if god made the universe and nothing existed before god then who made god?

Question

i have heard answers like god was always here but if you can believe that why is it so hard to believe that the universe was always here? or god made himself which doesn't make sense because if you don't exist you cant make anything especially not yourself.
so seriously give me your best answer?

one of the most common arguments against atheism is that everything must have a creator. therefore god must have a creator

Answer 1

This is such a good topic. Me and my friend argue about this for hours on end. In my opinion, religion is one of the stupidest things ever conceived by mankind. Think of it like this. Why does your god exist, but the Native American's sun and rain gods or the Roman's gods don't? Religion is created when there is an unanswerable question (i.e. what that big yellow ball in the sky is, where the universe came from, or what happens when you die). People don't (or didn't) know the answers to those questions so they came up with answers on their own. Then, for everybody else, that was the only explanation available so they took it. I guarantee you that in 500 years, people will be looking back and saying, "Wow, they actually believed that?" I hope I'm not offending anyone, that's just my opinion. Anyways, the answer to your question is that nobody really knows for sure where the universe came from, and I think that that's what it should be left until the answer is found out for sure.

Answer 2

Why is it so hard to believe the Universe was always here? Because that contradicts the first Law of Science, that says that there is no effect without a cause.

Let's put it this way: the universe exists and this is a fact. Science tells us that there is no effect without a cause, therefore the universe is a cause of something, it was created from something, it was made, or it is simply "the result". Therefore, there must be something or someone who kicked it to start, right? The only thing that could have started it is something even superior (maybe outside it), bigger, more powerful.

Now you look at the planets in the space; look at the Nature flowing with its cycles; look at the animals and their instinct; look at the human beings who think and are capable to love. Do you see intelligence in all these? Do you see purpose in all these? I do. God is the only one behind it all. Maybe you prefer to call Him some other name (Jehovah, power, force, invisible thing), it doesn't matter the name, but there is some intelligent creator behind all that... or not? I think there is.

Peace!

Answer 3

God says in the Srimad Bhagavatam:
"It is I, the Personality of Godhead, who was existing before the creation, when there was nothing but Myself. Nor was there the material nature, the cause of this creation. That which you see now is also I, the Personality of Godhead and after annihilation what remains will also be I, the Personality of Godhead."
The Personality of Godhead exists before the creation, and He exists with all transcendental variegatedness in the spiritual world. Those transcendental planets are of a different nature altogether, and that nature is not subjected to the rules and regulations of material creation, maintenance or annihilation. The existence of the Personality of Godhead implies the existence of the spiritual universe, as the existence of a king implies the existence of a kingdom.
It must exist an ultimate cause. "If God created everything, then who created God?" But even if we think that someone else created God, this still implies the existence of an ultimate cause.

Answer 4

If the earth created mountains, trees, animals etc. Then who created earth. If the big bang caused the creation of Earth, then who created Big bang. The questions will go on. but the real answer is that it didnt take the entire universe to create God but only our little earth and that too in abdundance. We have three Great Gods and many other down the hieracrhy, The top three were made with the combination of the ones before them. So you see there is your answer, everything has a history. Humans didnt show up with a magic wand. "Nature herself has imprinted in the minds of all, the idea of God" - cicero

Answer 5

The Christian answer is that God is the uncaused cause. While everything that is created needs a creator, something which is not created does not require one.

If time itself is a function of our universe, then it stands to reason that a being outside of our universe would be outside of time, and necessarily eternal, at least from the perspective of our universe.

Still, I don't believe that God created the universe; that is a myth of origins; most every religion has had at least one of these. The Bible depicts two such.

One does not need a God to show the origin of matter; matter itself shows how it is possible for something to come into existence from nothing. It has even been accomplished in a laboratory.

Answer 6

I think you misunderstand the basic idea... Regardless of what your religious beliefs are I think it's reasonable to propose this universe is not all there is. Consider a child. Before birth, the womb is all there is. Then their mothers arms, then a bassinette, then a crib and a home, then an extended family and their homes, then perhaps a collection of places, then they realize there is a neighborhood or perhaps their town, then they learn about other cites and the state or region, and on to their nation, continent, world, solar system, galaxy... ...and universe. It stops there? The nothing the bible speaks of is this world, this solar system, and galaxy. Perhaps this universe, perhaps not. Regardless, the fundamental understanding the bible seeks to convey is that all we know was created by God. I am telling you God created all you know. This does not mean you know all their is to know.

Answer 7

You have to separate the differentials. 1. There is time. There is space. Time and Space= Finite. 2. There are intervening levels (dimensions if you will). This = Absonite (from Absonity) 3. There is eternity. There is infinity. This = Absolute reality.

God is the One and ONLY First Uncaused Cause. This is a philosophical concession to "finite" beings such as you and me who must, in "time and space, the finite reality" have beginnings. In our perception and our reality, nothing can exist without a beginning. We do the more easily imagine things without endings, infinity. But, we can, if we try get a foothold on the idea of things and beings with no beginning. This is God. God is a who, a personality. From God and With God, all things came to be; whether created directly by God or by being who God created.

God always was, is and always will be. The True First Uncausded Cause Who IS the I Am. And Who lost nothing in His infinite self when he chose to liberate Himself in the past eventuated sequence of events of eternity by creating the Second Person of Deity = The Eternal Son.

When and if you ever are serious about really learning this, then will you have the fortitude to think about it with all honesty and integrity.

Till then, your view will be appreciated by Our Father, and no love will be lost. In fact, Love of God will be with you forever.

The only "universe" that was "always here" is Havona - The Central Universe which is the one and only Eternal Universe. All universes after that are either abosonite or finite conditioned. Our local universe, for example, that which we normally percieve and now expand our view beyond with telescopes, is time and space, finite conditioned. It is not eternal, it is evolutionary with a destiny.

You're going to love this explanation:

http://www.urantia.org/papers/foreword.html

Answer 8

God is “everlasting” in nature (Isa. 40:28), which is to say, he is “eternal” as to his very essence (Rom. 16:26; 1 Tim. 1:17). His existence is “from everlasting to everlasting.” Before the material creation was spoken into existence, he always was (Psa. 90:2).
The Lord revealed himself to Moses as the “I AM THAT I AM” (Ex. 3:14). The “I AM” expression is related to the Hebrew name for God, Yahweh (LORD—KJV, or Jehovah—This was the most sacred name for God. The term Yahweh occurs more than 6,800 times in the Old Testament. The word is believed to be a form of the verb hayah, which signifies “to be,” ultimately meaning “the eternal One” or “self-existing One.” God’s existence is underived; no one made him. He simply always was.


If there ever was a time when nothing at all existed, then there would be absolutely nothing today. It is an axiomatic truth that if nothing exists, then “nothing” will be the case—always, for nothing simply remains nothing—forever! Nothing plus nothing equals nothing. If there is absolutely nothing but nothing, there cannot ever be something. “Nothing” and “something”—applied to the same object, at the same time—are mutually exclusive terms.
Since it is the case that something does now exist, one must logically conclude that something has existed always. Let us state the matter again: If nothing cannot produce something, and yet something exists, then it follows necessarily that something has existed always. The question then becomes this. What is the “something” that has been in existence always?
In logic, the “law of the excluded middle” states that a thing either is, or it is not. A line either is straight, or it is not straight.
Let us apply this principle to the matter at hand. Something has existed forever. That “something” must be either material in nature, or non-material. If it can be demonstrated that the eternal “something” is not material in nature, then it must follow that the eternal “something” is non-material in nature.

Another term for the “non-material” would be “spirit.” The question now becomes—what does the available evidence reveal? Is it the case that “matter” has existed forever, or does the evidence argue that the eternal “something” is non-matter, i.e., spirit?

The most reputable scientists in the world concede that “matter” is not eternal. In his book,

Until the Sun Dies (New York: W.W. Norton, 1977), Dr. Robert Jastrow, founder of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, and himself a professed agnostic, describes his perception of the initial creation of the universe.

He speaks of that moment when “the first particles of matter appear” (21), thus, prior to that moment, matter did not exist.
Subsequently, he declares emphatically that “modern science denies an eternal existence to the Universe?” (30). There is not a particle of evidence that the universe has existed forever. The very fact that scientists attempt to assign an “age” to the universe is revealing within itself.

In view of the foregoing, namely that something has always existed, and yet that “something” is not of a material nature, the student of logic is irresistibly forced to the conclusion that the “something” that is eternal is non-material—which means it must be “spirit” in its essence. The Scriptures identify that spirit Being as God. “God is spirit?” (Jn. 4:24)—an uncreated, eternal Spirit Being.

Both Scripture and logic, then, in marvelous concert, testify to the fact that God is eternal. He had no origin. He is the everlasting I AM. No one “made” him. He simply IS.

Answer 9

Our minds are too finite and small to understand the concept of eternity. It is true- God has always been and always will be. How is that possible? If we could know the answer, then we would be God. I asked my dad when I was small what the last number was, and my dad replied, "Infinity". I had no concept of what that meant, but I thought for sure that there was a last number until I was able to understand the concept. God is the same. He goes on forever, in both directions, just like numbers do. We cannot limit Him. He is not human- He is a deity, and none of us really knows what a deity is fully because we have not yet seen Him. All we can know is that He is infinitely greater, because we see the vastness and complexity of the universe. Any being that can create all that is far beyond our human comprehension.

Answer 10

Ok so what I hear is the two big theories:

Theory A: There was nothing and it blew up and made everything.

Theory B: Some guy made it all.

Wow I can't decide they all make about as much sense. I would just go for-

Theory C: Who frickin cares we are here aren't we? Isn't that good enough for you? Besides I'm sure all your questions will be answered when you die.