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How did America and Britain expect to create peace in Iraq when they have killed so many innocent people so blanently like they are animals even animals dont deserve to die like this.

2007-09-14 04:06:53 · 51 answers · asked by HI 2 in Politics & Government Military

51 answers

You don't create peace with tanks and guns. You create a deterrence with tanks and guns.

We can't win in Iraq because

1. This is a civil war
2. You cannot "win" in the real sense against a terrorist because the nature of terrorism doesn't allow for this. Terrorists are not standing armies - they are one or two people willing to die.

2007-09-14 04:16:55 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

deen,
tanks and guns are used to deter war, that is how guns and tanks make peace. You make war too expensive for the enemy.

Now as to the second part of your question, the assumption was that the iraqi's would set aside their differences that have held them at war for a thousand years and would create a government where individual rights were for all men.

however this is not the way of the people there. They do not want peace as you understand it, they want domination of any one who is not of their sect.

as for the number of people that died over there, in combat anyway, the number was very low.

but I will explain something to you that I'm not sure you will understand, but I will hope that you do. In late Oct 03, while on the saudi boarder, the unit I was with had set up a traffic stop. Vehicles coming along were checked, contraband taken, those transporting were taken away and the vehicles they drove were stacked to be burned when the inspection was over.

about 11pm, a vehicle with a single headlight was coming along the road and when it saw the roadblock lights, (dim lights, like parking lights) the guy sped up and was running at high speed toward the bradley. The bradley used the coaxial gun to put a few rounds over the vehicle but it did not stop. It was then taken out by the coaxial gun about 100 meters from the traffic point.

The facts of the incident were taken to the tribal leader and a ruling was made by them, that the shooting was justifiable, and indeed an accident.

On the boarder of Iraq/saudi, people die. It is a zone of smugglers and traffickers in guns, slaves, drugs, terrorism and other things. The people there live with violence like you can not understand under saddam, or at the hands of their neighbors.

The few colateral damage kills we made were not noticed by anyone except the media who does not report the whole story.

If I told you things I saw, and other veterans did also, it would tear your heart from you.

that whole region lives under a veil of death, and for the first time, the people there have a glimmer of hope, though perhaps fading under the words of our elected officials

2007-09-14 04:23:48 · answer #2 · answered by magnetic_azimuth 6 · 2 0

Saddam was a dictator from hell. However there are many others in the world too - many don't have oil so we do nothing about them.

The invasion of Iraq revealed the unacceptable face of neo capitalism. Capitalism without a human face, capitalism that is prepared to sacrifice lives for profit. The Americans could have helped the infrastructure of Iraq by using Iraqis to rebuild Iraq. Instead every American company with political influence jumped in to garner massive profits for shoddy work. Hosptial theatres with ant infestation, dangerous rebuilding of public buildings. All the money that was poured into Iraq made its way back into American pockets and the peace was ruined by unadulterated greed.

Capitalism ain't a dirty word - until you look at the lengths the current philosophers were prepared to go in wrecking Iraq's peace. No meters on the oil pipeline - why - don't think this is just an oversight it is the new criminal face of inhumane capitalist divorced from any moral code.

Maybe peace could have been created immediately after the Iraqi forces disbanded. Now it is far far too late and we have used tanks and guns for far too long. We have egg all over our faces due to our own decrepit ineptitude.

But hey at least the Iraqis have democracy - although dead men can't vote at least they are dead and free.

2007-09-14 05:38:13 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

There is a saying that: "through destruction you make pace". The New World Order can`t come - Peace meaning - just like that - like you turn on and off a light switch. Peace, New World Order or just getting things back to "normal" - with no wars but still with people killing and robbing on the streets - can only be done step by step.

The sad part is to make Peace, to make The New World Order, many inocents die. But the Iraq War is not for Peace, is not only for "terrorists" but it is for money (petrol).

Do you know that the Nuclear Bomb was constructed for Peace? -- hope you do know.

2007-09-15 10:16:41 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

OK, now, of course they killed a lot of people. What about the insurgents and Iraqis and the Afghans that killed our troops, journalists (Daniel Pearl) and a lot of others? What about the 3 soldiers from our Army that were tortured and killed in January 2006? Creating peace is sometimes done with force because our enemies know no other way. You need to do more research before you open your mouth and/or use your computer to ask such a question! All is fair in love and war! And this is WAR!

2007-09-14 04:14:27 · answer #5 · answered by Mary W 4 · 2 0

By Blowing the sh it out of the bad guy. Peace will come, it will take time. People expect all these miraculous things to happen over night. How long does it take to pass a peice of legislation in the UK. A year, 2, 5, 10. That's about right. How about the states, 5 years, 10, some things they have been arguing about for 15 years. But we expect the Iraqies, a fledgling democracy, to pass legislation in days. Sort out their entire gov't in what....a year. All this admist secretarian violence, assasination attempts of gov't officials, ethnic cleansing, IED's. Come on, be realistic, give them a break.

2007-09-14 04:27:37 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Peace is not free, it doesn't just happen out of the clear blue. Peace is purchased at the cost of human life. Peace is brought through superior fire power.

Innocent people die in war because cowardly people elect to hide among them. If your fellow countryman or Arab fires at me while hiding behind you then I'm not going to stand there and allow myself to be killed for your sake. If you lack the basic intelligence to get out of the line of fire then you are not innocent, you are stupid!

The Iraqi people are getting themselves out of the live of fire and pointing out to the Americans where the enemy is hiding in great numbers. That is how the Iraq people are purchasing peace!

2007-09-14 04:29:46 · answer #7 · answered by oscarsix5 5 · 1 0

Going into Iraq was a big mistake. Saddam was certainly no good but, he wasn't a massive threat. I find the explanation of "bad intelligence" questionable. Even if that was the case, who is accountable for that fumble, and who is accountable for the enormous losses of innocent Iraqi lives that resulted?

We can not blame the troops for what happened here. They were following orders they believed righteous. As far as those troops who stepped over the line, they were held accountable. I'm just wondering if George Bush will ever be accountable, along with those who supplied the faulty intelligence.

2007-09-14 04:19:30 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

I think the fundamental error was the assumption that under every dictatorship is a proto-democracy just waiting to get out. The US in particular seemed to genuinely think that you just remove the big bad guy at the top and everyone will just start opening McDonald's and turn into a mini-USA! They seemed surprised to find that with Saddam gone they just had an unholy mess, with the same troops and forces that had done an excellent job militarily really struggling to fill the role of police/ peace keepers!

2007-09-14 04:13:37 · answer #9 · answered by Avondrow 7 · 3 1

Put the tanks and guns in museum.
Live n let others live.
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By the way, where are the WMDs in Iraq?? just curious i thought nobody found them.
And by the way, who the hell are America and Britain to bring peace in the world?? Isn't there is something called diplomacy, United Nations etc.

They bombed many countries without permissions like Afghanistan, Iraq. Think of it, some day they come and announce that your country *might* posses WMD and they are working on "preemptive strikes" policy, what will u do??
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Plz. see no offence(offense) meant.

2007-09-14 04:15:55 · answer #10 · answered by Pacificblue 2 · 1 2

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