H 7 · 0 1

A Christian POV. Christians use the term in a various way. a million) faith is have confidence. people have confidence on each and every occasion they take a seat in a chair that it will carry them up. in case you notice somebody 'fix' the chair you will no longer have confidence to take a seat down in it. If somebody else comes alongside they could have blind faith that the chair will carry them up. This faith walks had in hand with doubt and scepticism. 2) faith is a mysterious present from a mysterious god. This faith is the variety you have have been given it or you have no longer have been given it.. it quite is an analogous faith because of the fact the 'believing in something that's no longer actual' faith. Logically if god would not exist then the present would not exist. i think of the observe that desires to be in an answer is premise. All ideals, religious or otherwise, are geared up on premises. people have confidence or have confidence that their premises are actual. some Atheists get bent out of shape because of the fact in this particular section per premises there's a point taking part in container and that places them out of their convenience zone. The source of the concern is that Christians use the term to signify quite a few issues. some Atheists have blindly picked up the affliction. LOL *places on pastafarian pirate hat* could the Sauce be with you.

2016-11-15 07:41:46 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Atheism is not a faith. You also need to understand the implications of what you are saying. "And remember, lack of evidence does not equal lack of existence."

Ok. So how come you don't believe in a giant teapot orbiting the earth? You can't deny its existence just because there is no evidence now, can you? What about the Flying Spaghetti Monster or the Invisible Pink Unicorn? It does not make sense to say that things may exist without evidence. The burden of proof falls upon the person who says they do see something that's not immediately apparent.

Already I have mentioned Russel's Teapot. Now consider Occam's Razor, and then the argument from prayer, which you can see in my profile. Together these make a very strong case against the existence of any god, much less the judeo-christian god.

So my friend, you are quite simply wrong.

2007-09-15 08:12:32 · answer #6 · answered by Rat 7 · 1 3

and your point is that you want to be hated by both camps?

Seriously, let's imagine a time when people's consciences were empty of any content. Then there comes Jimmy and says that he knows that there is someone in Heaven ruling over everything. Tommy who was minding his own business of eating, shitting and fornicating was caught all unawares and laughs at Jimmy does that laugh means that you can place Tommy in the same category as Jimmy? I don't think so.

Have you heard of FSY? the flying spaghetti monster? Santa Claus? all that maybe true but common sense tells me it's not.

If there was a God he would have sent one message to all the world simultaneously in all languages to First show that he is a universal entity not based on ethnic or national origins and second to show basic human responsibility in preventing all the religious wars that afflicted and afflict humanity.

2007-09-15 08:18:15 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Extra exclamation points do not make your argument any more sound.

I am an atheist, but I do not claim "there is no God." I merely do not claim "there is a God."

As you almost say, it is impossible to prove a negative. I cannot prove there are no pink unicorns, for I would have to scour every corner of the universe to do so, and be certain I'd recognize one if I saw it.

The fact that I see no evidence for pink unicorns (or God) leaves the burden of proof on someone else. It is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary proof.

2007-09-15 08:16:10 · answer #8 · answered by raleigh_jazz_fan 4 · 1 2

There's nothing wrong with only believing things you have some kind of proof for. That doesn't turn into some kind of faith system - I think Christians are constantly trying for force everybody into a belief system like their own because that's all they know.
If somebody standing up in front of a church or in Sunday school didn't tell it to them - it must not be true, and that's just as close minded as any athieist!!!

2007-09-15 08:08:41 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

For those who believe that god does not exist, they have holy books and artefacts that they swear by. Darwins theory of evolution,The big bang theory, the numerous fossils of dinosaurs which have been unearthed. So you could call it a faith based on scientific knowledge.
And basically there is no need for anyone to prove the existence of God. God does not need us paltry humans to submit proof to one another.
Lack of evidence of existence does suggest lack of existence . so, there will be people who will choose to follow that path. And mind you it still is freewill.

2007-09-15 08:20:09 · answer #10 · answered by wheelz 2 · 0 1

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