I had my GSD pair in a kennel together today for the first time durring this heat. Once they tied/ seperated, I had to go out of town on an errand. Since they grew up together and got along well I left them in the same Kennel. about 5-6hrs later I cam home to my female outside of the kennel (6ft tall, so how she got out is still in question,) in a field nearby. I spoke to neighbors, asking if they had noticed any males near her etc. None had, but I know of a couple males not far away who can get out of their yards. How likely is it that another male could have gotten her pregnant? I do not know if they tied again, but I do know they were together for just under 30min, and she for sure was in the kennel for an hour after. Also if all you recommend is for me to fix my dogs etc., this isn't going to happen, so despite it being a public forum, you're wasting your time if this is all you have to say.
2007-09-13 16:16:16 · 13 answers · asked by ~*Wanted*~ 3 in Pets ➔ Dogs
Actaully my kennels all have tops on them, and yes, I also have my pups new owners sign a contract to fix their pups within 6 months of age with a voucher that has been pre-paid in their purchse price, or if they would like to keep thier pup intact they have to pay several hundred more, which is easy to say that majority of them would rather fix their pups. Not only that but my kennels also have a 3ft tall extra small link fencing surrounding the bottom. I will not reduce my price of my pups if they are purebred, it would be pointless, if they are mixed then they will be sold with a voucher for a pre-paid spay/neuter. Thankfully there are no dogs anywhere within 10 miles that I know of for sure that are GSDs, or even close to the breed. And believe me, although the extra income is nice, $$$ is not the most important thing in me breeding my dogs. All my pups are healthy, well socialized, and groomed daily.
2007-09-13 17:06:26 · update #1
Our kennel is half inclosed to an indoor setting. I should have let be known that I do not believe she got out, so much as someone let her out. Some neighbors take too much interest in my dogs, especially one who is moving and would love to have some of my dogs without paying.
2007-09-13 17:11:53 · update #2
One last thing, I understand that she can tie with other males, what I am asking how likely is it that after about 2 hours from the beginning of mating (could have been more then 2 hours,) is it that another males sperm if mated will fertalize ahead of my male?
2007-09-13 17:16:10 · update #3
How likely is it? VERY. She could have mated MULTIPLE times with who knows how many other males, in the 5 or 6 hours you were gone. The only thing you can do now is PRAY. I would also take her to the vet and have a vaginal culture done asap. If she did mate with (?) many males she may have contracted an infection. If not treated with antibiotics during pregnancy; it could result in puppy absorption and/or critically ill pups when they are born.
After you take care of your girl...I would then turn my attention to the "escape problem". You don't want a repeat of this mess. If you do think someone let her out...I would be at Walmart tommorrow morning buying padlocks for all the gaits. Good luck.
2007-09-13 18:05:17 · answer #1 · answered by bully4me 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Highly likely. Dogs become escape artists when it comes to breeding.
Generally, responsible breeders never allow an in season b*tch out of their eyesight unless she's confined.
If you're registering them through AKC you can do DNA tests on each puppy to determine their parentage for about $40 per puppy plus a big additional fee if its a two-sire registerable breeding (which yours wouldn't be as you wouldn't know the second sire) but you still could get the pups from your sire registered. Many rare breeds do dual-sired breedings to increase the gene-pool without making the ***** have multiple litters.
2007-09-14 00:04:55 · answer #2 · answered by animal_artwork 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
You have to remember that when a female dog is in heat every and any dog in the neighborhood and smell that and that attracts them. It would not surprise me if one of those other male dogs got to her. I would go to their owners and ask if their dogs got out today during the time that you were gone. If she is pregnant, I would tell the people that you sell the puppies to that you are un-sure of the father (do not lie) and (if you do this often(breeder)) price the puppies at about half what you normally do, or less depending on your normal charge. I say this because you can not be sure if the puppies are pure bred, if they aren't they aren't worth squat and eventually one of the new owners is going to get very mad. Good luck!
2007-09-13 23:26:10 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 6⤊ 0⤋
Well, that's definitely a tough question. It's a possibility that another male could have mated with her, but if your neighbors didn't see any males around her then I wouldn;t worry too much. 6ft tall is definitely tall, but then again some dogs can jump like no other and she probably left because the male wouldn't leave her alone- so maybe try and not leave them in the kennel for too long unless you can see them. Also, if she did leave because the male wouldn't stop bothering her, I doubt she let another male mate with her since she had just mated.
2007-09-13 23:24:31 · answer #4 · answered by Madison 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
hey at least you aren't saying they "made love" like some other idiot on here did earlier...
another male is likely and you cannot tell until the litter is born - or you can talk to a vet about aborting this litter and starting again next heat cycle
in the mean time get a top for your kennel...
2007-09-13 23:26:25 · answer #5 · answered by CF_ 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Chalk it up to experience and supervise your dogs better in the future. Unless you can psychically communicate with your dogs, you'll never know what happened. My bet is she got sick of the male's interest in her and climbed out to get some peace. Dogs can climb chain link pretty easily if they have a mind to. And yes they CAN and DO tie through the holes in fencing, so you should NEVER leave a female in heat outside unsupervised.
2007-09-13 23:22:35 · answer #6 · answered by lizzy 6 · 6⤊ 0⤋
The AKC is now doing DNA profiles on dogs because they have discovered that there can be more than one father per litter. I would suggest you look into this as she may now be pregnant by more than one dog. Get the profile on your dogs and when the puppies are born test them so that you know which puppies are from your dog. Then spay and neuter the rest.... If you dont want to spay your dog at least put her puppies on limited registration or spay/neuter them.
2007-09-13 23:26:04 · answer #7 · answered by Jordie0587 *Diesel's Momma* 5 · 3⤊ 1⤋
i would say its very likely that another dog could have tied with her. i was at my friends house and i saw his chihuahuas tied together so i freaked out and i had brought my male over there. so i ran downstairs to tell my friend what was happening and he said it was no big deal. as i came up the stairs literally a minute later and my male was tied with her. it only took a second.
2007-09-13 23:26:04 · answer #8 · answered by ladyfang 2 · 4⤊ 0⤋
yes, she could have bred with more than one dog. you can get a litter from two fathers or more.
a stray could have bred her THRU the chainlink too.
GSD's climb so I guess your kennel is not covered over
yep, that would be typical byb behavior. throw two dogs together & just let 'em do their thing! no I'm sure you won't neuter them - the $$ is to important
2007-09-13 23:26:02 · answer #9 · answered by sadiejane 5 · 7⤊ 2⤋
If she was loose and in heat, it is quite possible that she mated with another dog.
2007-09-13 23:22:40 · answer #10 · answered by daa 7 · 5⤊ 0⤋