Is there really any Biblical support for concept of Trinity??

Question

I think there is......one subtle reference if that????

Answer 1

Hi Jonny, here is a link for you that has to do with the Scriptures about the trinity.

I hope they help,

Chris

http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-proof-texts.htm

Answer 2

You may see folks reference 1 John 5:7-8. That is pretty much the only place in the bible that makes somewhat explicit reference to the trinity (although the word "trinity" or anything close to it can't be found in the bible at all).

Do not be convinced by this. Known as the Johannine Comma, it is well known as one of the worst interpolations into the bible (meaning it wasn't added until a few hundreds years after the original text was written).

There are numerous sites you can read about it, and wikipedia covers it pretty well with links to both sides of the argument (though those who support the idea is is original have really bad arguments).

Answer 3

Jonny: The answer is not "black & white". The answer is found in the understanding or the comprehension of WHO God is. This is only possible when you have a spiritual relationship with Him. Then, the roles of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit come to "light'. It is within this relationship, that the reality of the Trinity is understood. When you read Biblical scripture, particularily both, Genesis, chapter 1, verse 26 and correlate it with John, chapter 1, verses 1-4, you will see 3 distinct Beings playing a distinctive role as ONE . Confused ? Well - you are on your way to understanding this concept because the anxiety created in you, will spur you onward to research and apply your knowledge, to find out more !!!

Answer 4

There are MANY references to the divinity of Jesus... 43 in John alone

The "Johannine Comma" was unknown before the 14th century, so there is no textual support for its authenticity. This does not detract from the large number of passages that speak of the divinity of Jesus:

John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

Here is an "Exegetical Insight" from a Biblical Greek textbook. The author here examines John 1:1 and explains BIBLICAL TRUTH very well. The discussion involves a minor bit of Greek grammar, but is fairly well explained for those who are unfamiliar with it...

The nominative case is the case that the subject is in. When the subject takes an equative verb like “is” (i.e., a verb that equates the subject with something else), then another noun also appears in the nominative case–the predicate nominative. In the sentence, “John is a man,” “John” is the subject and “man” is the predicate nominative. In English the subject and predicate nominative are distinguished by word order (the subject comes first). Not so in Greek. Since word order in Greek is quite flexible and is used for emphasis rather than for strict grammatical function, other means are used to determine subject from predicate nominative. For example, if one of the two nouns has the definite article, it is the subject.

As we have said, word order is employed especially for the sake of emphasis. Generally speaking, when a word is thrown to the front of the clause it is done so for emphasis. When a predicate nominative is thrown in front of the verb, by virtue of word order it takes on emphasis. A good illustration of this is John 1:1c. The English versions typically have, “and the Word was God.” But in Greek, the word order has been reversed. It reads,

‘kai theos en ho logos’
“and God was the Word.”

"We know that “the Word” is the subject because it has the definite article, and we translate it accordingly: “and the Word was God.” Two questions, both of theological import, should come to mind:

(1) Why was 'theos' (God) thrown forward?
and
(2) Why does it lack the article?

In brief, its emphatic position stresses its essence or quality: “What God was, the Word was” is how one translation brings out this force. Its lack of a definite article keeps us from identifying the person of the Word (Jesus Christ) with the person of “God” (the Father). That is to say, the word order tells us that Jesus Christ has all the divine attributes that the Father has; lack of the article tells us that Jesus Christ is not the Father. John’s wording here is beautifully compact! It is, in fact, one of the most elegantly terse theological statements one could ever find. As Martin Luther said, the lack of an article is against Sabellianism; the word order is against Arianism.

To state this another way, look at how the different Greek constructions would be rendered:

'kai ho logos en ho theos'=“and the Word was the God” (i.e., the Father; Sabellianism)

'kai ho logos en theos'=“and the Word was a god” (Arianism)

'kai theos en ho logos'=“and the Word was God” (Orthodoxy).

Jesus Christ is God and has all the attributes that the Father has. But he is not the first person of the Trinity. All this is concisely affirmed in 'kai theos en ho logos.'"

-Daniel B. Wallace, Dallas Theological Seminary.

Wallace is quoted in "Basics of Biblical Greek Grammar,"
William D. Mounce, Copyright © 1993 by William D. Mounce.

I transliterated (spelled with English letters) the Greek in the original and supplied a literal translation of Greek where necessary. - sunestauromai

Answer 5

Mark 1:10-11. Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and God are all present.

Acts 1:4-5, again, you see Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and God.

Matthew 28:19 - Jesus gives the us the Great Commission, where we are to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Romans 5:5-6 God gave us Jesus to die for our sins & the Holy Spirit to fill our hearts with love.

I'm sure there are more. Good luck and God Bless!

Answer 6

In the Old Testament God is sometimes referred to as Father and in the New Testament Jesus refers to God as His Father in Heaven.

In the Old Testament and the New Testament the Holy Spirit is often referred to as "the Spirit of God".
In the New Testament the Holy Spirit is also referred to as
"the Spirit of Christ".
So we have the Holy Spirit being God's Spirit but also referred to as Jesus' Spirit.
Also when speaking about the Holy Spirit, the pronoun "it: was never used but the pronoun"He" is used for the Holy Spirit.
There is more then one scripture that refers to Jesus as God in the flesh. so now we have God the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ who is God the son.

And since the Holy Spirit is called the Spirit of God, referred to as an advocate, the Comforter and "He" that would also make the Holy Spirit, God.

Also in the Old Testament God is called "the ancient of Days" and in the book of Revelation Jesus Christ is given the same name.

God's name as revealed to Moses and translated to English is the "I AM THAT i AM" or "I am" for short.
Jesus told the religious leaders that before Abraham was;
"I AM". The religious leaders tried to stone Jesus for blasphemy because He claimed to be God the I AM and Jesus is God come to earth in human flesh.

In John chapters 14 and 17 he said that He, Jesus and the father are one.
If you have seen Jesus, you have seen the Father is what Jesus told His disciples.

Here is a scripture passage from
First Epistle of John Chapter 5
also referred to as 1 John 5
6 ¶ This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 ¶ He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Notice verse 7 mentions that the Father the Holy Ghost and the Son, all three are one.

3 in 1

Note:
1. Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit are used interchangeably for the same meaning.
2. Also note I am quoting from the King James Version.
Many of the more modern translations butcher and change the meaning of these verses by eliminating certain words from these verses especially verses 7 & 8.

So the word Trinity is not in the Bible, neither are the words "Triune God" in the Bible but the general principal of one God as three in one is in the Bible.

Answer 7

At Jesus' Baptism by John.
Jesus in the water...
The Spirit like a dove alighting upon Him...
A voice from heaven proclaiming,
"This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. "
All three members of the Trinity are revealed in a single place.

There are many more examples.

Answer 8

Father, Son and the Holy Ghost - from the lips of Jesus Himself. In the last chapter of Matthew.

Answer 9

1 John 5:7-8 is a good ref.

Answer 10

The power of imagination is able to defeat all logic in the minds of the weak.