Question for everyone......................................?

Question

Do you support or condemn this verse?

Leviticus 20:13 "And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

No Christian would say it is okay to kill gay people now, but did it use to be okay to do it?

This is supposedly a direct quote from God.

If you read the first verse of Chapter 20, it says that the Lord spoke unto Moses and it proceeds to lay out certain guidelines. If you read every single verse up to 13, you can see that every verse up to this was supposed to have come directly from God.

Did God change his standards after Jesus? I am curious to hear what your thoughts are. I am not trying to be rude. I believe that questioning your beliefs is a healthy thing and I wanted to hear your thoughts.

Thank you for your answers.

Please tell me if you support the verse or condemn it and tell me your religious beliefs.

Thank you.

Answer 1

I do believe there is much to learn from the bible and it is as close as we can get to Gods words. The only thing that causes me pause with the bible is all the Human intervention there has been with it through the years.

Moses was tiring to control the people of Israel by invoking what he said was Gods will. Moses was far from perfect, he was only human. There is no way for us to really know for sure if Moses had added things that weren't from God.

When you read the writings in the Bible sometimes Gods personality seems to change. Even in the new testament there are 4 versions of Jesus' life, written by men that lived with Jesus at the same time. When the Bible was canonized there were a lot of things left out. Some of these writings can be found in the Orthodox Bible. When the bible was transcribed by hand from Hebrew, Latin, Greek and Roman there were mistakes made in interpretation. One word can change the meaning of the whole sentence!

So for myself I keep it simple. I am only responsible for Sins I commit. I am not to Judge others!

John 8:
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

Matthew
Chapter 7
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?

10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?

11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

John
Chapter 3
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


And Paul said:
1 Corinthians
Chapter 6
1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.

7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?

8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.

14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's

Answer 2

I would advise you to read the new testament do you remember the ten commandments Jesus said '' Don't think i have come to do away with the law and prophets. I did not come to do away with them but give them full meaning'' Mathew 5:17, I would advise you to not dwell so much into the literary meaning of the word of God, it has more deeper and spiritual meaning than what you see and read. As long as humanity exist and do not seek deeper understanding of God we shall all be destroyed. God never changed any law but brought meaning to people through Jesus Christ and if you read verse 22 of chapter 20 Leviticus you will realize that it says obey my laws and teachings or else the land i am giving you will become sick of you and throw you out" you will realise that there is no how the land its self can throw you out, just as much as it does not mean that people shall be stoned to death for wrong doings.
What God is saying is that if you disobey him he will not listen to you. Then not listening to you means God will neglect you and by so doing your life will be miserable and the environment you live in will not be condusive which will in the end automatically lead to your death because of your sins. The good thing is that God has warned us about all this and we choose to ignore his teachings.

Answer 3

God is very forgiving espessialy after he came to earth in flesh. "I shall make my word flesh" The Entire Law is the guide line for man kind and all sin = Death/Punnishment/Damnation acording to his Law God Hates sin, yet God also say and knows and we know that no one can Not break the Law, I myself probaly break at least 5 of Gods laws every day. That is way god required a sacrifice for our sin, because God needs a life for a life and eye for an eye. The sacrifice of animals was seremonial/ symbolic and important for ones soul. If you read Psalms David writes of how he knows that all the sacrificing dosen't truely take away sin yet God is Mercyfull, an loving to those who love him and fallow his law to the best of human abilites. That is why God Came down to earth in the flesh and Died for all man kind for no man but god could take appon this task but the lord Yeshua(jesus) Read Romans, and Hebrews.

Here are some OT passages conferming Jesus Christ as Messiah.

Genesis 3:15 Genesis 49:10-12

Deuteronomy 18:18-19 Psalm 22

Psalm 118:21-29 Isaiah 7:10-16

Isaiah 9:1-7 Isaiah 28:16-22

Isaiah 52:13-15 Isaiah 53

Micah 5:2-5

Zechariah 12:10-14 Zechariah 13


Good night/mornning

Answer 4

It depends on which of the over 50 translations of the Bible in English you are quoting from.They all have inaccuracies and are not worth worrying about today. All Christians are asked by God to love every person he ever created with unconditional love. Does that seem like an impossible task ?
Well if you love God you love everybody.If you don't love everybody you don't love God. Simple as that.This is all that matters .People are wasting time reading the Bible instead of trying to do what God would like them to do.Time is running out ,there are souls to be saved.

EDIT..I wonder which Christians want to "cure" or get rid of all gay people off the Planet ? My religion wants to do the opposite !

Answer 5

I have been reading the Bible and a lot of the stories in it are just like what goes on today, it is like history repeating itself. I have come across, infidelity, prostitution, stealing, murder, judging, churches being ruined, etc.... Now I have not been reading very long, so I could still come across it, but I have never heard of anyone being gay or lesbian in the Bible. That doesn't mean it's not in there, but I haven't saw it. My point is Jesus came to take away our sins, by that all we have to do is ask forgiveness from them and get to know God more in depth through the Holy Spirit. You can be gay and still have a relationship with God, this is my opinion. Do you really think God cares about all these small things? If he can forgive murderer's, I think he can forgive someone for being gay! You are the one that has no peace about this, read your Bible, pray, and learn about him, the more we take the time for him, the stronger he helps us. Goodluck!

Answer 6

There are a lot of things in the old testament that are very much interesting. And God did lay down the laws there that is why we believe it's a sin to be homosexual. But you are right that God did change his mind about things. He used to want sacrifices from us burnt offerings and such. This was until He sent His only begotten son to earth to live and die for us. God knew we could never be good enough because of our sin nature. So He gave us Jesus as the final sacrifice for us that we could go through Jesus and be saved from our sin nature. the things in the old testament still hold true a sin is a sin. But atonement for them we take through Jesus Christ. God is Awesome. I hope this helped.
This is also why you will hear people talk about being a New Testament Christian

Answer 7

If you'd stop cherry picking certain verses here and there and start studying the entire Bible, questions like this would have clear answers.

God has a holy and righteous side. That is depicted in the OLD Testament.

He also has a merciful and gracious side. That is depicted in the NEW Testament.

God established the OT Law for the HEBREWS to teach them a lesson in obedience.

God REPLACED the OT Law with the grace of His Son Jesus in the NT.

If that makes any sense at all, then pick up the Bible FOR THE REST OF THE STORY.

Answer 8

Everyone has one of a kind and person critiques, so for each opinion there's a minimum of one million individual on this planet with the reverse opinion. Therefore, it's inconceivable for every body to be improper. Everyone is improper at a few factor of their existence even though, if thats what you intended. You're being very indistinct. If you are simply seeking to sound profound then I advocate you're employed on that a few extra.

Answer 9

According to the old testament people can judge other people who disobeyed God's law. After Jesus, the judgment will be done only by Jesus at the end of the world, so no one can judge other in the Godly aspects. Moreover, Jesus Christ is a forgiving God and help those who cannot keep the commandments and deliver from sin in a step by step manner when that person surrender to HIM fully.

Answer 10

Oh dude...you have to put things in perspective. In context. Things were WAAAAY different when this was written. This was the culture. People were put to death for morality crimes back then.

(questions are GOOD! I am glad you are asking these things. Information and intellectual evolution is imparative!!!! Ignorance bad! hehe).

Stick to the New Testament because the Old Testament was like....humankind's childhood. Back then (as the Bible says the wages of sin is death) people had to kill an animal as a sacrifice to God for their sins...because if something else did not die for the sins they commited, that would mean they would have to. But then Jesus came and died as the ultimate sacrifice so we don't have to do that stuff anymore... he did it to set us free from all that.

He said NOW to remember two things: Love God with all your heart and Love others as yourself. That's all we have to worry about now. God takes care of the rest. Everything we do we just have to weigh it against those two things.

he didn't say love only those who believe like you as yourself, he said love others...all others, as if they are yourself.

So whether being gay is a moral issue or not, we are all to love one another and not judge each other. That's not our job. Our job is only to love now. Thank GOD because the old ways were brutal!!!!!


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*shrieking in horror* from reading the above post...

"God did change his mind..."

YIKES!!!!! NO!!! God never changes! He did not change his mind. The wages of sin are STILL death...only we don't have to kill the animal anymore...he made it easy for us. Jesus died as that sacrifice so we don't have to do that anymore. all we have to do is believe now. That is not a change of mind, that is a change of circumstance!!!!!!

Answer 11

well without trying to sound too pro or anti anything, it's always safe to assume you should do your best to INTERPRET texts as they applied back then and DECIDE if they apply to you or others now. A lot of people said/wrote things thousands of years ago which may or may not be able to be directly correlated to your life or others lives today.

if in doubt, think it over and use ya head.

;0P