Scripture
I. Jesus Christ Granted the Apostles His Authority to Forgive Sins
John 20:21 - before He grants them the authority to forgive sins, Jesus says to the apostles, "as the Father sent me, so I send you." As Christ was sent by the Father to forgive sins, so Christ sends the apostles and their successors forgive sins.
John 20:22 - the Lord "breathes" on the apostles, and then gives them the power to forgive and retain sins. The only other moment in Scripture where God breathes on man is in Gen. 2:7, when the Lord "breathes" divine life into man. When this happens, a significant transformation takes place.
John 20:23 - Jesus says, "If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven. If you retain the sins of any, they are retained." In order for the apostles to exercise this gift of forgiving sins, the penitents must orally confess their sins to them because the apostles are not mind readers. The text makes this very clear.
Matt. 9:8 - this verse shows that God has given the authority to forgive sins to "men." Hence, those Protestants who acknowledge that the apostles had the authority to forgive sins (which this verse demonstrates) must prove that this gift ended with the apostles. Otherwise, the apostles' successors still possess this gift. Where in Scripture is the gift of authority to forgive sins taken away from the apostles or their successors?
Matt. 9:6; Mark 2:10 - Christ forgave sins as a man (not God) to convince us that the "Son of man" has authority to forgive sins on earth.
Luke 5:24 - Luke also points out that Jesus' authority to forgive sins is as a man, not God. The Gospel writers record this to convince us that God has given this authority to men. This authority has been transferred from Christ to the apostles and their successors.
Matt. 18:18 - the apostles are given authority to bind and loose. The authority to bind and loose includes administering and removing the temporal penalties due to sin. The Jews understood this since the birth of the Church.
John 20:22-23; Matt. 18:18 - the power to remit/retain sin is also the power to remit/retain punishment due to sin. If Christ's ministers can forgive the eternal penalty of sin, they can certainly remit the temporal penalty of sin (which is called an "indulgence").
2 Cor. 2:10 - Paul forgives in the presence of Christ (some translations refer to the presences of Christ as "in persona Christi"). Some say that this may also be a reference to sins.
2 Cor. 5:18 - the ministry of reconciliation was given to the ambassadors of the Church. This ministry of reconciliation refers to the sacrament of reconciliation, also called the sacrament of confession or penance.
James 5:15-16 - in verse 15 we see that sins are forgiven by the priests in the sacrament of the sick. This is another example of man's authority to forgive sins on earth. Then in verse 16, James says “Therefore, confess our sins to one another,” in reference to the men referred to in verse 15, the priests of the Church.
1 Tim. 2:5 - Christ is the only mediator, but He was free to decide how His mediation would be applied to us. The Lord chose to use priests of God to carry out His work of forgiveness.
Lev. 5:4-6; 19:21-22 - even under the Old Covenant, God used priests to forgive and atone for the sins of others
Praying to the Saints
"‘And as for the dead being raised, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the passage about the bush, how God said to him, "I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob"? He is not God of the dead, but of the living . . .’" (Mark 12:26-27)
"Pray at all times in the Spirit with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints, and also for me . . ." (Eph. 6:18).
"Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely . . ." (Heb. 12:1).
"And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints . . ." (Rev. 5:8).
"And he called to him his twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every disease and every infirmity. The names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon, who is called Peter . . ." (Matt. 10:1-2).
"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven’" (Matt. 16:18-19).
"‘Simon, Simon, behold Satan has demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail; and when you have turned again, strengthen your brethren’" (Luke 22:31-32).
"He brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him, and said, ‘So you are Simon the son of John? You shall be called Cephas’ (which means Peter)" (John 1:42).
"When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, ‘Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?’ He said to him, ‘Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.’ He said to him, ‘Feed my lambs.’ A second time he said to him, ‘Simon, son of John, do you love me?’ He said to him, ‘Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.’ He said to him, ‘Tend my sheep.’ He said to him the third time, ‘Simon, son of John, do you love me?’ Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, ‘Do you love me?’ And he said to him, ‘Lord, you know that I love you.’ Jesus said to him, ‘Feed my sheep’" (John 21:15-17).
And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and she exclaimed with a loud cry, ‘Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb! And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?’" (Luke 1:41-43).
"And Mary said, ‘My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name’" (Luke 1:46-49).
"If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honored, all rejoice together" (1 Cor. 12:26).
I can prove each and every point and prove its all in scriptue. But for now this will suffice
protestants are not saved christians their not even christians their heritics. Oh yes where did your bible come from.
2007-09-14 08:18:01
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answered by Anonymous
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What's interesting here, is many have not cited biblical references, and those that have use their misinterpretation to backup their misguided understanding of Catholicism.
The funny thing is the Catholic Church can backup ALL of it's practices with scriptures. It can take every scripture listed in these posts and refute these misguided accusations.
The Catholic Church is not in error...what is in error is anti-Catholic beliefs about Catholicism. Even those who were Catholic and say things like "we were taught to kneel and pray to statues" is absolutely false. NO Catholic has ever been taught that following the teachings of the Church.
Again, we defend ourselves against the same old misconceptions that have been thrown at us for hundreds of years. The answers are still the same, the Church continuously and successfully defends her practices and authority through sacred scripture and sacred tradition.
2007-09-14 08:00:00
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answered by Misty 7
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The issue concerning any church and its practices should be “Is this Biblical?” If a teaching is Biblical (taken in context), it should be embraced. If it is not, it should be rejected. God is more interested in whether a church is doing His will and obeying His Word than whether it can trace a line of succession back to Jesus’ apostles. Jesus was very concerned about abandoning the Word of God to follow the traditions of men (Mark 7:7). Traditions are not inherently invalid…there are some good and valuable traditions. Again, the issue must be whether a doctrine, practice, or tradition is Biblical. How then does the Roman Catholic Church compare with the teachings of the Word of God?
Salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by baptismal regeneration and is maintained through the Catholic sacraments unless a willful act of sin is committed that breaks the state of sanctifying grace. The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace which is received through simple faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), and that good works are the result of a change of the heart wrought in salvation (Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17) and the fruit of that new life in Christ (John 15).
Assurance of salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation cannot be guaranteed or assured. 1 John 5:13 states that the letter of 1 John was written for the purpose of assuring believers of the CERTAINTY of their salvation.
Good Works: The Roman Catholic Church states that Christians are saved by meritorious works (beginning with baptism) and that salvation is maintained by good works (receiving the sacraments, confession of sin to a priest, etc.) The Bible states that Christians are saved by grace through faith, totally apart from works (Titus 3:5; Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians 3:10-11; Romans 3:19-24).
Baptism: In the New Testament baptism is ALWAYS practiced AFTER saving faith in Christ. Baptism is not the means of salvation; it is faith in the Gospel that saves (1 Corinthians 1:14-18; Romans 10:13-17). The Roman Catholic Church teaches baptismal regeneration of infants, a practice never found in Scripture. The only possible hint of infant baptism in the Bible that the Roman Catholic Church can point to is that the whole household of the Philippian jailer was baptized in Acts 16:33. However, the context nowhere mentions infants. Acts 16:31 declares that salvation is by faith. Paul spoke to all of the household in verse 32, and the whole household believed (verse 34). This passage only supports the baptism of those who have already believed, not of infants.
Prayer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches Catholics to not only pray to God, but also to petition Mary and the saints for their prayers. Contrary to this, we are taught in Scripture to only pray to God (Matthew 6:9; Luke 18:1-7).
Priesthood: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is a distinction between the clergy and the “lay people,” whereas the New Testament teaches the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9).
Sacraments: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that a believer is infused with grace upon reception of the sacraments. Such teaching is nowhere found in Scripture.
Confession: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that unless a believer is hindered, the only way to receive the forgiveness of sins is by confessing them to a priest. Contrary to this, Scripture teaches that confession of sins is to be made to God (1 John 1:9).
Mary: The Roman Catholic Church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual virgin, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic Church have any basis in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man is not only extra-biblical (found only outside of Scripture), but is also unbiblical (contrary to Scripture). Acts 4:12 declares that Jesus is the only redeemer. 1 Timothy 2:5 proclaims that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.
Many other examples could be given. These issues alone clearly identify the Catholic Church as being unbiblical. Every Christian denomination has traditions and practices that are not explicitly based on Scripture. That is why Scripture must be the standard of Christian faith and practice. The Word of God is always true and reliable. The same cannot be said of church tradition. Our guideline is to be: “What does Scripture say?” (Romans 4:3; Galatians 4:30; Acts 17:11). 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”
Recommended Resource: Reasoning from the Scriptures with Catholics by Ron Rhodes.
2007-09-14 08:24:24
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answered by Freedom 7
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History,not scripture... the roman cult did not even start untill 300 yrs after The Church was commissioned by Jesus The Christ....
Scripture... there is only One Church... and Jesus The Christ is The Head
my proof..... God's Word and Promise to me in the instant of my Salvation... That is all I need.
The Salvation Message(Which the Roman cult is forbiden to hear)... All who come to God in The Way He prescribes will receive His free gift of Salvaiton. Those become part of The Body of The Church of which Jesus The Christ is The Head. Those are the ones of The True Christian Faith. Only those of The Church will enter Heaven
2007-09-14 07:52:04
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answered by ? 5
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Using the Bible to support a contradiction in Roman doctrine is problematic since the Roman Church is more ruled by the Edicts of Popes and the Catechism than by Scripture. That puts them on the fringe of Christianity, not a Christian organisation.
Rome bases its papal supremacy on Matthew16:18. Here Christ calls Peter by the name Rock on which Christ is apparently going to build his church. The Greek in this verse calls Peter 'Petros' but uses a slightly different word for the rock (petra) on which the church is to be built. Rome argues that 'Petros' is the masculine form of the feminine noun 'petra' and therefore means the same thing - Peter is that rock.
However, closer examination of all relevant texts in Syriac, Aramaic and Greek, showing the usage of these words, indicates that the correct understanding of this verse is : “You are 'Petros' (a movable stone) and upon this 'petra' (a large massive rock) I will build my church".
The Church of Rome bases itself on a misinterpretation of Scripture and a falsely reconstructed Aramaic/Syriac text, ignoring the distinctions in the Aramaic language.
In addition, how could Peter be the first Pope? He had a wife (Matthew 8:14; '... when Jesus came into Peter’s house, he saw Peter’s mother-in-law lying in bed with a fever)
2007-09-14 07:54:47
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answered by cheir 7
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The authentic Catholic church can no more teach or practice in error than Jesus could.
It's the people who govern the church, plus many who belong to it, that the protestants initially had problems with.
Non-Catholics claim to be saved by faith alone, yet they don't seem to have enough faith to take Jesus at his word, when he personally founded, authorized, empowered, and eternally guaranteed only one church ... the Catholic church ... which remains one, holy, universal, and apostolic, simply because God keeps it that way ... in spite of the rampant corruption that exists, both within the church, and without.
Since God personally provides the Catholic church's authority, and God also acts as the church's CEO and constant arbiter of all divine truth, Catholics don't need to prove everything from scripture.
Protestants probably wouldn't accept it anyway ... unless Jesus came back and proved it to them ... which he will certainly do some day.
2007-09-14 08:07:21
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus in the scriptures taught us how to pray.
We pray to the Father through Jesus.
Why do people pray to Mary?
Paul said that in the last days they would forbid to marry.
God allows marriage.
Why does the Catholic Church say that a priest can not marry?
The use of images in worship.
The Bible says you must not worship images.
The Bible says images have ears but can not hear, they have eyes but can not see...
Why do you bow down before lifeless images?
John went to bow down before an Angel in Revelation and the Angel told him NO DO NOT DO THAT.
This was God's Angel and this was wrong because we should only bow to God.
Why do you bow before a man, the Pope?
2007-09-14 07:47:49
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answered by Jason W 4
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While Scripture is evidence enough for the marks of Christ's Church, we can see in the writings of Ignatius -- written in the first century, within 67 years of Christ's resurrection, by a close friend and appointee of the Apostle Peter and friend of Polycarp -- that the early Church had a very Catholic interpretation of Scripture:
the Church was Divinely established as a visible society, the salvation of souls is its end, and those who separate themselves from it cut themselves off from God (Epistle to the Philadelphians)
the hierarchy of the Church was instituted by Christ (Epistles to the Philadelphians and the Ephesians)
the threefold character of the hierarchy (Epistle to the Magnesians)
the order of the episcopacy superior by Divine authority to that of the priesthood (Epistles to the Magnesians, Smyraenians, and the Trallians)
the importance of unity of the Church (Epistles to the Trallians, Philadelphians, and the Magnesians)
emphasis on the holiness of the Church (Epistles to the Smyraeans, Ephesians, Magnesians, Trallians, and Romans)
the catholicity of the Church (Letter to the Smyraeans)
the infallibility of the Church (Epistles to the Philadelphians and the Ephesians)
the doctrine of the Eucharist -- i.e., belief in Transsubstantiation or the Real Presence of Christ in Communion (Epistle to the Smyraeans)
the Incarnation (Epistle to the Ephesians)
the supernatural virtue of virgnity (Epistle to Polycarp)
the religious character of matrimony (Epistle to Polycarp)
the value of united prayer (Epistle to the Ephesians)
the primacy of the Chair of Peter (Epistle to the Romans, introduction)
a dencouncing of the (later Protestant) doctrine of private judgement in matters of religion (Epistle to the Philadelphians)1
I challenge Protestants to plunge themselves into early Church history! Read the writings of St. Ignatius of Antioch, Clement of Rome, Cyril of Jerusalem, Irenaeus, Polycarp, St. Augustine, etc... They are rich with Catholic doctrine -- and the earliest evidence we have for what the Church was like in its earliest days!
2007-09-14 07:58:42
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answered by cashelmara 7
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There is so much man made doctrine (paganism) in their religion that it has hidden the truth. But there is hope!. Many Trinitarians are coming to the revelation of Who God is and are following what is written in the Bible. Many are being rebaptized by immersion in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins and receivu=ing the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues!
2007-09-14 07:51:06
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answered by michael m 5
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Exodus 20:4 and 20:5
Exodus 20:4 ...“You shall not make for yourself a carved image-any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;"
Exodus 20:5 "you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,"
Those two verses speak by themselves!!..........
2007-09-14 07:46:29
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answered by Millie 7
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Respectfully with some of the catholic church dogmas such as the Pope and hierarchy, holding Mary as a mediator between man and God, appointments of people called saints as superstitious carms, infant baptism, abstinance for a priest and nun just do not have Biblical proof to back these beleifs up. It is not a matter of trying to disprove the catholic beliefs but it is more of a matter of the catholics trying to justify these things. The book of Hebrews clearly teaches that Jesus Christ is the only mediator we need to confess our sins to and that the earthly priesthood is abolished. I am my own priest and I confess my sins to no man on earth. I go straight to Jesus Christ.
2007-09-14 07:45:00
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answered by Anonymous
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