“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.
"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB) Very clear... the OT will be binding FOREVER.
Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10)
“...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35
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2007-09-14
05:30:12
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Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)
Let me see the rationalizations please. You will no doubt come up with many. Know at the core of your being that the OT is to be followed, which in turn makes the entire Bible a gory, hateful story of a baby-tantrum God with a lot of things on his mind that were not in the human beings interest...
2007-09-14
05:32:39 ·
update #1
Midnight Crier is a great example of the loving Christian, wouldn't you agree? Look how he targets me instead of the question.... what a hypocrite.
2007-09-14
05:59:28 ·
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The way I see it, Jesus wasn't criticizing the Jews for not killing their disobedient children, he was criticizing them for claiming to follow the law but not following all of it.
The Old Testament doesn't reveal God as hateful or childish...it reveals US as hateful and childish. The message of the OT is pretty clear to those who want to see it. God started VERY simple...don't eat this apple...humans disobey so he puts us on earth and the law becomes a little more complex. Whine, whine, whine...but we don't know what you want. Love me and love each other...and of the first two people born on earth, one murders the other! Whine, whine, whine, am I my brother's keeper, we still don't understand. God gives us more laws...whine whine whine, we don't understand...give us kings to legitimize our laws...people still don't obey...whine, whine, whine, we don't understand...give us judges to hand out punishments to force everyone to obey the law....whine, whine, whine...those punishments are too harsh and people still can't obey.
Okay, let's try this...I'll come to earth and sacrifice myself for all your mistakes...I'll take the punishment...accept me and allow my holy spirit to live in your and you will find it easy to obey my laws. Love me and love one another...back to the beginning...whine, whine, whine, we don't understand, does that still mean we have to follow the old laws?
NOTHING about the New Testament invalidates the old laws...quite the reverse, it acknowledges that obedience to those laws is required if we are to share an existence with God. ...and that we simply don't have the ability to obey all of them without his help...that all the punishments in the world (e.g., "kill disobedient kids") won't lead to obedience to God.
The story is simple...God wanted us to be with him...to live the way he intended us to live...over and over, we insisted that he needed to tell us what to do so we could reach him on our own...he had to choose a special people to prove to us, his whiny children, that all the laws in the world won't help us reach him...that the only way we could get back to him was if each of us relied on him completely and personally!
2007-09-14 05:58:31
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answered by KAL 7
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all scripture is for our edification. both Old and New
Testaments are needed. one can't understand the book
of Revelation without Daniel 6-12.
the Ten Commandments is our guideline and the rules
we are expected to follow. the book of Leviticus was the
laws Moshe/Moses added for Israel's enlightment.
we are to follow YESHUA'S teachings as HE also followed
the laws of the Jews. including Shabbat being Saturday!
the Catholic Church changed it to Sunday, not YESHUA.
2007-09-14 13:53:15
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answered by Judy E. T 4
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I think its okay to separate the "Law" from the Old Testament. Jesus didn't say God's destroying of other nations was the Law, the Law is the Law. I'm probably not making sense, but in my head its clear as crystal.
2007-09-14 12:40:22
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answered by hanknowaff 3
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The bible and the "laws" and scriptures are like a picadilly cafeteria... or a self-serve buffet (for those who do not know what picadilly cafeteria is).... for christians....... they walk down the buffet and choose what they want and pass by what they do not like.
Oooh, the 10 commandments look yummy...... the burnt sacrifices to god and washing with animal blood doesnt' look too appealing..... i'll pass that by..... Oooh but the "god hates gays" is looking delicious today!!!
2007-09-14 13:08:04
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answered by DaveFrehley 3
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We are still under God's moral law, the 10 commandments. Moses' law of civil/ceremonial duties for ancient Israel no longer apply to us. Through Christ's passion, death, and ressurection, we are empowered by the Holy Spirit to fullfill the law by his grace. Jesus came to change our hearts, so we have no desire to break the 10 commandments. Such as, If I don't desire to commit adultry then that law doesn't apply to me anymore by God's grace! God bless!
2007-09-14 12:37:46
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answered by Anonymous
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Now, how about these. Bear in mind, the Old Testament is to be preserved, which is what Matthew 5:18-19 is talking about. However, we do not have to follow the commandments of the Old Testament. As it is with "last will and testament" today, there is only one in effect at a time as the verse below point out. The other verses that you are referring to point out the fact that God will preserve His Word, both the Old Testament and New but do not point to the fact that we have to follow the commandments of both. Other verses, as seen below, address that issue.
The Ten Commandments were given to the nation of Israel at Mt. Sinai after they left Egyptian slavery (Deuteronomy 4:13; 9:9,10). Moses said: "The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive" (Deuteronomy 5:2,3). This was a new law God had given. It had not been given to their ancestors. It was given only to the children of Israel!
"Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah - not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt” (Jeremiah 31:31,32).
"also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second" (Hebrews 8:6-13).
"In that He says, 'A new covenant,' He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away" (Hebrews 8:13). "For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, for the law made nothing perfect..." (Hebrews 7:18,19).
"Then He said, 'Behold, I have come to do Your will, 0 God.' He takes away the first that He may establish the second" (Hebrews 10:9).
"For the priesthood being changed, of necessity, there is also a change of the law" (Hebrews 7:12).
"Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements (the Law of Moses) that was against us, which was contrary to us, And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross" (Colossians 2:14).
"Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor" (Galatians 3:24, 25).
"And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives" (Hebrews 9:15-17).
“What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hands of a mediator" (Galatians 3:19).
The Seed is Christ (Galatians 3:16). The Old Law, which contained the Ten Commandments, was given to keep Israel under control until Christ came. Since Christ has come and has fulfilled this Law, He has taken it out of the way. He has given us a New Law (covenant or testament). We must go to this New Law to learn how God wants us to serve Him today!
2007-09-14 12:44:21
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answered by TG 4
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Romans 6:14-15 For sin shall not have dominion over you; for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then? shall we sin , because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
2007-09-14 12:40:12
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answered by ? 7
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You shouldn't read about things that may strain your intelligence. Christ instructs us to follow the commandments, not OT law. He came to fulfill the law, not to destroy it. We live under grace through Christ. That in no way means that Jesus agreed that parents should kill their children for any reason.
Sounds like you need to grow up.
2007-09-14 12:52:03
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answered by Anonymous
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Just because we are saved by grace doesn't mean we discard the law.
2007-09-14 12:38:03
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answered by Anonymous
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AMEN, Brother!
2007-09-14 12:37:59
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answered by Anonymous
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