The writings in the Bible came 40-100 years after his death making it not a likely accurate source. Is Jesus like Hercules just a man that was glorified until he became a god? The writings of Josephus have been proven as false, and faith is not an appropriate answer (my mother told me when I was very young Jesus wrote the Bible and still believes that to this day.) I would like evidence for and against his existence and appreciate everyone that reads over the answers to look at evidence for and against with rational thought and reason. Feel free to IM me to continue any further discussions on the subject.
2007-09-14
15:15:51
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Come on I don't want yes or no I want links and answers. Josephus' writings were proven to be falsified so they do not count. The old laws are not very peaceful and many have died because of Jesus' followers (inquisition crusades etc...) also I am claiming that the 11 apostles never existed, as there is no official records of their executions either.
2007-09-14
15:24:27 ·
update #1
I am getting alot of people claiming faith proves it and that roman documents prove it, actually roman documents do not mention Jesus or his persecution and Pontius Pilate kept records of every crucification, This means that a crucial piece of evidence is missing about Jesus' Death. Maybe he existed but was not ordered to die by Pilate? either way this proves the Bible to be False
2007-09-14
15:36:40 ·
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The AD and BC theory doesn't hold up, that system of measurement was created along with the Gregorian Calander many centuries after Jesus. You may as well claim that you exist because it is noon
2007-09-14
15:41:37 ·
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If you truly want the absolute truth behind it 'all', there is one
book that will give you all of the answers. My husband has
gone to greath lengths to study the origin of Christianity and
other religions as well. It came about after our son joined the
Jehovahs' Witnesses, and we could not get help from any
minister in the local Christian community to help deprogram
our son. He is still a devout follower to this day. I don't know
if it is still considered the largest cult among the churches
and organizations that classify themselves as Christians.
But it is one of THE largest at any rate.
Through the research my husband did in desperation
to find out if not just our son was living a lie, but include us
as well. Our beliefs had become shakey as the result of our sons' mistreatment of us. How could God/Jesus allow such
a thing to happen to families who believed in him, but diff-
erent than how we were raised to believe? And to allow
family members to hate another in the name of God?
What we have learned has been unbelievable. I went through a grieving process, which eventually turned to anger, from being duped all my life. And the generations before me as well.
To think of all the wars that were based on religious beliefs
since early man began, has all been a waste of breath and
of life. The tortures done in the name of religion is unfathom-
able. The superstitions, the agonies that people accepted
and believed. And living in fear, and having to conform.
The book I would seriously recommend that you read, is
entitled, 'The Bloodline of the Holy Grail', by Lawrence Gard-
ner. You may have to re read it to comprehend all it has to 'enlighten' you about. You will find that one thing that was discovered when scientists took an interest in the writing of the bible, is that terms we now use have different meanings than those used back in those times. There is so much dissecting and studying of scripture and discussion of how
things came to be written as they were, that it all will be hard
to digest, because it will go against all you were led to
believe as a child, or an adult. It will be the most important
book you will ever read in your lifetime., Believe me.
I'd like to hear from you, after you've read it. As the more people have been exposed to it's contents, the more who will no longer have to live in fear of not being baptized, or not going to heaven. And as for hell, well, I truly believe, it is right here on earth.
The scriptures were meant to control early civilization.From this control came about the rules of humanity, and caring for mankind. WIthout rules to control, there would be chaos and massive destruction. There would be no order, only animalistic behavior. The Roman rulers wanted an orderly and obedient community. And so the first leaders of the Roman Catholic Church laid their foundation under the watchful eye of the Roman rulers. You will find more than your mind can handle when you devour the pages of the book I have recommended to you. and to anyone interested in finally learning the secrets that have been hidden for so long. You
will be enlightened, and you will feel liberated.
2007-09-14 16:28:51
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answered by Lynn 7
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Hi
First off I am a Pagan but i do accept that Historiclly Jesus did exist as a man.
the Roman documents of the era prove it.
Now whether he is the son of God or not is a whole different subject all together, but the man himself DID exist once and he was murdered or crucified if you will by the Romans. That is all historical fact written and preserved from the Roman era.
So if you want evidence he existed then check historical documents regarding the Romans rule of Judea and Pontius Pilot who was the Governor of that Region then. There you will find your proof he was a real human being.
It does not however prove he was the son of god or not the son. That is not answered.
Hope that helps.
(It is also funny how only the zealout Christians always thumb down anyone not of their beleif, it cracks me up lol. That is why they are so stupid and cannot think for themselves)
ACTUALLY YES Pontias DOES have records of his Execution what documents are you reading? He very much was killed by the Romans, they were maticulate on recording things and i am not talking about Josephus either!!
2007-09-14 15:27:22
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answered by Legend Gates Shotokan Karate 7
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You need to cite your sources. Who proved and how was it proven that the writings of Josephus were false?
What evidence is there that Hercules actually existed?
Did you know that it takes 150 or more years for legend/myth to be built? You said yourself that the New Testament writings began about 40 years after - while many other witnesses were still alive, yet no other writings exist which contradict Biblical accounts.
Hercules did not impact lives and change the world. Hercules did not teach, heal and extend hope to anyone. Hercules is pure myth and that is why we study Greek Mythology in school, it is mythology.
Yet, Jesus made an impact as no other. His teachings, His unconditional love, His example was like no other. The first century church was full of the love of Jesus, the compassion of Jesus and were full of zeal which carries on in most Christians in the world, today. No religion has crossed cultural lines like Christianity.
You won't find any archaeological evidence of Jesus - He is not dead. But, you will find no concrete evidence that He did not exist. There is more support that He was here on this earth than there is for His non-existence (a few theories and some weak circular reasonings, at best).
2007-09-14 15:33:43
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answered by TroothBTold 5
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of course, while you're putting off Christian writers, its like saying, "are you able to coach Julius Ceasar existed without utilising Roman writings?" There are quite some individual writings approximately Jesus written interior of a hundred years of His dying. additionally, Pliny the greater youthful, Tacitus and Suetonius (all non-Christians) wrote approximately Jesus. the main suitable non-Christian writing of Christ from his term, although, is by way of Josephus, the Jewish historian. He took painstaking efforts in making precise histories. He wrote a splash approximately Jesus and others suggested interior the NT.
2016-10-20 00:55:58
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answered by manca 4
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ok, are people really still asking this question? lord have mercy. quit holding your crystals and get over it, man. yes, there are 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
million facts that aid or prove to his existence.
jewish historical records.
roman records.
eye witness testimonies.
there's probably more proof for it that there is of your existence. but since you no doubt refuse eye witness testimonies as evidence, you can't use eye witnesses for proof of your life. if you won't accept jesus' than i won't accept yours. so now you have no family, no friends to help you prove your existence. how many forms of ID do you have? who has written about you? how much money is in your bank? do you own a house or a car? i guess yahoo answers might prove you exist, but then again, that's just your avatar. that could be anyone. no, i think you're a fake.
poof..........you're gone.
in 2000 years people will doubt you too.
2007-09-14 17:33:26
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answered by ? 3
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Josephus 's writings were never proven false. There are many other first century historians that mention Jesus Christ. The calendar was formatted around His ministry. A.D.-Anno Domino is latin for the year of our Lord and B.C.-is Before Christ. It was this way for 2000 years, and now they they call it C.E- common era and B.C.E.- before common era. The Gospels were written during His lifetime. If He didn't exist, then why would thousands of people be willing to die for something that was named for someone that never existed? That is just illogical at best.
2007-09-14 15:28:41
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answered by michael m 5
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Joh:3:11: Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
Joh:3:12: If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
Joh:3:13: And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Joh:3:14: And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
Joh:3:15: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh:3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh:3:17: For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh:3:18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh:3:19: And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Joh:3:20: For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Joh:3:21: But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
FIRST WE HAVE TO BELIEVE.
2007-09-14 20:02:18
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answered by flindo61 4
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If you look at the bible as a literal interpretation of ANYTHING, you're eventually going to be disappointed.
However, the book remains a remarkable piece of literature for both the religious and non-religious and is certainly the foundation for (at this point) MOST of Western philosophy.
Did Jesus exist? Yeah, I expect you are right that there was a remarkable man whose attributes have been exploded to myth and legend.
Does the concept of a savior for our sins have enough power to base a religion around? You betcha. Is it bad that there is a large part of humanity being better people because they all believe in this thing which will probably never be completely understood. I don't think so.
Call it mass hysteria. Call it the workings of a divine mind. Call it a bologna sandwhich - its the results that count.
2007-09-14 15:24:21
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answered by Elana 7
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If He did not exist, why the writings in the Bible came after his death and was glorified to become a God
2007-09-14 15:22:53
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answered by Gone 4
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Hercules is part of Roman mythology if not Greek.anyway still he's a part of a myth but Jesus is part of the bible--the book of good news,hence, for me as a Christian He really exist,however i don't remember any teachings that He wrote the bible. Even some of the wiccans i personally know believe that He existed and admire His teachings.
2007-09-14 15:21:51
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answered by miaka 2
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