Christian: Why cant you accepted in evolution?

Question

With all the facts and evidents to support it, carbondating, fossil records, bone structure comparing, DNAcomparing, law of variation, law of adaptation, other forms of radioacting dating, and much more; it is unlogical not to believe in evolution.

Also

Why is it that many Christians believe in 7 day creation, 6000 yr-old earth, gaints, humans and dinouares living together, people walking on water and talking animals.
These stem from the bible and is the only thing they have to back them up. and your faith which is not fact.

Answer 1

There is a lot of evidence and some facts to support evolutionary theory, but at the end of the day it still comes down to belief.

It is easy to refute the small amount of 'origins information' in the bible, but I doubt that many of us have extensively analysed the evolution principles, since there is so much of it. Don't fall into the intellectual hubris of throwing away one belief only to call another belief fact through inattention.

Having said that, evolutionary theory does seem to be generally conforming to reality.

You really ought to use the available spell checker.

Answer 2

Just as it is illogical for one group to ignore evidence, it is illogical for another group to ignore evidence. There are many evidences for a world wide flood, many evidences that this earth is younger than a lot of people think and so on and so forth. But, which evidences are put out there to the masses? The ones that go against Christianity, of course. Also, a lot of the evidences which you have sited are not fact. Just take radio dating for example. This is not accurate. When dating a rock, the geocronologist must first ASSUME the rocks age BEFORE it is dated. This For example, if a scientist BELIEVES a piece a rock is 4.5 billion years old, he or she may then proceed to test the rock using the uranium-lead dating method. However, if the assumption that the rock is 4.5 billion years old is wrong then the results of the test will be erroneous. I thought science was supposed to be based on fact, not what one person THINKS. About fossils, evolutionists point to a few transitional animal forms that they believe shows show evolutionary transition in the fossil record. However, such intermediates are often speculative and much disputed, even amongst evolutionists themselves.
Need I go on, or do you get my point? Do some research that talks about ALL of it, not just evolution. What you find might surprise you.

Answer 3

"Any" conception of evolution? Ludacris? (Words don't seem to be consistently spelled the best way rappers suppose they're) Are you trolling? C'mon, you'll inform me. I may not get mad. I promise. Evolution has been validated. If you be given micro-evolution, then you definately be given macro-evolution. If a creature's genome can difference just a little, then it may difference plenty. Speciation has been discovered in laboratories (see Dropsophilia) Apes did not "develop into persons", both. Different features flip up in every new offspring, a few of these features get handed on. Over time, those alterations quantity to a brand new creature. You had been born with greater than 100 of those precise alterations referred to as 'mutations'. A conception isn't just "whatever that hasn't been validated but. In artwork and technological know-how, a conception is a frame of data that explains a phenomenon. Hence, colour conception, musical conception, quantum conception, germ conception, telephone conception, atomic conception--- all theories that creationists are inclined to be given. Many individuals don't have any know-how of evolution. Even once they declare different individuals are ignorant for no longer accepting it...

Answer 4

There a couple things I'd like to say about Christians in regard to evolution (being a reformed agnostic who was once a devout Christian)...

1) Many Christians are not "against" evolution, per se. Every day, we see more and more clergy accepting the facts behind and the theory of evolution. As evidence, check on the clergy letter project started at Butler University (http://www.butler.edu/clergyproject/clergy_project.htm).

2) There are many groups on this board that are over represented in terms of their actual representation on this board as opposed to the real world. Christian young earth fundamentalism is a relatively small sect of Christianity, but they are somewhat over represented here. Same for atheists; only about 10% (roughly) of the world's population is atheist, but they are probably some of the most vocal here.

3) The majority of young earthers wouldn't accept the volumes of evidence for evolution if you smacked them in the chest with it. But here is the fundamental difference: they believe that their message needs to be accepted by everyone, while it doesn't matter if even one person accepted evolution, because it will continue with or without "believers".

Answer 5

Yes, there are a lot of good theories for evolution, but that is all they are. Theories. If your scientists are so smart, tell me how "the big bang" made our bodies so complex, and not just one sex, but TWO sexes to fit one another perfectly for reproduction?? How did the "big bang" make that? (People, in my opinion, have become too prideful. People think they know everything. It doesn't matter how educated someone is, we will never know everything. We can study for a million years to come and will never come to a true, 100% accurate answer. I believe only God and the Bible can tell us the 100% accurate truth.) That, and my personal experiences is why I accept God and not evolution. Why can't you accept God? If your science cannot prove how people came to be with cold hard facts, and without theories, you can only have faith that they will find out eventually. That is the same kind of faith Christians have. You can't look in on one way eyes, you know.

Answer 6

Didn't you forget that evolution is STILL a theory??? Yes there are proofs of dinosaurs and all creatures who once lived in the prehistoric times....but show me proff that we humans came from apes?Uhh...how did that exactly happen? How did the apes transform themselves into modern man? The thing is it isn't a fact yet...
I believe in the Big Bang but do you think it was done through nothing....how did the universe become so organized if there isn't a divine person that did that? How could the Big Bang happen and the existence of the universe came to be without God?

Answer 7

Not all Christians have that mystic approach towards science. I believe in evolution, but I also believe that the perfection in nature - and in evolution itself - can't be explained by a random combination of molecules.
It has been shown by scientists - see Dr. Fred Hoyle's "Panspermia" theory - that the possibility of life occurring by chance is so small that it would take three universes for that to happen once. And I'm talking about basic unicellular life forms, not the complex organisms that now exist.
All lifeforms adapt to the conditions they are given. And, from my point of view, it's more logic to explain that with some sort of universal force - you can call it God if you wish - than with mere luck.
I don't believe we humans are God's "chosen people" and, to be perfectly honest, the immortality of the soul theory looks more like a reward all religions promise their followers than a possibility. But I do believe we are a part of a greater thing. And that's enough comfort for me.

Answer 8

Many Christians do believe in evolution, just not to the degree that you are talking about.

As far as the Bible goes, the Bible was written originally in several differnet languages. Most Christians today accept that one day in God's time may not be one Earth day. Time is a concept of relativity that was invented by mankind. How time is measured varies from culture to culture. While we now have a nearly universally accepted way of measuring time, this has not always been the case. As time measurement varied from culture to culture, it is very possible that there was a misunderstanding somewhere in the last several thousand years.

And eveolution on the scale that you favor has not been proved either. You, too are acting on faith.

Yes, MICRO (small scale) evolution exists. There is evidence that life forms, whether animal or plant, elvolve to a minor degree to adapt to their environment. The skin on my forearms has gradually darkened to resist sunburn as I spend a lot of time in the sun. I have evolved to fit my environment.

However, MACRO (alrge-scale) evolution to the degree that smaile evolved into fish, which learned to walk, which eventually evolved into monkey and then humans... is extremely flawed. If you have read the news[a[er in the last few weeks, you will know that new evidence has formed proving that the supposed chain of links that was being used can not connect in the weay that was thought. There are all kinds of hoiles and gaps in this theory. As it can neither be conclusively proved nor conclusively disproved, it is called a THEORY and not a LAW.

From Encarta:
"Theory, an assumption or system of assumptions, accepted principles, and rules of procedure based on limited information or knowledge, devised to analyze, predict, or otherwise explain the nature or behavior of a specified set of phenomena; abstract reasoning."

Thje key words there are ASSUMPTIONS and LIMITED KNOWLEDGE.

There is a reason why it is called the evolutionary theory and not the law of evolution.

Answer 9

It is not just faith that prompts me to believe in creation but I am coming from the belief of creation as I examine the evidence for and against evolution. You are coming from the faith of the absence of creation as you examine those same evidences. I would also like to point out that my faith is a fact..It is a fact that I have faith, that because of my faith I am a much kinder, loving person than I was before that faith. My faith has been proven in my life.Believe what you will. Some christians believe that evolution is of God, His natural way of creation. Some athiests do not believe in evolution. I believe in the literal creation story... What is your point in this question and why do you even care if I do or do not prescribe to evolution? Why are you only asking this of christians, when many other faiths do not believe in evolution? To flip your question back to you Why can't you accept God? Just curious....

Answer 10

Because all that "evidence" you cited depends on certain unprovable pre-suppostions to be true, if the pre-suppositions are wrong then the interpretation of the evidence is wrong.

Radiometric dating for example relies on three unprovable assumptions about the past:

1. The amount of ‘daughter’ isotope in the rock at the start is known.

2. No loss of ‘parent’ or gain of ‘daughter’ since the rock formed (closed system conditions).

3. Constant decay rate of ‘parent’ to ‘daughter’.

If these conditions could be guaranteed, the radiometric dating method would be correct. However, unless eye­witnesses observed the rock when it formed, and checked it constantly thereafter, it is impossible to guarantee that these assumptions are correct. Indeed, there are many cases in the scientific literature where assumptions one and two, though made in good faith, have been shown to be unreliable.

Constancy of decay rate (assumption three) implies that a parameter which scientists have been measuring for only a century has been constant for millions of alleged years of Earth’s history. This is of course not only unproven but also unprovable. Decay rates (which can vary greatly today under special conditions) may have been much faster in the past.

The major problems of uranium series dating include the assumptions of initial isotopic ratios and a closed system after deposition. The former assumption of long-term isotopic ratio stability is thought tenable in the oceans although much less so on land. Obtaining activity ratios for different isotopes from the same sample and cross-checking dates can provide a check on the latter assumption of a closed system since any post-depositional contamination processes are not likely to equally affect different isotopes. Another problem lies in the calculation of a mean sedimentation rate from a graph of activity ratios versus depth and then using that mean rate to interpolate the ages of events intermediate between sample levels. Estimates of the tenability of this process vary widely.

Serious problems also exist in the fossil record, bone structure comparing , DNA comparing and so on.

Why is it that many Christians believe in 7 day creation? Well if God is God then he could have done it instantly, so taking 6 days (the 7th was a rest day) is no big deal. However, the Hebrew word translated as "days" can also mean years or even ages, so if God turned out to take 6 billion years to do it, that does not contradict the Bible - as long as it was 6 time periods like the text says.

No where in the Bible does it say the Earth is 6,000 years old.

There are some evidences of humans and dinosaurs living at the same time. If dinosaurs died out millions of years before humans evolved, how come there are fossils of dinosaur and human footprints together and how come there are cave paintings of dinosaurs - how did cave men know these creatures existed let alone what they looked like?

In 1970 newspapers reported the discovery of cave paintings in Zimbabwe. The paintings were made by bushmen who ruled that area from about 1500 B.C., until a couple of hundred years ago. Along with accurate representations of the elephant and the giraffe, is a painting of an Apatosaurus. These art works have greatly puzzled scientists since bushmen painted from real life.

About seventy years ago, Dr. Samuel Hubbard, curator of archaeology in the Oakland (California) Museum, discovered dinosaur carvings on the cliff walls of the Hava Supai Canyon in Arizona. One remarkable carving resembles a Tyrannosaurus. Nearby, dinosaur tracks were preserved in the rock surface.

As for Jesus walking on water or animals talking well obviously these aren't normal everyday events, but if God is God then there is no reason why he couldn't do those things and a great deal more.

To believe that dead particles came alive or the universe created itself out of nothing requires even greater faith and has no evidence to back it up either.

The only reason the public perception is that the evolution is proven, undisputable fact is because of the censorship and peer pressure applied to any scientist with a dissenting point of view. If you read a 50-year-old science text, you will wet yourself laughing at the number of things stated as proven fact - the "assured results of scientific inquiry," which have now been proven untrue by modern science.

Answer 11

I like how you openly declare that our faith is not fact. Atheists always approach under the guise rationality but when they are close the costume is removed and what is revealed is just another unlearned "unlogical" human posing as a scientist. Like all human beings your primary goal here is to convert me.

By the way, I'm a Christian and I believe in evolution. Don't be such an intolerant claud next time.